There are several different family lines of BATES' in the Missouri/Arkansas area. Most of the one I know about are either through William BATES who led the wagon train from Cherokee Co, Ga about 1853 or one of my family lines out of York County, SC. The line that was in Sebastian County is John BATES Sr' second son, Zachariah BATES who went to Madison County, Tennessee before moving to Arkansas about 1850. The William J. BATES who settled in Boone Co (it was part of Carroll Co at the time-1876) was Zach's youngest son and, as I iterated previously, we have no idea why he left Sebastian Co which makes it part of our research efforts. Most of our problems is not able to do onsite research which, as most researchers know, is essential to finding the most relevant information and, many times, wall-busting information. Also, in a lot of places like Boone Co, much of the records are actually in the county of origin, in this case Carroll, from before this count was formed. I have an old file I created some years ago when tracing the seven different BATES family lines I fount to be out of South Carolina between 1805 to 1850 mostly into Georgia and Alabama. This file did not have my particular family line because we could not locate the South Carolina connection until about a year ago although I had many conversations with one of the researchers without establishing the link for quite some time. I just checked that file and do not find the names you mentioned however, I do not have a lot of later (after 1860) information as that was the primary era I was looking in (1830-60) for my connection and did not keep them up after deciding I was not going to connect to any of them. I also try my best when contacting other BATES researchers to see if I can link them with one of the lines I have done a little research on and to date, only have one who I have not been able to positively identify a connection. However, all of the ones I have helped were ! connected to John Isaac BATES "The Immigrant" which allowed me to point them to Witt BATES, researcher of BFOOV (Bates Family of old Virginia) who I have had many dealings with over my years of research. I sometimes wish I had the resources to pursue a "One Name Study" on all the BATES lines in North America but that is well beyond my scope, both financially (both travel and computer capabilities) and timewise. I would probably take an organization like the LDS to be able to implement to be able to produce searches of every county/province archives and even for them my four primary families (BATES, REYNOLDS, ALLEN, PRICE) would still be a HUGH undertaking, even for them. Oh well. Life goes on whether or not we want it to. Texas Bill On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:02 PM, [email protected] wrote: > I am glad you went to the list with the Bates , I am a decendant of Charles > Marion Bates 1/2 brother of Idaniel and Williston Bates and all were > around Boone Co., at one time so I was interested , but I think as of now that > he isn't connected, at least not yet. > Bonnie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am glad you went to the list with the Bates , I am a decendant of Charles Marion Bates 1/2 brother of Idaniel and Williston Bates and all were around Boone Co., at one time so I was interested , but I think as of now that he isn't connected, at least not yet. Bonnie

I, too, am also for everything being "open and above board" as the saying goes. However, there also has to be respect for the person offering the assistance's preferences as well. If you really want to see an extremely active, open, and multiple responsive list, subscribe to the Lancashire (Lancaster Shire [County]) England list. I have seen as much as a hundred posts in one day and there was at least three or four replies to any individual post offering not only advice but the actual transcripts of even pay per use databases. I will leave it up to the person offering assistance as I am sure he should have his say in this as well. Texas Bill On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:33 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > It does go on the list I am on the list.....Sarrah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 7:40 PM > Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] Obituaries > > >> I wish that everyone would send everything to the Arboone list so we all >> can get information and give information, I thought the list was for that, >> it >> would be so helpful. Please everyone do go on the list for help.!!!!!! >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been researching since 1998, and consisder my self an advanced genologist. Beginners here are some helpful hints , if you do know already about this , just ignore. sites I recommend: !) Volunteers can be found at Random Acts of Geneological Kindness . Go to this site and find a volunteer in your state then county.It is on the honor system and you will be expected to pay for postage,and photocopies. Some will go to cemetaries and take pictures of gravestones, in courthouse will search for deeds, wills and Marriage licenses. 