Robin, Don't despair! A distant cousin in San Francisco and I searched all over for the birth of a Clement Richardson, son of Angelina Apps alias Barnes alias Richardson. I eventually found a register for the Rye, Sussex, Workhouse and there he was Clement Apps the son of Jemima Apps! Why weren't we looking for that all the time. We believe that Angelina and Jemima Apps were one and the same person. Clement was baptised on the same day as Angelina was buried. But that's another story. Don't give up. The 1901 census may shed some light, less than a month to go before it comes on-line. Talking of Apps - which was my mother's surname - another distant Apps cousin has sent me some Melbourne, Victoria, Australia register extracts which shows the family of William George Apps and Mary Ann Killick. They were married in 1857 and I believe had a family as follows William James Apps b. 1858 Coll'wood d. 1861 Melbourne Mary Margaret Apps b. 1860 Fitzroy m. 1884 to Frank Usher Edward Thomas b. 1861 m. 1881 Jane Tyrie 4 children Sarah Ann Apps b. 1863 Collingwood William George b. 1865 Fitz. d. 1866 Fitz. Arthur Apps b. 1866 Fitz. Alfred Apps b. 1868 C'wood d. 1869 Fitz. George William Apps b. 1869 Rachel Apps b. 1870 d. 1871 Bertha Amelia Apps b. 1872 Walter Montgomery Apps b. 1873 d 1874 Eliza Apps b.1876 d. 1874 Infant mortality rate looks quite high, I don't know if that was common in Australia at that time. Does anyone know of either the parents I am interested in both names! Best Regards, Clive Killick 7 Goodliffe Gardens, Tilehurst, Reading RG31 6FZ. England ckillick@waitrose.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin VanBelleghem" <robinvb2001@yahoo.co.uk> To: <KILLICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:48 PM Subject: [Killick] Nothing Again > Well folks, I went to the LDS history library today > and again found nothing on my Killick family. I have > to say though that there is definitly no record of the > birth dates I have for my Killicks, so either I have > christening dates or my family was not registered on > the GRO index. I have heard that I can order the > Lambeth Union workhouse film at the LDS library but it > doesn't seem to have what I need. > Well I am still quite certain that my family somehow > fits in with that Henry and Mary I have from the 1891 > census index for Waterloo Road 1st & 2nd sub-district, > where ever that is. My assumption is that it is close > to the Lambeth Union Workhouse. > Does anyone happen to know anything about that Henry > Killick age 39 in 1891 and his wife Mary age 36 in > 1891? Maybe if I checked them out I may be able to go > from there. I know this is grasping at straws but I do > not know what else to do. > > Thanks > Robin > > ________________________________________________________________ > Nokia 5510 looks weird sounds great. > Go to http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/nokia/ discover and win it! > The competition ends 16 th of December 2001. >

I have purchased a disc with the Paylists of the Sussex Sea Fencibles in 1805. Sea Fencibles were the equivalent of today's Naval Reservists. There were five Apps listed: APPS, Edmund, Port of Rye Available for duty Jan, Feb, May, Jun, Aug, Sep PRO Ref ADM 28/46 APPS, Edward, Port of Hastings Available for duty Jan, Apr, May, Jun, July, Dec PRO Ref ADM 28/46 APPS, Edward, Port of Rye Available for duty Jan, Mar, July, Sep, Nov, Dec PRO Ref ADM 28/46 APPS, John, Port of Selsey Available for duty Jan, Feb, Mar, May, Aug, Oct, Nov PRO Ref ADM 28/49 & 50 APPS, William, Port of Selsey Available for duty Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, Nov PRO Ref ADM 28/49 & 50 PRO = Public Record Office, Kew, London Hope this is use to someone. Best Regards Clive Killick Purley-on-Thames, Reading, Berkshire, UK

