It is not just the BLM site. Every web site under the National Parks Service is down including the Civil War Solders and Sailors records. I have not heard when they will be back online, but they have to assure that Judge that the information he was trying to protect is not accessible. Earl D. House

Howdy, Y'all! Rootsweb was bought by Ancestry in June 2000; I uploaded my GEDCOM to WorldConnect at Rootsweb, but all the notes I get from folks mention they found it at Ancestry. I have been a member of Ancestry for several years, but really haven't found a benefit from it, and plan to cancel. Just a tad tired of the effort it takes to find a darn thing at Ancestry (too many clicks to make me happy). However, using Rootsweb hasn't really changed much since Ancestry bought it--the buyout just made it possible for Rootsweb to continue, since they weren't able to keep up financially. As more people transcribe records, etc. and donate them to Rootsweb, in a few years' time, Ancestry and other "membership" sites will be scrambling even more... Vonda ListMom for MOTaney and MO-AR-WRV http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gregvonda/

I think its bad enough that a lot of sites are being taken over by Ancestry and other paying sites but what are we to do? Now, to boot Texas and California have removed their sites. Does that mean we have to go to their states for information and genealogy? Its a shame for people like me--fairly new at genealogy learning the ropes. Mary

Received this today. Thought you'd all like to know why the www.glorecords.blm.gov land records site no longer is accessible. Have no further info yet, though. The various horrors I've dreamed up to inflict on each and every *&^%$#@! hacker, virus inventor, and the like are most unladylike and very definitely unprintable. However, I'm sure those of you who have "caught" a virus know what I'm thinking - and would probably agree. And now we have hackers and a US District Court Judge to thank for losing one of the better research sites on the Internet <Oh, drat> Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com ********************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: <MyRootsNBranches@aol.com> To: <AFHA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 6:59 AM Subject: [AFHA] There is a reason BLM cannot be accessed > If you are having problems accessing Bureau of Land Management ... there is a > reason...we have hackers to thank. It has been ordered by U.S. District Judge > Royce Lamberth to be shut down with no site of it being accessable again. > Good luck in your search > Kathy Stokes Hudson

Hi Vonda, I have found that all the same gedcoms exist on Rootsweb and Ancestry's sites. I guess that was one of the perks of the buy out. It sure would've been nice if people were told their file was also going to end up on ancestry.com. That's part of why I will not submit mine. Plus they are never deleted unless the owner of the gedcom chooses to do so. So if a person dies or something, that gedcom still is online, unless they have instructions pertaining to it in their will. Also, if a person no longer has online access, for whatever reason, the gedcom still lives on, unless they deleted it beforehand. Regards, Lori At 01:32 PM 1/2/02 -0600, you wrote: >Rootsweb was bought by Ancestry in June 2000; I uploaded my GEDCOM to >WorldConnect at Rootsweb, but all the notes I get from folks mention they >found it at Ancestry. I have been a member of Ancestry for several years, >but really haven't found a benefit from it, and plan to cancel. Just a tad >tired of the effort it takes to find a darn thing at Ancestry (too many >clicks to make me happy). _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Well, if you can't stand sitting thru some ads, along with some other minor stupidities... here's California birth and death records, along with some marriage records: http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/ If you do a search with just a surname, you will not (or at least didn't, the last time I tried it) get all the possible matches. So if you have a first name or initial, that's better. I haven't tried this site for marriage indices, but now that I know they have that, I'm about to. Regards, Lori At 01:14 PM 1/2/02 -0600, you wrote: >I think its bad enough that a lot of sites are being taken over by Ancestry and other paying > sites but what are we to do? Now, to boot Texas and California have removed their sites. Does that mean we have to go to their states for information and genealogy? >Its a shame for people like me--fairly new at genealogy learning the ropes. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Mary, A while back I joined the US GENWEB Helplist and do lookups here in Sacramento, CA. At times, when time permits, I post offers to the lists I am on (ARBOONE for instance) to try to help folks with their CA searching. Can I be of help to you (or anyone else) with CA search problems? Not that I know it all, but helping other folks does get my education advanced much faster and I'm not making all that much progress with my own stuff anyway... ron :) marylenoir <maryfrank@the-i.net> wrote: > I think its bad enough that a lot of sites are being taken over by Ancestry and other paying sites but what are we to do? Now, to boot Texas and California have removed their sites. Does that mean we have to go to their states for information and genealogy? Its a shame for people like me--fairly new at genealogy learning the ropes. Mary ==== ARBOONE Mailing List ==== Stop and think a second -- ALL queries go to the mail list if you are posting to the message boards. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

