Peggy So, this Ballard household that my McCoy was living in? Your Luthers intermarried with them? The Ballards, I meand? Bernie Moore-Knowles Phoenix, Arizona - Papa'aloa, Hawai'i "I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to question my honesty." ........Will Rogers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Truesdell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [ARBAXTER] McCoy - BALLARD hhld (Bernie) > Bernie, I think father of this John H. BALLARD (b. November 1895 per MCAR 1900 census) was Henry BALLARD (b. December 1854, AR per MCAR 1900 census). > > And Henry appears to be husband of my great-aunt Mary Ann LUTHER (1863, AR - abt. 1881). Mary Ann is in 1870 MCAR census with her mother and family. My Aunt, Cleora {KING} ROBERTSON, thought Mary Ann buried at Gassville Cemetery, but no marker; so not located. > > Early in 2003, found Louis Alexander BALLARD (1 February 1881, AR - d. 9 November 1943, Santa Barbara, CA) in California Death Record Index -- with mother's maiden name of LUTHER. What a surprise! In 1900 MCAR census, he is married to Mamie { ? } (b. March 1883, AR). Household is adjacent or near to Henry BALLARD and wife Sarah J. I only extracted that census a few days ago and have not typed or posted it, so it's here around my desk. > > Just printed about nine pages of BALLARD miscellany so can read it for new clues. Again, you and I have relatives that "rubbed elbows." > > Following up on your query about DeSoto Township -- in that area (map drawn by Randy Hopper on page 412 of MCAR history book) are these: > > Rocky Hollow, Freck, Cedar Glade, Dillard, Mull, Rush, Hamlet. > > Located across top of above are: > > Watts, Cowan, Bearden -- with Buffalo (at confluence of Buffalo and White Rivers) to the East of Bearden. > > It appears Rush, known as mining location, is in DeSoto Township. > > Peggy > > > ==== ARBAXTER Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
<< Bernie, I think father of this John H. BALLARD (b. November 1895 per MCAR 1900 census) was Henry BALLARD (b. December 1854, AR per MCAR 1900 census). And Henry appears to be husband of my great-aunt Mary Ann LUTHER (1863, AR - abt. 1881). Mary Ann in 1870 MCAR census with her mother and family. My Aunt, Cleora {KING} ROBERTSON, thought Mary Ann buried at Gassville Cemetery, but no marker; so not located. Early in 2003, found Louis Alexander BALLARD (1 February 1881, AR - d. 9 November 1943, Santa Barbara, CA) in California Death Record Index -- with mother's maiden name of LUTHER. What a surprise! In 1900 MCAR census, he is married to Mamie { ? } (b. March 1883, AR). Household is adjacent or near to Henry BALLARD and wife Sarah J. >> Vera, in that magic hat of yours, would you have marriage for: Louis Alexander BALLARD (b. abt. 1881) to Mamie (or Minnie) {Unknown) (b. abt. 1883) -- possibly in Marion County, Arkansas ??? Would love to learn more about him. And, I surmise that you have experience in obtaining California birth or death certificates. I have a huge book that has addresses, but would appreciate any hints you may have. I could also look them up on MSN home page. Thank you, Vera. Peggy
Bernie, I think father of this John H. BALLARD (b. November 1895 per MCAR 1900 census) was Henry BALLARD (b. December 1854, AR per MCAR 1900 census). And Henry appears to be husband of my great-aunt Mary Ann LUTHER (1863, AR - abt. 1881). Mary Ann is in 1870 MCAR census with her mother and family. My Aunt, Cleora {KING} ROBERTSON, thought Mary Ann buried at Gassville Cemetery, but no marker; so not located. Early in 2003, found Louis Alexander BALLARD (1 February 1881, AR - d. 9 November 1943, Santa Barbara, CA) in California Death Record Index -- with mother's maiden name of LUTHER. What a surprise! In 1900 