2) Find a Grave site. 3) Footnotes on Ancestry.com this site will find most anything you need. this is a pay site. you will find Rev soldiers records and Confederacy soldiers.. 4)Recommend you join Ancestry.com there you can find census records and other helpful information.however some is inaccurate so dig deep and cross reference. 5) If you live in Texas, Houston has a wonderful lib. Clayton Lib for geneological research. The surnames in Boone county that I am researching. Murphy Penn Martin Smith Doss (Sarah Smith Doss applied for land late 1890 in Boone County) Freeman in Carroll County. ( 1860 census shows a William Freeman age 6 in household of Elizabeth Smith . I find son of Sarah Smith Doss in 1900 census Boone county Elizabeth( maiden name unknown) Freeman Smith was widow of unknown Freeman and had married Jordan Smith sometime between 1850 and 1860) Elizabeth Smith is shown in household of John Martin 1900 as stepmother in law. Sorry I stirred up such a hornets nest with my post. Mr Bates had posted his information ,and It just popped into my head "wonder if he looked at the cem listings in Boone and Carroll County". Sarrah Longview Texas

It does go on the list I am on the list.....Sarrah ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] Obituaries >I wish that everyone would send everything to the Arboone list so we all > can get information and give information, I thought the list was for that, > it > would be so helpful. Please everyone do go on the list for help.!!!!!! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with you wholeheartedly!. If, in fact, the entire history of a particular family is to be kept a deep, dark secret, then why ask for assistance from a free and open list such as ARBOONE-L? As a researcher for every single family in one particular Arkansas county, I can tell you it's hateful to have someone ask for help and then insist that whatever assistance might be forthcoming be hidden from all other researchers. Mysty [email protected] **************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] Obituaries >I wish that everyone would send everything to the Arboone list so we all > can get information and give information, I thought the list was for that, > it > would be so helpful. Please everyone do go on the list for help.!!!!!! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I wasn't sure that anyone besides me felt that way anymore. The added advantage of putting it on the lists is that it is there on the list archives for the future. ron in CA Mysty McPherson wrote: > I agree with you wholeheartedly!. If, in fact, the entire history of a > particular family is to be kept a deep, dark secret, then why ask for > assistance from a free and open list such as ARBOONE-L? As a researcher for > every single family in one particular Arkansas county, I can tell you it's > hateful to have someone ask for help and then insist that whatever > assistance might be forthcoming be hidden from all other researchers. > > Mysty [email protected] > **************************************** > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 7:40 PM > Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] Obituaries > > > >> I wish that everyone would send everything to the Arboone list so we all >> can get information and give information, I thought the list was for that, >> it >> would be so helpful. Please everyone do go on the list for help.!!!!!! >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I wish that everyone would send everything to the Arboone list so we all can get information and give information, I thought the list was for that, it would be so helpful. Please everyone do go on the list for help.!!!!!!

William have you looked closely at all the cemetary listings available online Boone County Cemetaries.. Also look in Carroll County Sarrah Longview Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "William G. Bates" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] Obituaries >I am looking for any kind of information on the following: > > Willliam J. BATES and his wife Sarah Jane WELLS. I have their marriage > and the census information and her death and burial information. I only > have an approximation, After 1924, for his death but have not found where > he is buried yet. He purchased property in 1876 through the Harrison land > office described: E1/2NE sec 6 T19N R22W Carroll County. This location > is in the Carrollton TWP that was barely across the county line when Boone > Co was formed and since I believe his son (next on list) took over the > farm when WJB died, this would be Long Creek area. The 1910 census also > shows an orphan, Johnnie F. TAYLOR, living with the family. Willand Sarah > had three children: William Zachariah BATES (full name from WW I draft > registration); Mary E. BATES-Mar 1893 married unknown PORTER; and John > Rubin Leslie BATES-11 Sep 1897 (full name from WW I draft registration. > Nothing on him from that date.) > > William Zachariah BATES and his wife Mary F. Will was born 7 Aug 1890 in > Boone County (believed to be Long Creek homestead), died 28 Oct 1948 Boone > County but I have not found where he is buried yet. Mary - All I have on > her is she was born in 1896 Tennessee (from censuses). They had four > children which I have dates only from the censuses; Hattie Q. BATES-1914, > Gladis E. BATES-Oct 1916, Walsie M. BATES-1922, and Juanita O. BATES-1924. > > Special Note: There is another William J. BATES in the Carroll County > area before 1900 who is from Alabama, extremely close in age (Same Year), > Married to Paralie PRICE-dau of Gov Sterling PRICE of St Louis, Mo and > they have two sons, Sterling Price BATES and Robert Lee BATES, and a dau > but offhand I do not remember her name. This family moved to Texas > (Runnels County) sometime before 1900. > > A little more background: William J. BATES is the youngest son of > Zachariah and Lavina BATES from York County, South Carolina through > Madison County, Tennessee. Zach's family left Tennessee probably on a > wagon train from Obion County, Tennessee probably late spring/early summer > 1850. We believe they dropped out of the train in the vicinity of > Carrollton with all but one son settling in Sebastian County before The > War. The one son who was in Washington County before the War also moved > to Sebastian County shortly after the war. All the boys were "drafted" > into the Confederate Army in Sebastian County except for the one in > Washington County. William initially tries to settle down in Sebastian > County but for some reason we do not know about he files to purchase > property in Carroll County (Before Boone formed) and moves up there but is > probably still considered "transient" on the 1880 census and not > enumerated. Will returned to Sebastian County not too long before he was > d! > eeded the property. > > Sorry for how long this is but this is all the information I have been > able to find online and I live in El Paso, Tx. > > En El Nombre JESUS DE CHRISTO > Texas Bill > On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:09 PM, Michelle Ross wrote: > >> Hi Listers, >> >> I do lookups for obituaries and special newspaper articles. Please >> contact me direct [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. >> >> Michelle >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I have been through all the records available, both through the county website and on ancestry.com. This note was a mistake as it should have been direct rather than thru the list. Bill B On Dec 6, 2009, at 3:25 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > William have you looked closely at all the cemetary listings available > online Boone County Cemetaries.. Also look in Carroll County > Sarrah Longview Texas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William G. Bates" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:59 PM > Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] Obituaries > > >> I am looking for any kind of information on the following: >> >> Willliam J. BATES and his wife Sarah Jane WELLS. I have their marriage >> and the census information and her death and burial information. I only >> have an approximation, After 1924, for his death but have not found where >> he is buried yet. He purchased property in 1876 through the Harrison land >> office described: E1/2NE sec 6 T19N R22W Carroll County. This location >> is in the Carrollton TWP that was barely across the county line when Boone >> Co was formed and since I believe his son (next on list) took over the >> farm when WJB died, this would be Long Creek area. The 1910 census also >> shows an orphan, Johnnie F. TAYLOR, living with the family. Willand Sarah >> had three children: William Zachariah BATES (full name from WW I draft >> registration); Mary E. BATES-Mar 1893 married unknown PORTER; and John >> Rubin Leslie BATES-11 Sep 1897 (full name from WW I draft registration. >> Nothing on him from that date.) >> >> William Zachariah BATES and his wife Mary F. Will was born 7 Aug 1890 in >> Boone County (believed to be Long Creek homestead), died 28 Oct 1948 Boone >> County but I have not found where he is buried yet. Mary - All I have on >> her is she was born in 1896 Tennessee (from censuses). They had four >> children which I have dates only from the censuses; Hattie Q. BATES-1914, >> Gladis E. BATES-Oct 1916, Walsie M. BATES-1922, and Juanita O. BATES-1924. >> >> Special Note: There is another William J. BATES in the Carroll County >> area before 1900 who is from Alabama, extremely close in age (Same Year), >> Married to Paralie PRICE-dau of Gov Sterling PRICE of St Louis, Mo and >> they have two sons, Sterling Price BATES and Robert Lee BATES, and a dau >> but offhand I do not remember her name. This family moved to Texas >> (Runnels County) sometime before 1900. >> >> A little more background: William J. BATES is the youngest son of >> Zachariah and Lavina BATES from York County, South Carolina through >> Madison County, Tennessee. Zach's family left Tennessee probably on a >> wagon train from Obion County, Tennessee probably late spring/early summer >> 1850. We believe they dropped out of the train in the vicinity of >> Carrollton with all but one son settling in Sebastian County before The >> War. The one son who was in Washington County before the War also moved >> to Sebastian County shortly after the war. All the boys were "drafted" >> into