Do Not hit reply Respond to: NAME: Loren A. Thurman EMAIL: lthurman@megabits.net Clay Co. Ar Query Forum A new message, "THURMAN/TUCKER/MILLS/AUTREY Connection," was posted by Loren A. Thurman on Wed, 21 Apr 1999 --- NAME: Loren A. Thurman EMAIL: lthurman@megabits.net SURNAMES: Thurman, Tucker, Mills, Autrey DATE: Apr 21 1999 QRYTEXT: Looking for any connection to this Clay County family. HUSBAND Charles Albert THURMAN BORN: 1863 PLACE: ,,Indiana DIED: Abt 1940 PLACE: Leachville,,Arkansas MARR: 27 Nov 1892 PLACE: ,Greene,Arkansas has other marriage(s) Ardella Tucker, Marcell M. Graves ==================================================== WIFE Caldonia AUTRY BORN: Abt 1872 PLACE: ,,Arkansas DIED: Bef 1906 PLACE: FATHER: George Washington AUTRY Jr MOTHER: Sarah ==================================================== CHILDREN ==================================================== 1. NAME: Artie THURMAN ---- BORN: 1893 PLACE: M CHR.: PLACE: SPOUSE: Lucy CROFT MARR: 5 Dec 1914 PLACE: Walcott,Greene,Arkansas ---------------------------------------------------- 2. NAME: Alpha L THURMAN ---- BORN: 1897 PLACE: M CHR.: PLACE: ---------------------------------------------------- 3. NAME: Zella THURMAN ---- BORN: 1898 PLACE: M CHR.: PLACE: SPOUSE: Mamie KIRBY ---------------------------------------------------- 4. NAME: Mabel M THURMAN ---- BORN: 1900 PLACE: F CHR.: PLACE: SPOUSE: Marion SHEWMAKER MARR: 22 Dec 1917 PLACE: Paragould,Greene,Arkansas ==================================================== 5. NAME: Cecil A "Bates" THURMAN ---- BORN: 1904 PLACE: ,,Arkansas M CHR.: PLACE: SPOUSE: Anna CLARY MARR: 6 Oct 1928 PLACE: Peach Orchard,Clay,Arkansas ==================================================== NOTES ON THIS FAMILY HUSBAND - Charles Albert THURMAN-77&d@ Died in "Old Folks Home" at Leachville. Age of birth deduced from marriage records. Age of death based on Viola Campbell) Thurman's recollection. Middlename from David Thurman's SSN Application dated 26 Aug 1947. SSN form rec 16 May 97 from SS Administration. 1910 Census data from Clark Twp, Clay, AR, Sheet1A Line 10-17 reflects Indiana as place of birth, with Father born in Kentucky, Mother born in Virginia. Age 47 at time of this Census which was 15 Apr 1910. Copies of Marriage license to Ardella on file. First wife identified from 1920 census where son from first marriage, Cecil Thurman, was living with Uncle Will Autrey in Greene Co., Ar. Source: Lee & Betty Tucker lrtucker@tcac.net. Marriage license on file. 1920 census Mississippi Co., AR identifies with third wife's first name and state of birth. Other marriages: 6 Nov 1906 Ardella TUCKER 24 May 1915 Marcell M GRAVES WIFE - Caldonia AUTRY Identity deduced from 1920 Greene Co., Arkansas census that shows Cecil Thurman, Nephew, living with Will Autrey. Greene Co. Father born in IN and Mother born in AR. Marriage index for 1876-1988 shows C.A. Thurman married to Caldonia Autry in 1892. Notice different spellings of Autrey/Autry. Source: Marriage license for C.A. Thurman and Caldonia Autry. Source: 1880 Greene Co., Cache Twp AR Census provides parents and siblings. First name is Calidonia with an i in this census. CHILD 1 - Artie THURMAN Source: Lee & Betty Tucker Feb 99 - Marriage license on file. YOB extracted from this license which shows him to be 21 in Dec 1914 when they married. Security bond for marriage was Cephus Autrey. CHILD 2 - Alpha L THURMAN CHILD 3 - Zella THURMAN Source: 1910 Clay Co. AR Census listing as child in family of Charles A. Thurman and Ardella Tucker. Source: Petition of Appointment of Guardianship dtd 8 May 1917 by L.E. Autry for the award of the sum of $225.00 to each of the heirs of E.W. Autry. Award was granted on the same date. Copy on file. YOB extracted from this document. Source: Lee & Betty Tucker Feb 99 - Marriage license on file. Shows age to be 24 in 1919, Guardianship papers shows age to be 19 in 1917. CHILD 4 - Mabel M THURMAN Source: 1910 Clay Co. AR Census listing her as child in family of Charles A. Thurman and Ardella Tucker. Source: Petition of Appointment of Guardianship dtd 8 May 1917 by L.E. Autry for the award of the sum of $225.00 to each of the heirs of E.W. Autry. Award was granted on the same date. Copy on file. Source: Lee and Betty Tucker... Feb 99. Marriage license on file. BDate extracted from this document. YOB extracted from this document. CHILD 5 - Cecil A "Bates" THURMAN Believed to have taken name "Bates" from adoptive parents. Found in the 1920 Greene Co., AR census. Living with a Will Autrey who is head of household. Cecil is listed as a nephew at age 16. DOB of 1904 deduced from marriage certificate to Anna Clary with age 24 in 1928. However, age 33 in 1935 marriage to Mildred Burton. Source: 1910 Clay Co. AR Census listing her as child in family of Charles A. Thurman and Ardella Tucker. Source: Petition of Appointment of Guardianship dtd 8 May 1917 by L.E. Autry for the award of the sum of $225.00 to each of the heirs of E.W. Autry. Award was granted on the same date. Copy on file. Age 13 in 1917, so DOB is 1904. Other marriages: 5 Oct 1935 Mildred BURTON-7090 Abt 1941 Vennie-6333 Submitter: Loren A. Thurman 609 Hickory Hwy Devine, TX 78016 lthurman@megabits.net. This is an automatically-generated notice. If you wish to respond to this message, please post your response directly to the Clay Co. Ar Query Forum: <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ar/Clay> Thank you!