MCAR census, he is married to Mamie { ? } (b. March 1883, AR). Household is adjacent or near to Henry BALLARD and wife Sarah J. I only extracted that census a few days ago and have not typed or posted it, so it's here around my desk. Just printed about nine pages of BALLARD miscellany so can read it for new clues. Again, you and I have relatives that "rubbed elbows." Following up on your query about DeSoto Township -- in that area (map drawn by Randy Hopper on page 412 of MCAR history book) are these: Rocky Hollow, Freck, Cedar Glade, Dillard, Mull, Rush, Hamlet. Located across top of above are: Watts, Cowan, Bearden -- with Buffalo (at confluence of Buffalo and White Rivers) to the East of Bearden. It appears Rush, known as mining location, is in DeSoto Township. Peggy
Hi all Looks like Floyd McCoy stayed around in Marion Co. for awhile more. Found in the White River township - but now enumerated as farm labor. No more zinc mines for him? 19 January 1920 Marion Co., Arkansas census, White River Township: BALLARD, John H. head M W 24 single AR AR MO farmer #141/141 Sarah J. mother F W 52 widow MO NC MO Ida M. sister F W 22 single AR AR MO ZISMER, John boarder M W 18 single AR MO AR laborer MCCOY, Floyd boarder M W 27 single MO MO MO laborer Bernie Moore-Knowles Phoenix, Arizona - Papa'aloa, Hawai'i "I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
What is this -- this morning -- the Pepsi Challenge? Just kidding, you know. In book, "History of Marion County," don't find DeSoto in "Post Offices and Postmasters." My book is not indexed so can't readily find DeSoto. But have map, Rand McNally "Standard Map of Arkansas," with townships. DeSoto Township is on south border of MCAR with Searcy County. It borders Tomahawk and Maumee Townships in Searcy County. The Buffalo River runs through DeSoto, Maumee and Tomahawk Townships. In Marion County, Jefferson Township is just east of DeSoto Township -- then Big Creek Township is between Jefferson Township and the border of Baxter County which is Matney County. So, DeSoto Township is not too far west of the corner where Searcy, Stone, Baxter, and Marion Counties meet. Now, in the 1900 census you posted -- which one is (ones are) your SMITHs? Peggy
Peggy This is getting more interesting. I am fortunate that there are two Smith researchers of my Laclede Co., Missouri Smiths - which was my father's paternal grandmother's maiden name - that always send me updates that they find them and vise versa. Both of these women are more knowledgable in Missouri research than I and I am the Arkansas connection. Which means that I ask you all for help all the time! LOL Here is a quick line chart: My father's line: Brackin Smith (b1812 TN)> Eliza Jane Smith Moore (b1852 MO) > Arthur Samuel Moore (b1885 MO) > Lowell Arthur "L. A." Moore (b1917 AR) > me And mother's Smith line? Thomas J. Smith (b1866 MO) > Sherman Lee Smith (b1888 AR) > Lena Bernice Smith Moore (b1918 AR) > me Now, the interesting thing that has been coming forward in my father's Smith research - L. A.'s direct family appear to have migrated to the borders of Randolph CO., Arkansas circa 1900 - from the Lebanon area of Laclede Co., Missouri. Many stayed in the Lebanon area of Laclede Co., though. Just last year, we found my MOTHER's Smith family buried there in Lebanon - Joe Smith, youngest Smith sibling and brother to my grandfather; Sherman Lee Smith; which you know has the Baxter Co., Arkansas and Indian Territory roots. How Joe Smith ended up in Lebanon, is anyone's guess at this point - but, he is buried with his last wife; Beulah Morehouse Regean Smith - there at the Lebanon City Cemetery. Now, I was never told that Mother and L. A.'s two families ever were kin. As a matter of fact, I did not know that L. A.'s grandmother had even been a Smith by birth until a couple of years ago. I doubt my father even knew who his father's family was or their names - because my father's father died in 1924 - when my father was only seven years old. So, when I was sent this census record this morning for the McCoy family - wife; Hannah was a Smith by birth (Well, really - her mother gave birth to quite a few children; whose father was a Pleas Beard - married man with a family of his own. Hannah McCoy was actually a Beard by birth - but, that is a great story all in itself. When Pleas' wife died; he then married Hannah's mother; Nancy - which was a sister to my ELiza Jane Smith Moore. Confused yet?) Anyway.............I did some more research and it appears that the McCoys were in Arkansas for the zinc mine work: 02 June 1900 Marion Co., Arkansas census, De Soto Township: MCCOY, Abraham L. head W M Dec 1866 33 md/13 yrs MO TN TN day laborer #30/30 Hannah L. wife W F Dec 1865 34 md/13 yrs 6/6 MO UNK TN (Smith/Beard by birth) Nellie J. daughter W F Dec 1888 11 single MO MO MO (married Jefferies) Thos Guy son W M Mch 1890 10 single MO MO MO at school Florida daughter W F Jan 1892 8 single MO MO MO at school Floyd son W M Jan 1892 8 single MO MO MO at school Oscar son W M April 1896 4 single MO MO MO George I. son W M Oct 1898 1 single AR MO MO LILES, Bert boarder W M March 1879 21 single IN IN IN day laborer MCNALL, William S. boarder W M March 1866 34 single IA NY NY day laborer 21 April 1910 Marion Co., Arkansas census, Jefferson Township, Silver Hollow mining camp: MCCOY, Abraham L. head M W 44 md/1 22 yrs MO AL KY 44 miner, zinc mine #67/68 Hannah L. wife F W md/1 22 yrs 44 7/7 MO MO TN Nellie J. daughter F W 21 single MO MO MO teacher, public school Thomas G. son M W 20 single MO MO MO miner, zinc mine Florida daughter F W 18 single MO MO MO Floyd son M W 18 single MO MO MO miner, zinc mine Osker son M W 14 single MO MO MO George I. son M W 11 AR MO MO John E. son M W 8 AR MO MO Abraham McCoy is evidently deceased by 1920 and Hannah Smith (Beard) McCoy is living with daughter; Nellie - now married to a Jefferies Judging from the birth of the Jefferies children - I would say that Nellie was married in Laclede Co. circa 1915. But, did Abraham McCoy died in Marion Co., ARkansas or Laclede Co., Missouri? Possiblity that he knew he was dying and moved his family back to Missouri? Mining work, I bet sure shortened a man's life span. 1920 Laclede Co., Missouri census, Lebanon Township, north & west RR: JEFFERIES, Zebadee head M W 31 married MO MO MO #144/144 Nellie wife F W 31 married MO MO MO Raymond son M W 4 8/12 single MO MO MO Ralph son M W 2 3/12 single MO MO MO Virtrice daighter F W 5/12 single MO MO MO MCCOY, Hannah mother-in-law F W 54 widow MO UN MO Guy brother-in-law M W 29 single MO MO MO John brother-in-law M E 18 single AR MO MO So, I suppose I was wanting to see just how close in proximity that the two Smith clans of mine were living - maternal and paternal Smith lines - in Arkansas It sure has crossed my mind that the two lines are kin. Whether Mother and L. A. were even aware of it (if they were?), I don't know - but, with Joe Smith being buried there in Lebanon - it sure makes me wonder. Did any of that come out clearly, Peggy? Bernie Moore-Knowles Phoenix, Arizona - Papa'aloa, Hawai'i "I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to question my honesty." ........Will Rogers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Truesdell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [ARBAXTER] Smiths in 1900 Marion Co. - question (Bernie) > What is this -- this morning -- the Pepsi Challenge? Just kidding, you know. > > In book, "History of Marion County," don't find DeSoto in "Post Offices and Postmasters." My