HI BOONE county,tracing my MAYES family,some ended up here,my ggrandmother was NANCY MAYES born 1845 in RAY county,MO.moved with her family to CLAIBORNE county,TN,also her family is in GRAINGER county,TN,beside CLAIBORNE,she married a MOORE who left her and the kids,no trace.i have a MAYES page where the below names are,i hope someone related will e me.i'd like info and old photos to put on my pages.thank you Ray Moore ------------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Loven McCarty b: August 24, 1812 in Grainger Co., Tennessee d: Aft. 1900 in Lead Hill, Boone Co., Arkansas .................. +Syntha Kirk b: Abt. 1812 in Grainger Co., Tennessee d: Abt. 1848 m: March 26, 1832 in Grainger Co., Tennessee ...................... 4 James F. M. McCarty b: 1834 ...................... 4 Elizabeth McCarty b: 1836

I wish for all of you a wonderful 2002 with many new contacts and connections made - good health and just enough wealth to feel good but not so much that you can't wear your old clothes comfortably. Marie List mom Boone Co., AR

I hope someone will see some names that look familier and be able to make a connection Rhoonda James Walker born in tenn. in 1821 Married Mary "polly" Roberts on Feb. 18, 1847 They had the following children. Sarah E. walker born 1849, Hannah T. walker Born april 1850 in tenn. she married John R. Abel Oct. 1869 Eliza J. walker born 1852 in Ark She married Elisha Blevins samuel J. walker born 1855 He married Sarah E. Abels Nancy A. walker born 1859 Thomas C. walker born 1860 2nd wife was Jullie Ann???? they had the following children Mary walker born 1862 in carrol county Ark. she married Lorenzo P. Marler june 20, 1880 Rachele Caroline walker born May 8, 1864 in carrol county Ark. she married John Henry Marler July 23, 1882 Millie Ann walker born 1867born in boone county Ark she married Amos sylvester Hensley Martha L. walker born 1869 she married Charles Edwards june 28, 1900 James william walker he married Flora Ann Smith Dec. 17, 1899 & twin Marinda walker born in Ark Feb. 6, 1871 she married a mitchell 3rd wife was Martha "patsy" possibly SMITH they had the following children Susan c. walker born May 1872 in boone county Ark she married James F. Dempsey Nov. 15th 1898 Lennoria E. walker born 1873 Hulda B. walker born may 1880 she married B.E. Wilburn, & John Lyda Henry L. walker born sept. 1881 in boone county Ark.he married Mary Eller Roberts

Help! I have looking for the wrong names. I had Edna Smith Stout from Harrison parents names wrong. They are James and Dora Kyle Smith. I had her Mother as Elizabeth but maybe she was talking about Elizabeth being her grandmother. I have Ednas husband John Franklin Stout parents as Benjamin Franklin and Laura Booth Stout. They may have come from the DeQueen area. It was the same Booth as John Wilkes--probably a cousin or Aunt they may have hidden him according to Edna. Hi to Judy. Mary

If you desc from any of the following names contact me and i will send you a invitation to my website"as The Raines Came Down' Raines wilson Williams Marler Bly Parton Roy Dejurnette/De jarnett Rowan Hughey Perry Wyrick Haskins plus more Thanks Dolores Dolores Raines/Sutton would you like an invitation to my" As The Raines came down" website?

Dolores Raines/Sutton http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~raines --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: drainessutton@juno.com To: drainessutton@juno.com Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:14:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Genealogy.com: Personal Home Page Message-ID: <200112222014.MAA15529@web19.genealogy.com> Reply-To: drainessutton@juno.com Received: from mx6.boston.juno.com (mx6.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.38]) by m22.jersey.juno.com with SMTP id AAA8CK4L3AG3XUQA for <drainessutton@juno.com> (sender <nobody@web19.genealogy.com>); Sat, 22 Dec 2001 15:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from web19.genealogy.com (ip185202.genealogy.com [208.209.185.202]) by mx6.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA8CK4L2A45QZ6S for <drainessutton@juno.com> (sender <nobody@web19.genealogy.com>); Sat, 22 Dec 2001 15:13:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by web19.genealogy.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id MAA15529 for drainessutton@juno.com; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:14:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <nobody@web19.genealogy.com> Message-ID: <200112222014.MAA15529@web19.genealogy.com> Dolores Raines Sutton recommends that you visit this Web site: http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/a/i/Dolores-Rainessutton/index.html Emily here is my webpage address Genealogy.com http://www.genealogy.com

