Just what I needed Bernie--thank you. Lucy must have middle name Jane She MIGHT have died giving birth to Auston L ? sometime between 1870-1876 and Lucy MIGHT be buried in unmarked grave in East Oakland probably near Mart and Auston. Family member once said "Hardin's mother was a Green also" -- don't know if Green was maiden name or she was widow of a Green. And to cap that off I'm still not real sure that Clarinda was Mart's wife. He has 2 others living in his house- anyone think Clarinda MIGHT be widow of someone very close to Mart ? I need some thoughts here. Mary Belle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com