Bill, Have you participated in the Bates family DNA project? Which of the tested lines is each of your Bates from? My participant matched the JY line (John Bates 1598-1666 York Co. VA). Bonnie, Have you had someone from your line participate as well? What line matched your Bates line? Lee Anne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of William G. Bates Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] Bates There are several different family lines of BATES' in the Missouri/Arkansas area. Most of the one I know about are either through William BATES who led the wagon train from Cherokee Co, Ga about 1853 or one of my family lines out of York County, SC. The line that was in Sebastian County is John BATES Sr' second son, Zachariah BATES who went to Madison County, Tennessee before moving to Arkansas about 1850. The William J. BATES who settled in Boone Co (it was part of Carroll Co at the time-1876) was Zach's youngest son and, as I iterated previously, we have no idea why he left Sebastian Co which makes it part of our research efforts. Most of our problems is not able to do onsite research which, as most researchers know, is essential to finding the most relevant information and, many times, wall-busting information. Also, in a lot of places like Boone Co, much of the records are actually in the county of origin, in this case Carroll, from before this count was formed. I have an old file I created some years ago when tracing the seven different BATES family lines I fount to be out of South Carolina between 1805 to 1850 mostly into Georgia and Alabama. This file did not have my particular family line because we could not locate the South Carolina connection until about a year ago although I had many conversations with one of the researchers without establishing the link for quite some time. I just checked that file and do not find the names you mentioned however, I do not have a lot of later (after 1860) information as that was the primary era I was looking in (1830-60) for my connection and did not keep them up after deciding I was not going to connect to any of them. I also try my best when contacting other BATES researchers to see if I can link them with one of the lines I have done a little research on and to date, only have one who I have not been able to positively identify a connection. However, all of the ones I have helped were ! connected to John Isaac BATES "The Immigrant" which allowed me to point them to Witt BATES, researcher of BFOOV (Bates Family of old Virginia) who I have had many dealings with over my years of research. I sometimes wish I had the resources to pursue a "One Name Study" on all the BATES lines in North America but that is well beyond my scope, both financially (both travel and computer capabilities) and timewise. I would probably take an organization like the LDS to be able to implement to be able to produce searches of every county/province archives and even for them my four primary families (BATES, REYNOLDS, ALLEN, PRICE) would still be a HUGH undertaking, even for them. Oh well. Life goes on whether or not we want it to. Texas Bill On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:02 PM, [email protected] wrote: > I am glad you went to the list with the Bates , I am a decendant of Charles > Marion Bates 1/2 brother of Idaniel and Williston Bates and all were > around Boone Co., at one time so I was interested , but I think as of now that > he isn't connected, at least not yet. > Bonnie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes we have. I have at 37 marker test, Ray Bates of Washington state and Lendell Bates of northestern Alabama have 25 marker tests, and Bill Bates of Utah has a 12 marker test. Ray and Bill are in the line from Arkansas and I and Lendall are through Georgia and all our tests were through the Bates Project and are on Y-Search. There is also a nontested female as part of our research group through central Alabama. Our line is presently not "Branded" and does not connect with any other family line in the U.S. though I am an exact 37 match with a David Douglas Bates but so far his father as refused to talk about a possible connection in England. I have also have contact with Witt Bates of BFOOV and am a life member of The Bates Association of Massachusetts. On Jan 10, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Lee Anne Center wrote: > Bill, > > Have you participated in the Bates family DNA project? Which of the tested > lines is each of your Bates from? My participant matched the JY line (John > Bates 1598-1666 York Co. VA). > > Bonnie, > > Have you had someone from your line participate as well? What line matched > your Bates line? > > Lee Anne > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of William G. Bates > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] Bates > > There are several different family lines of BATES' in the Missouri/Arkansas > area. Most of the one I know about are either through William BATES who led > the wagon train from Cherokee Co, Ga about 1853 or one of my family lines > out of York County, SC. The line that was in Sebastian County is John BATES > Sr' second son, Zachariah BATES who went to Madison County, Tennessee before > moving to Arkansas about 1850. The William J. BATES who settled in Boone Co > (it was part of Carroll Co at the time-1876) was Zach's youngest son and, as > I iterated previously, we have no idea why he left Sebastian Co which makes > it part of our research efforts. Most of our problems is not able to do > onsite research which, as most researchers know, is essential to finding the > most relevant information and, many times, wall-busting information. Also, > in a lot of places like Boone Co, much of the records are actually in the > county of origin, in this case Carroll, from before this count was formed. > > I have an old file I created some years ago when tracing the seven different > BATES family lines I fount to be out of South Carolina between 1805 to 1850 > mostly into Georgia and Alabama. This file did not have my particular family > line because we could not locate the South Carolina connection until about a > year ago although I had many conversations with one of the researchers > without establishing the link for quite some time. I just checked that file > and do not find the names you mentioned however, I do not have a lot of > later (after 1860) information as that was the primary era I was looking in > (1830-60) for my connection and did not keep them up after deciding I was > not going to connect to any of them. I also try my best when contacting > other BATES researchers to see if I can link them with one of the lines I > have done a little research on and to date, only have one who I have not > been able to positively identify a connection. However, all of the ones I > have helped were ! > connected to John Isaac BATES "The Immigrant" which allowed me to point > them to Witt BATES, researcher of BFOOV (Bates Family of old Virginia) who I > have had many dealings with over my years of research. > > I sometimes wish I had the resources to pursue a "One Name Study" on all the > BATES lines in North America but that is well beyond my scope, both > financially (both travel and computer capabilities) and timewise. I would > probably take an organization like the LDS to be able to implement to be > able to produce searches of every county/province archives and even for them > my four primary families (BATES, REYNOLDS, ALLEN, PRICE) would still be a > HUGH undertaking, even for them. > > Oh well. Life goes on whether or not we want it to. > > Texas Bill > On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:02 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> I am glad you went to the list with the Bates , I am a decendant of > Charles >> Marion Bates 1/2 brother of Idaniel and Williston Bates and all were >> around Boone Co., at one time so I was interested , but I think as of now > that >> he isn't connected, at least not yet. >> Bonnie >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message