book is not indexed so can't readily find DeSoto. > > But have map, Rand McNally "Standard Map of Arkansas," with townships. DeSoto Township is on south border of MCAR with Searcy County. It borders Tomahawk and Maumee Townships in Searcy County. The Buffalo River runs through DeSoto, Maumee and Tomahawk Townships. > > In Marion County, Jefferson Township is just east of DeSoto Township -- then Big Creek Township is between Jefferson Township and the border of Baxter County which is Matney County. So, DeSoto Township is not too far west of the corner where Searcy, Stone, Baxter, and Marion Counties meet. > > Now, in the 1900 census you posted -- which one is (ones are) your SMITHs? > > Peggy > > > ==== ARBAXTER Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Baxter Co., AR list, send only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest List > to [email protected] > Arkansas Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~arcemete/arcem.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Don Ott? I am not sure which list that you are observing; but I have a question for you concerning Marion Co. geography. I was sent a 1900 census record for some of my father's Smith families and they are living in De Sotao Township. Do you have any background on this area? 02 June 1900 Marion Co., Arkansas census, De Soto Township: MCCOY, Abraham L. head W M Dec 1866 33 md/13 yrs MO TN TN day laborer #30/30 Hannah L. wife W F Dec 1865 34 md/13 yrs 6/6 MO UNK TN Nellie J. daughter W F Dec 1898 11 single MO MO MO Thos Guy son W M Mch 1890 10 single MO MO MO at school Florida daughter W F Jan 1892 8 single MO MO MO at school Floyd son W M Jan 1892 8 single MO MO MO at school Oscar son W M April 1896 4 single MO MO MO George I. son W M Oct 1898 1 single AR MO MO LILES, Bert boarder W M March 1879 21 single IN IN IN day laborer MCNALL, William S. boarder W M March 1866 34 single IA NY NY day laborer The family migrated from Laclede Co., Missouri and at this point, do not know if they stayed there or moved on. But, I find this interesting, in the fact that my mother was a Smith and her Smiths were from around Barren Creek - early Marion Co. Can you or Peggy shed any light? Was this area near Sugar Loaf? Wasn't that zinc mining? Appreciate any impute from anyone? Bernie Moore-Knowles Phoenix, Arizona - Papa'aloa, Hawai'i "I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
Bernie, believe John AKIN and wife Caroline in 1880 Sugar Loaf, MCAR census, are parents of Monroe (b. 1861) and William (b. 1858), husband of Josephine COKER. Information [MCAR site] submitted by: Melinda PENNINGTON P.O. Box 326 Barnhart, MO 63012 [email protected] In addition to above 1880 census, she lists 1880 census, James Creek Township, MCAR: William R. AKIN, 20, s-son, b. AR / TN / MO John E. AKIN, 19, s-son, b. AR / TN / MO Lee M. AKIN, 16, s-son, b. AR / TN / MO [I had John & Caroline census in my file but did not look up this last census before sending this post.] Melinda included obituary for Loranzy AKIN (died at age 87 on 12 January 1972 in Norman, OK). He was born MCAR. Son: Floyd, OK City; two daughters, Nell PENNINGTON and Mildred TRAD [suppose that's TREAT ?], both of OK City; brothers, W. L., of Little Rock, and Jim of Gentry, AR. LAND RECORDS - Arkansas: John E. AKIN, Marion Co., AR, Section 20-T20N-R16W; 160 acres - 11 May 1900. Tobitha AKIN, Marion Co., AR, Section 22-T19N-R17W; 160 acres - 27 December 1895. John H. AKIN, Marion Co., AR, Section 22-T20N-R18W; 40 acres - 15 November 1854 - and same 40 acres on 1 June 1860; and 160 acres - 15 May 1877. Robert F. AKIN, Marion Co., AR, Section 23-T20N-R18W; 160 acres - 10 May 1882. ***** FUNERAL HANDOUT: In Memory of Nell Irene {AKIN} PENNINGTON Date of Birth: 20 September 1909 Date of Death: 23 February 1994 Place and Time of Services: Monday, 28 February 1994 - 10:00 a.m., Resthaven Chapel Place of Internment: Resthaven Cemetery Place of Birth: Centerton, Marion County, Arkansas Faith: Baptist Survivors: Son, Johnny; Brother, Floyd; Sister, Mildred; four grandchildren; eight nieces and nephews. Psalms 23 (printed) ***** Now, you know 'bout as much as I do. LOL Peggy