the Confederate Army in Sebastian County except for the one in >> Washington County. William initially tries to settle down in Sebastian >> County but for some reason we do not know about he files to purchase >> property in Carroll County (Before Boone formed) and moves up there but is >> probably still considered "transient" on the 1880 census and not >> enumerated. Will returned to Sebastian County not too long before he was >> d! >> eeded the property. >> >> Sorry for how long this is but this is all the information I have been >> able to find online and I live in El Paso, Tx. >> >> En El Nombre JESUS DE CHRISTO >> Texas Bill >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:09 PM, Michelle Ross wrote: >> >>> Hi Listers, >>> >>> I do lookups for obituaries and special newspaper articles. Please >>> contact me direct [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. >>> >>> Michelle >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for any kind of information on the following: Willliam J. BATES and his wife Sarah Jane WELLS. I have their marriage and the census information and her death and burial information. I only have an approximation, After 1924, for his death but have not found where he is buried yet. He purchased property in 1876 through the Harrison land office described: E1/2NE sec 6 T19N R22W Carroll County. This location is in the Carrollton TWP that was barely across the county line when Boone Co was formed and since I believe his son (next on list) took over the farm when WJB died, this would be Long Creek area. The 1910 census also shows an orphan, Johnnie F. TAYLOR, living with the family. Willand Sarah had three children: William Zachariah BATES (full name from WW I draft registration); Mary E. BATES-Mar 1893 married unknown PORTER; and John Rubin Leslie BATES-11 Sep 1897 (full name from WW I draft registration. Nothing on him from that date.) William Zachariah BATES and his wife Mary F. Will was born 7 Aug 1890 in Boone County (believed to be Long Creek homestead), died 28 Oct 1948 Boone County but I have not found where he is buried yet. Mary - All I have on her is she was born in 1896 Tennessee (from censuses). They had four children which I have dates only from the censuses; Hattie Q. BATES-1914, Gladis E. BATES-Oct 1916, Walsie M. BATES-1922, and Juanita O. BATES-1924. Special Note: There is another William J. BATES in the Carroll County area before 1900 who is from Alabama, extremely close in age (Same Year), Married to Paralie PRICE-dau of Gov Sterling PRICE of St Louis, Mo and they have two sons, Sterling Price BATES and Robert Lee BATES, and a dau but offhand I do not remember her name. This family moved to Texas (Runnels County) sometime before 1900. A little more background: William J. BATES is the youngest son of Zachariah and Lavina BATES from York County, South Carolina through Madison County, Tennessee. Zach's family left Tennessee probably on a wagon train from Obion County, Tennessee probably late spring/early summer 1850. We believe they dropped out of the train in the vicinity of Carrollton with all but one son settling in Sebastian County before The War. The one son who was in Washington County before the War also moved to Sebastian County shortly after the war. All the boys were "drafted" into the Confederate Army in Sebastian County except for the one in Washington County. William initially tries to settle down in Sebastian County but for some reason we do not know about he files to purchase property in Carroll County (Before Boone formed) and moves up there but is probably still considered "transient" on the 1880 census and not enumerated. Will returned to Sebastian County not too long before he was d! eeded the property. Sorry for how long this is but this is all the information I have been able to find online and I live in El Paso, Tx. En El Nombre JESUS DE CHRISTO Texas Bill On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:09 PM, Michelle Ross wrote: > Hi Listers, > > I do lookups for obituaries and special newspaper articles. Please contact me direct [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. > > Michelle > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, I do lookups for obituaries and special newspaper articles. Please contact me direct [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Michelle

Roberta, I think I can help with your Moses Estes dilemma. If you will go to the Marion Co AR web page and click on Links To Outside Sites, then click on Home Pages For Marion County, then click on Genealogy: A Reunion With The Past, then follow the trail thru the Estes family, I think Rhio has all the information you're needing. Feel free to contact Rhio if you have questions or problems. She's always more than happy to help. Mysty [email protected] ******************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: "roberta hall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin > My understanding of the Estes family is that it originated in England with > a > Nicholas Eastes b around 1522. I don't have my books out so don't quote > me. > Sometime around 1636/38 the story goes that there were 4 Estes brothers > who > left England for the "New World". 