Hello Shannon Only just come across your reply to me from last Nov after realizing my hotmail filter was filtering out all messages to me from mailing lists Im subscribed to! Thank goodness for the archive list. The Joseph Arber in the 1920 census is probably the one Im looking for, although he was born in Sheffield, England, and not Missouri. Is there any way I could find out more about him? I have no access to USA records Many belated thanks for your help Lindsey _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger