Sandy: Good to hear from you again. I didn't find Elias Sutton on the 1880 census. Now, before anybody gets upset I know I hit the reply button and I know I am replying through the list. I am doing it for a reason. Sometimes when someone doesn't show up on a census, that has been transcribed to where we can read it faster, doesn't mean they were not there. As much care that is taken to catch everybody, sometimes they were missed. But most of the time it could just be a transcribing error. Anybody that has ever sat for hours reading a microfilm will understand this. For instance, One of Sandy's ancestors was Seaborn Eugene Camp, but on the transcribed census he is recorded as LEABORN KEMP. Now, we all know his name and who he married ( Almedia Maness - daughter of Rufus Maness ), but I couldn't find him on a regular search. I did find him as I was just stumbling through the Columbia Census. Also one of my ancestors, Dicey ( Maness ) Wilkerson was listed as a Wilson in 1870 on the actual census. The children's names and birthdates matched but the last name was wrong. There are many reasons for this that I will not go into all of them, but it happened. One reason for these mistakes is the roads were not as they are now and sometimes just a creek was an obstacle and the info was from a neighbor or grocery store operator. Just imagine Ike Godsey trying to name all of the Waltons and their birthdates. Anyway, the point is, if they are not found on the first try, Don't give up. Most of the fun is in the hunting and sharing information with others. James Peterson Texarkana, Ark. Descendant of Peterson, Grant, Wilkerson, and Maness families from Columbia County.