3 of the brothers stayed in the New > England area and became rather successful in their own right. One brother > is > credited for being the progenitor of the "Southern Branch". Off hand I > can't > tell you the original source of this story or the brothers names. > What I can tell you is that I descend from the southern branch. I have > been > able to paper trail trace my blood line to a Moses Estes who was the > father > of Gallant, Bethelehem and Nathanial. I descend from Gallant who was said > to > have been born around 1780 in Virginia. > Moses is proving to be difficult to pin down I have that he was b around > 1752 possibly in Va. or N.C. There are apparently 2 Moses Estes. No one as > yet has been able to tell me if the 2 Moses are possibly one in the same > or > two different branches. Either way to prove we are of the origins that > trace > back to Nicholas Eastes my father took a DNA test and we are 100% related. > Now trying to find the elusive Moses and his origins is our brick wall and > we hope to one day be able to solve his mystery and finally connect to the > other family members of whom we are genetically proven to be kin to. > Sorry I have to cut this short, I have my mom on the phone. > Chat soon hope this helps. > > Roberta Estes Hall > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:04 PM > Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin > > >> The Estes surname popped up in our Martin family my uncle Roy 's middle >> name was Estes , where it came from no idea . the connection may be with >> the Murphy family or the Penn family . Any ideas ??? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "roberta hall" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:53 AM >> Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin >> >> >>> Don't know much about the Pillow line. My connection is thru a Jeff G. >>> Pillow. Jeff married my great great grandparents 3rd child, Alice Estes. >>> My >>> records show Jeff was born in 1862 and died in 1936, his wife Alice was >>> born >>> 12-31-1869 and died in 1947. According to records they are buried in >>> Grubbs >>> Springs Cemetery in Boone Co., but I have a photo of their headstone and >>> they are in Denning cemetery. I don't know if they are one in the same >>> cemetery, i.e. was their a name change? Jeff is listed as being from >>> Harrison my Estes family bounced around between Yellville in Marion Co., >>> and >>> Boone Co., where they settled about 7 miles out side of Harrison in >>> Capps. >>> >>> Sorry I couldn't give you more but I hope this helps, >>> >>> Roberta Estes Hall >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sandi" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:22 PM >>> Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> AM kin to Pillow; what info do you have; I don't have very much. >>>> Anything >>>> would be >>>> appreciated. I do have info on the branch that ended up in Oregon. >>>> Thank you >>>> Sandi in Oregon >>>> >>>>>------- Original Message ------- >>>>>From : Barb[mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>Sent : 11/7/2009 11:30:46 AM >>>>>To : [email protected] >>>>>Cc : >>>>>Subject : RE: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin >>>>> >>>> >I am very interested in your Brown line. Are they related at all to >>>> >Lawson or >>>> Dogherty/Dougherty? >>>> >>>> I do have Cowdrey in my line. >>>> >>>> Barb >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "roberta hall" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> My kin branch off my Estes' who came to Marion Co., first then to >>>> Boone. >>>> First came to Ark. in >>>> the 1860's. >>>> Connecting family branches are: >>>> Parker >>>> Thompson >>>> Wood >>>> Hutchinson >>>> Woods >>>> Moore >>>> Cantrell >>>> Stoddard >>>> Jackson >>>> Hart >>>> Elkins >>>> Barnhill >>>> Dillard >>>> Brown >>>> Cowdry >>>> Albright >>>> Speet >>>> Pillow >>>> Elam >>>> Terry >>>> White >>>> Stalkup >>>> McLane >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the >>>> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >>>> the >>>> message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the >>>> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >>>> the >>>> message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My understanding of the Estes family is that it originated in England with a Nicholas Eastes b around 1522. I don't have my books out so don't quote me. Sometime around 1636/38 the story goes that there were 4 Estes brothers who left England for the "New World". 