Cora, A few years ago, early in my AR research, I visited a cemetery where I had been informed some of my ancestors were buried. Walking through the cemetery I found a gravestone for a man, I believed was a relative and his wife. There were birthdates and photos of both, but no death date. A few days later I ws driving on one of the contry roads attempting to locate the land listed in the land patent records as having been homesteaded by my gg-grandfather about 1860. As I passed a man came out of a small farm building and the site of him took my breath away he was so much like my deceased grandfather. I drove on down the road and composed myself, the turned a round and the gentleman was about to cross the road. I stopped and talked with him. He and my grandfather are related. The key fact in this account is this is the man named on the gravestone I found in the cemetery. He and his wife bought their gravestone and placed it in the cemetery to reserve their gravesite. I l! ater notice a gravestone for the minister of the church the family attended, he is not yet deceased. It appears that unlike in most areas the graves lots are not sold. Genealogist from the community have walked through the cemeteries and recorded the names on the existing gravestones. My first visit to AR I found a great aunt and uncle listed in one of the publications done by the volunteers. I returned a few years later and could not find the graves. I eventually returned to the library, located the book and photocopied the page. When I returned to the cemetery with the page from the book and using the names on the gravestones in the area I was able to locate two stones lying on the ground and although I could not find the names. I believe these are the stones belonging to the graves of my great-aunt and her husband. I met one of their descendants and he planned to investigate to verify these are the correct graves and order a Civil War marker for his g-grandfather and purchase one for his wife. Many of the early graves were marked by a large rock. Many of those have been displaced by vandals, annimals, and weather. I suggest you might check with the genealogical organizations in the area to determine if the graves are listed in some of the early editions of the cemetery books. I am finding more and more information on line. It is probably a remote chance that you would find land records or a record of an estate that will provide the information you need, however I would try. We owe the dedicated members of the local societies a big THANK YOU for all the work they do to locate and publish records to make them more accessible to those of us living long distances from the areas where our ancestors lived and died. Jonelle ELLIS Russell -----Original Message----- >From: cora miller <[email protected]> >Sent: May 25, 2007 9:28 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ARCARROL] I need some help /look up > >thanks I have her death cert. aparently according to muskogee public >library /court house etc. She was widowed and living with her daughter in >1910. she died of "Brights" disease which is a kidney ailment (according to >funeral home records there was no obit published. >She died in 1916. I do have her death cert. >her husband I believe is buried next to her but I can only make out a '"w" >on stone but no dates. >their stil born daughter is on his other side she died in aug 1909 >No information on her either. >No death cer on file and ceme has limited records for thet time period. >We do not know which funeral home handeled her. >Muskogee s funny there is only one of about 40 cemeteries owned by city This >would be Greenhill cem and part of the cem is still owned by a Catholic >church St. Josephs >The remaining cemeteries some very large is a mystery as to owns them. >Irecently inquired as to who I speak if I need to buy a plot. >nobody could tell me. I asked about county and countyonly owns one "pauper" >cem. >It is not the one my family is in. >I am going to try to find out more about the daughter as well perhaps she >sold land in ark. >I am blind and am trying to do most of my stuff by internet. >thanks for help >cora miller >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cheri Mello" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:51 PM >Subject: Re: [ARCARROL] I need some help /look up > > >> You might try sending your message to the Newton List on Rootsweb. Also, >> check out www.wc.rootsweb.com. Someone there is researching your Wm, but >> he >> does not have a date of death either. Many states did not reach full >> compliance on the death certificates until the 19teens (or even later...NM >> didn't have a Vital Stats until 1920). This may be one reason you cannot >> find the death :( >> >> Also, I'd look into the wife and her death as much as I could. See if >> there >> was a funeral home or something associated with her burial. Does the >> cemetery in OK have any records of who's buried there? Get her obit. Get >> her will or settlement of estate....it may mention land in AR. And while >> you are checking her out you may run into your William. >> >> Good luck, >> Cheri Mello >> Torrance, CA >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/818 - Release Date: 5/25/2007 >> 12:32 PM >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These graves are marked but according to cem. book in library gen. dept. Grandpa is only of my family in that cem. not listed. Even the unmarked graves are in cem. book the land records are only indication and census as to where grandpa was originally living. I found him in 1890 Ga. 1900 ark and 1910 apparently deceased in Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [ARCARROL] I need some help /look up > Cora, > A few years ago, early in my AR research, I visited a cemetery where I had > been informed some of my ancestors were buried. Walking through the > cemetery I found a gravestone for a man, I believed was a relative and his > wife. There were birthdates and photos of both, but no death date. A few > days later I ws driving on one of the contry roads attempting to locate > the land listed in the land patent records as having been homesteaded by > my gg-grandfather about 1860. As I passed a man came out of a small farm > building and the site of him took my breath away he was so much like my > deceased grandfather. I drove on down the road and composed myself, the > turned a round and the gentleman was about to cross the road. I stopped > and talked with him. He and my grandfather are related. The key fact in > this account is this is the man named on the gravestone I found in the > cemetery. He and his wife bought their gravestone and placed it in the > cemetery to reserve their gravesite. I l! > ater notice a gravestone for the minister of the church the family > attended, he is not yet deceased. > > It appears that unlike in most areas the graves lots are not sold. > Genealogist from the community have walked through the cemeteries and > recorded the names on the existing gravestones. My first visit to AR I > found a great aunt and uncle listed in one of the publications done by the > volunteers. I returned a few years later and could not find the graves. > I eventually returned to the library, located the book and photocopied the > page. When I returned to the cemetery with the page from the book and > using the names on the gravestones in the area I was able to locate two > stones lying on the ground and although I could not find the names. I > believe these are the stones belonging to the graves of my great-aunt and > her husband. I met one of their descendants and he planned to investigate > to verify these are the correct graves and order a Civil War marker for > his g-grandfather and purchase one for his wife. > > Many of the early graves were marked by a large rock. Many of those have > been displaced by vandals, annimals, and weather. I suggest you might > check with the genealogical organizations in the area to determine if the > graves are listed in some of the early editions of the cemetery books. > > I am finding more and more information on line. It is probably a remote > chance that you would find land records or a record of an estate that will > provide the information you need, however I would try. > > We owe the dedicated members of the local societies a big THANK YOU for > all the work they do to locate and publish records to make them more > accessible to those of us living long distances from the areas where our > ancestors lived and died. > > > Jonelle ELLIS Russell > > -----Original Message----- >>From: cora miller <[email protected]> >>Sent: May 25, 2007 9:28 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [ARCARROL] I need some help /look up >> >>thanks I have her death cert. aparently according to muskogee public >>library /court house etc. She was widowed and living with her daughter in >>1910. she died of "Brights" disease which is a kidney ailment (according >>to >>funeral home records there was no obit published. >>She died in 1916. I do have her death cert. >>her husband I believe is buried next to her but I can only make out a '"w" >>on stone but no dates. >>their stil born daughter is on his other side she died in aug 1909 >>No information on her either. >>No death cer on file and ceme has limited records for thet time period. >>We do not know which funeral home handeled her. >>Muskogee s funny there is only one of about 40 cemeteries owned by city >>This >>would be Greenhill cem and part of the cem is still owned by a Catholic >>church St. Josephs >>The remaining cemeteries some very large is a mystery as to owns them. >>Irecently inquired as to who I speak if I need to buy a plot. >>nobody could tell me. I asked about county and countyonly owns one >>"pauper" >>cem. >>It is not the one my family is in. >>I am going to try to find out more about the daughter as well perhaps she >>sold land in ark. >>I am blind and am trying to do most of my stuff by internet. >>thanks for help >>cora miller >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Cheri Mello" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:51 PM >>Subject: Re: [ARCARROL] I need some help /look up >> >> >>> You might try sending your message to the Newton List on Rootsweb. >>> Also, >>> check out www.wc.rootsweb.com. Someone there is researching your Wm, >>> but >>> he >>> does not have a date of death either. Many states did not reach full >>> compliance on the death certificates until the 19teens (or even >>> later...NM >>> didn't have a Vital Stats until 1920). This may be one reason you >>> cannot >>> find the death :( >>> >>> Also, I'd look into the wife and her death as much as I could. See if >>> there >>> was a funeral home or something associated with her burial. Does the >>> cemetery in OK have any records of who's buried there? Get her obit. >>> Get >>> her will or settlement of estate....it may mention land in AR. And >>> while >>> you are checking her out you may run into your William. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> Cheri Mello >>> Torrance, CA >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/818 - Release Date: 5/25/2007 >>> 12:32 PM >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/818 - Release Date: 5/25/2007 > 12:32 PM > >