Hi Phillip, Would you mind explaining what I am looking at on the map? Specifically, I'm looking at the map for Gholson Popplewell... it says 20N - 26 West at the top of the map but I can't figure out which area of the map that covers..... Paulette Williams IBSSG I hear ethereal whispers, persuasive, soft and still,"Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will ?" > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:29:59 -0400 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ARCARROL] William J. Carr/John Carr > > > First go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~arcchs/maps/C.html and look for the Carrs listed for the general locations. > Then go to http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ and search for the Carrs in AR to find the documentation and details. > Have fun! > Regards, > Phillip > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Schneider > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 1:35 pm > Subject: [ARCARROL] William J. Carr/John Carr > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > I'm new to this list. I just recently discovered that > my 4th gr grandfather, John Carr, applied for a land > bounty from Carroll County, AR. He served in the > Cherokee Removal in the 1830s and that was the basis > for his land application. His first application was > made in Feb., 1853. His second application was made > in 1855. His second application was aided by Bradley > Bunch of Berryville. > > My question concerning this is, are there land records > in Carroll County from the 1850s? When I checked the > LDS microfilm catalog, I didn't see Carroll County > land records from the 1850s. > > Second question concerns William J. Carr. If anyone > out there is researching William Carr, does he have a > relation with John Carr? Here is why I ask this. My > 4th gr grandfather was probably born around 1800, in > South Carolina. He lived in Jackson County, AL from > about 1820 until 1852. William J. Carr was born in > 1806, in South Carolina. His wife was Mary Wright, > born in Alabama. Two of their children were born in > Alabama. I'm not sure of the location in Alabama. > William can be found in the 1850 and 60 censuses. He > also can be found in 1870 under the name Care. > > Here are a few other facts about the John Carr family. > John's wife was Nancy Taylor. When the family left > Alabama, they passed through southeast IL because my > third gr grandfather George W. Carr stayed there along > with his sister Nancy and brother in law John Abner > Spence. Initially, they lived in Stonefort, Saline > County, IL. John Carr, his wife Nancy, along with son > Elihu and daughter Bethany moved on to the MO/AR area. > Nancy and the two kids can be found in Stone County, > MO in 1860, 1870. Elihu can be found in Stone in > 1880. Strangely, John Carr can be found in Stonefort, > Saline County, IL in the 1860 census, living with > daughter Nancy and son in law John Abner Spence. > > I'd be glad to discuss this with other researchers out > there. I have other info I could provide. > > Robert Schneider > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us

>> My question concerning this is, are there land records >> in Carroll County from the 1850s? When I checked the >> LDS microfilm catalog, I didn't see Carroll County >> land records from the 1850s. The Carroll Co. court burned in the fall of 1869 and took all county records with it, however, some land records (such as homestead and bounty land) were actually federal land records and would have been in the federal land office, not the county courthouse. Federal land records held at the Federal Land offices usually do still exist. Also, many land owners had original land records in their possession (the land records at the courthouse are actually legal copies made from an orginal record), and these land owners took their records to the courthouse and refiled the legal record after the courthouse burned. The dates of filing would be after 1869, but contained in the record you can usually find the date and details of when and how the land owner came into posession of the property. Also, the first time after 1869 when legal title to the land transfered, whether it was sold or passed to the heirs in an estate, there had to be a record made at the county level to satisfy ownership proof. So the answer to the question are there Carroll Co. land records prior to the 1869 courthouse fire date is maybe. It is alway worth a look see in the records. Very often if you search forward in the county land records you can at least find who owned the land before the first sale of the property after 1869. Fleta Aday CCHS webmaster www.rootsweb.com/~arcchs