3 of the brothers stayed in the New England area and became rather successful in their own right. One brother is credited for being the progenitor of the "Southern Branch". Off hand I can't tell you the original source of this story or the brothers names. What I can tell you is that I descend from the southern branch. I have been able to paper trail trace my blood line to a Moses Estes who was the father of Gallant, Bethelehem and Nathanial. I descend from Gallant who was said to have been born around 1780 in Virginia. Moses is proving to be difficult to pin down I have that he was b around 1752 possibly in Va. or N.C. There are apparently 2 Moses Estes. No one as yet has been able to tell me if the 2 Moses are possibly one in the same or two different branches. Either way to prove we are of the origins that trace back to Nicholas Eastes my father took a DNA test and we are 100% related. Now trying to find the elusive Moses and his origins is our brick wall and we hope to one day be able to solve his mystery and finally connect to the other family members of whom we are genetically proven to be kin to. Sorry I have to cut this short, I have my mom on the phone. Chat soon hope this helps. Roberta Estes Hall ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin > The Estes surname popped up in our Martin family my uncle Roy 's middle > name was Estes , where it came from no idea . the connection may be with > the Murphy family or the Penn family . Any ideas ??? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "roberta hall" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:53 AM > Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin > > >> Don't know much about the Pillow line. My connection is thru a Jeff G. >> Pillow. Jeff married my great great grandparents 3rd child, Alice Estes. >> My >> records show Jeff was born in 1862 and died in 1936, his wife Alice was >> born >> 12-31-1869 and died in 1947. According to records they are buried in >> Grubbs >> Springs Cemetery in Boone Co., but I have a photo of their headstone and >> they are in Denning cemetery. I don't know if they are one in the same >> cemetery, i.e. was their a name change? Jeff is listed as being from >> Harrison my Estes family bounced around between Yellville in Marion Co., >> and >> Boone Co., where they settled about 7 miles out side of Harrison in >> Capps. >> >> Sorry I couldn't give you more but I hope this helps, >> >> Roberta Estes Hall >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sandi" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:22 PM >> Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin >> >> >>> >>> >>> AM kin to Pillow; what info do you have; I don't have very much. >>> Anything >>> would be >>> appreciated. I do have info on the branch that ended up in Oregon. >>> Thank you >>> Sandi in Oregon >>> >>>>------- Original Message ------- >>>>From : Barb[mailto:[email protected]] >>>>Sent : 11/7/2009 11:30:46 AM >>>>To : [email protected] >>>>Cc : >>>>Subject : RE: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin >>>> >>> >I am very interested in your Brown line. Are they related at all to >>> >Lawson or >>> Dogherty/Dougherty? >>> >>> I do have Cowdrey in my line. >>> >>> Barb >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "roberta hall" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> My kin branch off my Estes' who came to Marion Co., first then to Boone. >>> First came to Ark. in >>> the 1860's. >>> Connecting family branches are: >>> Parker >>> Thompson >>> Wood >>> Hutchinson >>> Woods >>> Moore >>> Cantrell >>> Stoddard >>> Jackson >>> Hart >>> Elkins >>> Barnhill >>> Dillard >>> Brown >>> Cowdry >>> Albright >>> Speet >>> Pillow >>> Elam >>> Terry >>> White >>> Stalkup >>> McLane >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the >>> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the >>> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Estes surname popped up in our Martin family my uncle Roy 's middle name was Estes , where it came from no idea . the connection may be with the Murphy family or the Penn family . Any ideas ??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "roberta hall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin > Don't know much about the Pillow line. My connection is thru a Jeff G. > Pillow. Jeff married my great great grandparents 3rd child, Alice Estes. > My > records show Jeff was born in 1862 and died in 1936, his wife Alice was > born > 12-31-1869 and died in 1947. According to records they are buried in > Grubbs > Springs Cemetery in Boone Co., but I have a photo of their headstone and > they are in Denning cemetery. I don't know if they are one in the same > cemetery, i.e. was their a name change? Jeff is listed as being from > Harrison my Estes family bounced around between Yellville in Marion Co., > and > Boone Co., where they settled about 7 miles out side of Harrison in Capps. > > Sorry I couldn't give you more but I hope this helps, > > Roberta Estes Hall > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandi" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:22 PM > Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin > > >> >> >> AM kin to Pillow; what info do you have; I don't have very much. >> Anything >> would be >> appreciated. I do have info on the branch that ended up in Oregon. >> Thank you >> Sandi in Oregon >> >>>------- Original Message ------- >>>From : Barb[mailto:[email protected]] >>>Sent : 11/7/2009 11:30:46 AM >>>To : [email protected] >>>Cc : >>>Subject : RE: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin >>> >> >I am very interested in your Brown line. Are they related at all to >> >Lawson or >> Dogherty/Dougherty? >> >> I do have Cowdrey in my line. >> >> Barb >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "roberta