I want to wish all of you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Above all, please be SAFE!! Marie List Mom

would like to exchange info with desc of any Haskins that came to Boone co.Ark in 1870 from Ala. then moved into Mo. and Okla. Dolores Raines/Sutton http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~raines

Re the wreck below, can anyone on this list supply the names of the deceased from this accident? Thanks!--David INVESTIGATIONS OF RAILROAD ACCIDENTS 1911 - 1966 > >> >> >> >> File Number 2082 Railroad MISSOURI PACIFIC RAILROAD Date 07/14/1936 >> Location MYRTLE, AR. Accident Type D. >> >> >> Inv-2082 INTERSTATE COMMERCE COMMISSION WASHINGTON REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR BUREAU OF SAFETY ACCIDENT ON THE MISSOURI PACIFIC RAILROAD MYRTLE, ARK. JULY 14, 1936 INVESTIGATION NO. 2082 SUMMARY Railroad: Missouri pacific Date: July 14, 1936 Location: Myrtle, Ark. Kind of accident: Derailment Train involved: Freight Train number: No. 261 Engine number: 1567 Consist: 31 cars Speed: 32-35 miles per hour Track: 6 degree curve to the left and. 1.0 percent descending grade. Weather: Clear Time: 6:20 a.m. Casualties: 2 killed Cause: Broken rail David B. Ellis (of historic Cane Hill, Arkansas)

Some of you know I had a bad crash recently and on top of that I mistakenly put some gen files on the wrong kind of zip disk so now I can't get to them - like I really needed that. What I need is someonewho uses a PC who is willing to take my 100 meg zip files- or I can put them on a CD - open the files and then export them as gedcom files. Then I can import them using my application on my iMac as the gen files they were originally. Anybody have some spare time and a willingness to help? Thanks, gang. And Happy Holidays to all. Hope Santa visits all of you real good. Marie List Mom

To the ARBOONE listers: This is a repeat of last August. I have access to some resources that might help some of you who had people MIGRATING TO CA. I have been using them as a Helplist member here for quite a while now. I should give you a sort of inventory of these resources.. I can check for deaths in the county recorder's office. They are current and as far back as some spotty 1800s. From about 1895 on are pretty good and by 1905 are dead on (so to speak).. There is a film of all death certicates IN SACRAMENTO co. only .... as well as marriages in the county. All California counties have these, but I only can access Sacramento Co. I can transcribe the information and email it to you. The California History Rm has the STATE wide index for deaths from 1905 to 1939 with the rest being on line now. There are some CA soundex (aka miracode) census there also There are some newspaper archives from around the state. (I confess I don't do well in Los Angeles newspapers), but I don't mind trying. Sometimes folks are working on a one surname hunt and I have been able to copy the micro fiche index for that entire surname in the death index. Another fairly useful tool is the current statewide property owner index. It is only for parts of the '80 and '90s though. When I went on the Helplist I was just getting started myself and so only put down look ups on the death index. I can usually find other stuff now. I try to keep the search activity to lunch hours, so speed of answer will depend on volume of inquiry. No fees intended. Copy costs, postage and your envelope would be about it. So, let me know how I can be of help. ron in CA (Sacramento) researching: Bolding, Christopher, Golladay, HANCOCK, Ramsey , STONE, Woolbright, et al

Are there any Wagley or Tippit/Tippet researchers on this list? If so, I would like to exchange information with you. Thanks. Phyllis

I gave the wrong URL for Gerdes' site. The correct URL is: http://www.couchgenweb.com/civilwar/ The above site is GREAT. When I couldn't find my 2nd great grandfather's cavalry roster or even info on the cavalry, I finally found it at the above site - just when I had given up hope of ever finding it online. This is someone that does Arkansas research for a fee: http://www.arkansasresearch.com/index.html Rootsweb also has an Arkansas Civil War mailing list. Info for that can be found at the bottom of this page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/AR/misc.html Regards, Lori The URL collector <G> _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com