Bernie, yes it "appears" to me that the father of brothers William and Monroe fit into the AKINS family. They were, early on, in same approximate area (MCAR). Peggy
Ella GILLEY, b. abt. 1875, was daughter of Martha COKER and James GILLEY. Peggy
Vera, perhaps this will help a bit. Joseph Andrew CLEM (4 October 1869, Yellville, Marion, AR - 20 October 1908, Boswell, Izard, AR) m. 27 January 1887 at Yellville, Marion, AR, to Elizabeth Adeline TABOR, b. 6 March 1870, Marion County, AR - 4 October 1954, Bald Knob, White, AR) -- so that's her! << Is this the Elizabeth Tabor Clem listed above??? Patton Cemetery Marion County, AR Clem, Eliza Tabor 6 Mar 1870 - 4 Oct 1954 >> Thank you, Vera. I'm digesting the other information. Think I should call it a night, because if I get too tired, can't sleep. Peggy
Joseph Andrew CLEM married daughter of Seborn TABOR and Martha CASTEEL -- Elizabeth Adeline TABOR. Is this the Elizabeth Tabor Clem listed above??? Patton Cemetery Marion County, AR Clem, Eliza Tabor 6 Mar 1870 - 4 Oct 1954 > William Madison CLEM married Elizabeth Zarina WOLF; . Clem, W. M. 20 m. 20 Dec 1891 Marion County Ella Gilley 16 both of Hampton Clem, W. M. 24 m. 28 Nov 1895 Marion County Lizzie Wolf 23 both of Georges Creek > Don't have additional information for Thomas B. CLEM. Clem, T. B. 22 of Georges Creek m. 19 Sep 1897 Marion County Millie Wolf 18 of Bruno
Bernie, follow you real well to this point. I show her as Mary J. CASTEEL -- 1880 census - Hampton, Marion County, Arkansas, Page 42A Francis M. CASEY, 34 (b. abt. 1846), AR / TN / SC Mary J. CASEY, 35, TN / TN / TN Mary J. CASEY, dau, 6, b. TX / AR / AR Frances L. CASEY, dau,4, TX / AR / AR [Francis Marion CASEY first married Nancy ANGEL (1856 - 1878), daughter of Elizabeth WARD and James ANGEL, on 10 July 1870, Boone County, AR -- so above are their daughters] Joseph A. CLEM, SSon, 10, AR / TN / TN William M. CLEM, SSon, 8, AR/ TN / TN Thomas B. CLEM, SSon, 5, AR / TN / TN ***** William Madison CLEM married Elizabeth Zarina WOLF; they lived and died at Shawnee, Pottatwatomie County, OK. Joseph Andrew CLEM married daughter of Seborn TABOR and Martha CASTEEL -- Elizabeth Adeline TABOR. Don't have additional information for Thomas B. CLEM. [You probably have this -- knowing you as I do.] ***** Bernie, I haven't done the math, but question marriage of Francis Marion CASEY (above) to Martha Ann CASTEEL. You show married before 1865 -- but born in 1853, he's too young! I haven't looked at time frame of Martha's two marriages to be sure marriage to CASEY fits. Just wanted to call this to your attention. Peggy
Peggy Did find Charlie Jordan in 1860 and how I missed him before is a wonder; as he was just a few households from my Sarah Jane Smothers and her David Jourdan husband. 21 July 1860 Marion Co., Arkansas census, Baren Creek Township: JOURDAN, Charles A. 31 M W farmer 250/500 AR #821 Nancy J. 34 F W AR James 8 M W AR Joseph R. 6 M W AR John D. 4 M W AR William A. 1 M W AR In the 1870 census for this family - there was a child that I couldn't quite make out the spelling of the name. Thought it was Cookson? It appears that this child was named for the Coopson family that was living next door to the Charles Jordan family in 1860. Think she was a mid-wife and they named the son for her surname or a family connection? And there is another Akin! 21 July 1860 Marion Co., Arkansas census, Baren Creek Township: COOPSON, Mariah A. 22 F W AL #822 Avarilla J. 4 F W AR AKIN, James R. 16 M W AR Uraley (?) C. 14 F W AR I am almost sure that Mariah was born in AL and not AR. Remember that Charlie Jordan had a daughter in the 1850 census named Maria - but, she was born in 1850. Think this Mariah might be a Jordan by birth. Charlie names his daughter after his sister? What do you think? Bernie Moore-Knowles Phoenix, Arizona - Papa'aloa, Hawai'i "I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