hall" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> My kin branch off my Estes' who came to Marion Co., first then to Boone. >> First came to Ark. in >> the 1860's. >> Connecting family branches are: >> Parker >> Thompson >> Wood >> Hutchinson >> Woods >> Moore >> Cantrell >> Stoddard >> Jackson >> Hart >> Elkins >> Barnhill >> Dillard >> Brown >> Cowdry >> Albright >> Speet >> Pillow >> Elam >> Terry >> White >> Stalkup >> McLane >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the >> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the >> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't know much about the Pillow line. My connection is thru a Jeff G. Pillow. Jeff married my great great grandparents 3rd child, Alice Estes. My records show Jeff was born in 1862 and died in 1936, his wife Alice was born 12-31-1869 and died in 1947. According to records they are buried in Grubbs Springs Cemetery in Boone Co., but I have a photo of their headstone and they are in Denning cemetery. I don't know if they are one in the same cemetery, i.e. was their a name change? Jeff is listed as being from Harrison my Estes family bounced around between Yellville in Marion Co., and Boone Co., where they settled about 7 miles out side of Harrison in Capps. Sorry I couldn't give you more but I hope this helps, Roberta Estes Hall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandi" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin > > > AM kin to Pillow; what info do you have; I don't have very much. Anything > would be > appreciated. I do have info on the branch that ended up in Oregon. > Thank you > Sandi in Oregon > >>------- Original Message ------- >>From : Barb[mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent : 11/7/2009 11:30:46 AM >>To : [email protected] >>Cc : >>Subject : RE: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin >> > >I am very interested in your Brown line. Are they related at all to > >Lawson or > Dogherty/Dougherty? > > I do have Cowdrey in my line. > > Barb > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "roberta hall" <[email protected]> wrote: > > My kin branch off my Estes' who came to Marion Co., first then to Boone. > First came to Ark. in > the 1860's. > Connecting family branches are: > Parker > Thompson > Wood > Hutchinson > Woods > Moore > Cantrell > Stoddard > Jackson > Hart > Elkins > Barnhill > Dillard > Brown > Cowdry > Albright > Speet > Pillow > Elam > Terry > White > Stalkup > McLane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Sandi, Looks like your family left a little earlier than mine did. Did anyone else's family leave Lead Hill/Independence, Kansas around March/April 1952 and arrive in Oregon City, Oregon in September of 1952? Would love to hear from you. Reta In a message dated 11/9/2009 1:05:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi my family came from Arkansas to Idaho on the train about 1900 and then on to Oregon in 1919. Living in the Northwest area from Portland. They traveled by wagon train in and around Idaho. Sandi >------- Original Message ------- >From : [email protected][mailto:[email protected]] >Sent : 11/8/2009 9:11:04 PM >To : [email protected] >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin - Who went to Oregon > >Sandi, When did your family go to Oregon? In 1952 a wagon train (ox carts is more like it) left the Lead Hill area and went to Oregon, arriving in Oregon City in September of 1952. William DeShields and his wife Martha Elizabeth McBride DeShields were on that train. They left 2 children in Lead Hill. Amanda Jane DeShields Hughey (married about that time) and William Maxwell DeShields who became the first postmaster of Green Forest (I think this is right) the rest of the kids went with them. I know William and his brother, Handy DeShields came to Fayetteville, Arkansas the fall before they left for oregon and filed a claim for their property. Fayetteville was abuz with the people from Prairie Grove planning on going on their trip to California. So, do you know what train they went on and when they arrived in Oregon? Reta DeShields Parton [email protected] In a message dated 11/7/2009 9:22:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: AM kin to Pillow; what info do you have; I don't have very much. Anything would be appreciated. I do have info on the branch that ended up in Oregon. Thank you Sandi in Oregon >------- Original Message ------- >From : Barb[ mailto:[email protected]] >Sent : 11/7/2009 11:30:46 AM >To : [email protected] >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin > >I am very interested in your Brown line. Are they related at all to Lawson or Dogherty/Dougherty? I do have Cowdrey in my line. Barb Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "roberta hall" <[email protected]> wrote: My kin branch off my Estes' who came to Marion Co., first then to Boone. First came to Ark. in the 1860's. Connecting family branches are: Parker Thompson Wood Hutchinson Woods Moore Cantrell Stoddard Jackson Hart Elkins Barnhill Dillard Brown Cowdry Albright Speet Pillow Elam Terry White Stalkup McLane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi my family came from Arkansas to Idaho on the train about 1900 and then on to Oregon in 1919. Living in the Northwest area from Portland. They traveled by wagon train in and around Idaho. Sandi >------- Original Message ------- >From : [email protected][mailto:[email protected]] >Sent : 11/8/2009 9:11:04 PM >To : [email protected] >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin - Who went to Oregon > >Sandi, When did your family go to Oregon? In 1952 a wagon train (ox carts is more like it) left the Lead Hill area and went to Oregon, arriving in Oregon City in September of 1952. William DeShields and his wife Martha Elizabeth McBride DeShields were on that train. They left 2 children in Lead Hill. Amanda Jane DeShields Hughey (married about that time) and William Maxwell DeShields who became the first postmaster of Green Forest (I think this is right) the rest of the kids went with them. I know William and his brother, Handy DeShields came to Fayetteville, Arkansas the fall before they left for oregon and filed a claim for their property. Fayetteville was abuz with the people from Prairie Grove planning on going on their trip to California. So, do you know what train they went on and when they arrived in Oregon? Reta DeShields Parton [email protected] In a message dated 11/7/2009 9:22:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: AM kin to Pillow; what info do you have; I don't have very much. Anything would be appreciated. I do have info on the branch that ended up in Oregon. Thank you Sandi in Oregon >------- Original Message ------- >From : Barb[ mailto:[email protected]] >Sent : 11/7/2009 11:30:46 AM >To : [email protected] >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin > >I am very interested in your Brown line. Are they related at all to Lawson or Dogherty/Dougherty? I do have Cowdrey in my line. Barb Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "roberta hall" <[email protected]> wrote: My kin branch off my Estes' who came to Marion Co., first then to Boone. First came to Ark. in the 1860's. Connecting family branches are: Parker Thompson Wood Hutchinson Woods Moore Cantrell Stoddard Jackson Hart Elkins Barnhill Dillard Brown Cowdry Albright Speet Pillow Elam Terry White Stalkup McLane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sandi, When did your family go to Oregon? In 1952 a wagon train (ox carts is more like it) left the Lead Hill area and went to Oregon, arriving in Oregon City in September of 1952. William DeShields and his wife Martha Elizabeth McBride DeShields were on that train. They left 2 children in Lead Hill. Amanda Jane DeShields Hughey (married about that time) and William Maxwell DeShields who became the first postmaster of Green Forest (I think this is right) the rest of the kids went with them. I know William and his brother, Handy DeShields came to Fayetteville, Arkansas the fall before they left for oregon and filed a claim for their property. Fayetteville was abuz with the people from Prairie Grove planning on going on their trip to California. So, do you know what train they went on and when they arrived in Oregon? Reta DeShields Parton [email protected] In a message dated 11/7/2009 9:22:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: AM kin to Pillow; what info do you have; I don't have very much. Anything would be appreciated. I do have info on the branch that ended up in Oregon. Thank you Sandi in Oregon >------- Original Message ------- >From : Barb[mailto:[email protected]] >Sent : 11/7/2009 11:30:46 AM >To : [email protected] >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin > >I am very interested in your Brown line. Are they related at all to Lawson or Dogherty/Dougherty? I do have Cowdrey in my line. Barb Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "roberta hall" <[email protected]> wrote: My kin branch off my Estes' who came to Marion Co., first then to Boone. First came to Ark. in the 1860's. Connecting family branches are: Parker Thompson Wood Hutchinson Woods Moore Cantrell Stoddard Jackson Hart Elkins Barnhill Dillard Brown Cowdry Albright Speet Pillow Elam Terry White Stalkup McLane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

AM kin to Pillow; what info do you have; I don't have very much. Anything would be appreciated. I do have info on the branch that ended up in Oregon. Thank you Sandi in Oregon >------- Original Message ------- >From : Barb[mailto:[email protected]] >Sent : 11/7/2009 11:30:46 AM >To : [email protected] >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [ARBOONE] My Ark. kin > >I am very interested in your Brown line. Are they related at all to Lawson or Dogherty/Dougherty? I do have Cowdrey in my line. Barb Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:18 AM, "roberta hall" <[email protected]> wrote: My kin branch off my Estes' who came to Marion Co., first then to Boone. First came to Ark. in the 1860's. Connecting family branches are: Parker Thompson Wood Hutchinson Woods Moore Cantrell Stoddard Jackson Hart Elkins Barnhill Dillard Brown Cowdry Albright Speet Pillow Elam Terry White Stalkup McLane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message