Bernie, in 1880 census, found Monroe AKIN enumerated two times -- believe it's same one. The other is in this household: 1880 Census - Sugar Loaf, Marion County, Arkansas Page 17B William AKIN, Self, 22, AR / TN / TN Josephine, Wife, 21, AR / AR / AR Mary J. AKIN, Dau, AR Nancy C. AKIN, Dau, 9M, AR Monroe AKIN, Brother, Single, 19, AR / TN / TN ***** Boone County, Arkansas Early Marriages, Book A, 1867 - 1877: William AIKIN, 21 -and- Josephine COKER, 28, Date: 5 March 1876 ***** Of course, you know Marion and Boone County borders changed back and forth a few times. Peggy
Peggy There is an Aiken household living right next door to the Charlie Jordan household (brother to Mary Napier in 1850) in the 1870 Marion Co., census - in Barren Creek. For the life of me, I can not make out the given name. James, maybe? (Pick up the new glasses in the morning!) Bernie Moore-Knowles Phoenix, Arizona - Papa'aloa, Hawai'i "I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
This picture was sent to my Grandmother King by her daughter, Cleora ROBERTSON, with note: "Early years where Great-grandpa, others, worshipped. Primitive Baptist Church. Great-grandpa's funeral held here July 1917." (in picture) Mr. Osborne; Cleora; Mrs. Tom Knight; Mrs. Jones; Mr. Jones; Brewer Robertson; Mrs. Faucett; Mrs. John Smith (Preacher; Mrs. "One-arm" Smith. All are standing to left of a tree. Two unidentified women are to the right of the tree. Mrs. Tom Knight (nee Lou Ann SMITH). Mrs. Jones / Mr. Jones -- probably son of George Washington Jones, with his wife. Brewer = Theodore Brewer "T. B." ROBERTSON. I'm not familiar with Mrs. FAUCETT. I described this picture to Stella JACKSON years ago -- over the telephone -- and she thought these SMITHs were hers. Bernie, as far as I know, hers weren't related to yours. I have information on her family. Believe Salem Church was at or near Shady Grove, according to my gggrandfather's narrative. Peggy
Peggy Looks like maybe the Akins brothers' father might have been a brother to the Akins that married the Casteel women? Did that make sense? Bernie Moore-Knowles Phoenix, Arizona - Papa'aloa, Hawai'i "I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
Baxter County history book - picture on page 72 with caption: "Sunday afternoon get-together of Buford young folks. Sitting, front row, from left: Joe Eubanks Jess Eubanks Ernest Nelson Van Nelson Silas Lemon Henry Erwin Charlie Hopper Jim Eubanks Bob Nelson Everett Lemon Unknown Bob Roberts "Cotton" Hayes Lon Lovelady Back row: Alma Erwin Pearl Bagwell Emma Knight Unknown Zane Covington [if this is female -- Dane / Daine ?] Linnie Bagwell Florence Hopper Annie Knight Mrs. J. E. Eubank Pearl Eubank Bryan Eubank Mrs. Sallie Jordan ***** Peggy
Baxter County history book - picture on page 73 with caption: The Jordan Family of Buford. From left to right, back row: Bob Jordan, holding his grandson, Hobart Pitchford; Argie Jordan Knight; Rose Hopper; John Pitchford; Sam Jackson and Vin Erwin. Second row: Grandma Bettis; Mollie Jordan; Cornelia Lovelady; Mrs. John Pitchford; Annie Jackson and baby; Mrs. Vin Erwin and baby. On the bottom row are grandchildren of Bob Jordan. Two boys to the far left are Ray and Roy Jordan." Peggy