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IIB.2ACEB/5.39.42 Message Board Post: Syl Apps grandfather was Charles Overy Apps, born in East Susex England in the 1830's, There were 5 bothers, William, Charles, Thomas, Alfred & Albert. William came to Canada with Charles in the 1850's. Thomas died at age 15 and is buried in East Sussex. Alfred lived in London, and I have the name of his children (no James). Albert stayed on the family farm, and I have names of his children too. There is no James Apps in the family tree - not back to the late 1700's anyhow. Mary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IIB.2ACEB/5.8.19.34 Message Board Post: Syl Apps's family came from East Sussex, England in the 1850's to Ontario, Canada - two brothers. None of them went to New York.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IIB.2ACEB/43.2 Message Board Post: Charles & William were the two APPS brothers who left Sussex England in the 1857's, settling in Brant Co., Ontario, Canada. This is also my line - email me!!!!!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IIB.2ACEB/1.2.3.27.29.1 Message Board Post: HI Terry.Your husband must be my Second cousin.Uncle George was a great guy.I remmenber how much will power he had .He fought back against the stroke he had late in his life And was abel to use his handand walk alittle. Great grand pa John is buried in Medina N.Y.The Apps family as far as i know still lives there.My dad and i visited there in the early 70's. We visited uncle willams side of the family.Ionly saw him that time.I can't remmeber his wife's name ,but the boy's name's are gary and bill.Bill was in the navy at that time and home on leave.Gary was in college studing to be a botenist.Gary came to Kallamazoo Area After college and worked as a sale's man in the horticultural industry. ON our visit we went to the grave site,s of gr.grangd pa john and other's As i remmeber the story of how he died, Gr.John was working on a carbon ark street light in medina.he was changing the carbon element's in a lite rain.it arked and he was electicuted.He took a hard fall off the ladder he was on.He was said to have survived the shock and made it back home ,but latter that night he died. Medina N.Y. Is the only place where the Orange-Apple River flow's beneath the Erie Cannal.Well it's good too hear from you.I hope you will e-mail me from time to time. Your's Steve & Carol Apps

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IIB.2ACEB/1.2.3.27.29 Message Board Post: My husband's grandfather was George Apps. John Leroy is buried in Butterfield. His father is according to our understanding buried in NY state. Don't know where. Am look ing for him too. Wonder if not in the western side of the state, since they worked on the Erie Canal.

Len, I think Willersham should be Wittersham. It is only a few miles north and a little west of Rye, on the Isle of Oxney. I have the following noted: Descendants of George Apps Generation No. 1 1. GEORGE APPS was born Bef. 1793. He married SARAH [APPS]. She was born Bef. 1795. Child of GEORGE APPS and SARAH [APPS] is: 2. i. WILLIAM APPS, b. c. 9 Aug 1811, Wittersham, KEN. Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM APPS (GEORGE) was born c. 9 Aug 1811(see note below) in Wittersham, KEN. More About WILLIAM APPS: Baptism: Wittersham, KEN Occupation: 1851, Grocer, aged 39 of Landgate, Rye, SSX. He is noted as being Married, but there is no reference to his wife in the Census. (Landgate is a street, running down from the Landgate which is the only remaining gateway from the time when Rye was surrounded by a town wall - It was also the name of my House at School. I went to Secondary School in Rye) Child of WILLIAM APPS is: i. SARAH APPS, b. c. 1835, Brookland, KEN. More About SARAH APPS: Occupation: 1851, Milliner, aged 16. I am very doubtful about the accuracy of William's date of Birth, I think it is his baptism, not his birth date. That needs checking. There is a James Sellman in the 1851 Census for Rye. Sellman, James Son of John (Age 48, Farmer, on the Winchelsea Road, Rye, SSX, of 55 acres, Born Playden) and Charlotte (Age 40 born Playden) Can't find someone to fit the 1881 Census but there is: Dwelling: King Street Census Place: Rye, Sussex, England Source: FHL Film 1341241 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1017 Folio 87 Page 2 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William APPS M 69 M Willersham, Sussex, England Rel: Head Occ: Grocer Charlotte APPS M 70 F Playden, Sussex, England Rel: Wife Anna SELLMAN U 24 F Rye, Sussex, England Rel: Grand Dau I don't know where King St is in Rye. If you need to see if it still exists try a search on www.multimap.com Hope this is of use. Best Regards Clive Killick In a very 'hot and sticky' Purley-on-Thames, Reading, Berkshire, UK and it still is, now, at half past nine in the evening!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len Rogers" <lenrogers@telus.net> To: <SFHG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 8:12 PM Subject: [SFHG] Sellman/Apps > Hi Listers, > I need help in researching the following. Any information > will be greatly appreciated. > 1851 census list Charlotte Sellman WI Born Playden > SSX 1811 > > 1891 census James Sellman M Born Rye SSX 1835 > (No record of wife) > Anna Sellman D Born Rye SSX 1856 > > 1851 census list > William Apps M Born Willersham KEN 1812 > (No record of wife) > Sarah Apps D Born Brookland KEN 1845 > > I have checked Roots BMD list and found nothing > except two Sarah Apps marriages, one Dec 1869 > and the other Sept 1886. Both took place in Rye > Sussex. I could not find any record of births or > deaths of either, so I do not know if both or either > is the same Sarah as above on the 1851 census > list. > Kindest Regards > Len From sunny B.C. Canada > > ______________________________

I have very little info on the Apps Family as yet. We believe James Apps b 1857 Bearsted, Kent married Emma Holdstock b. 1862 Harrietsham, Kent. We have been told his father was Samuel but have not confirmed it yet. Emma and 9 children came to Canada in the early 1900's. If I get any more info I will let you know. Barbara

I too am surching for APPS and I had an Uncle Charles, who is deceased. I also have a Uncle William. Both were born in British Columbia, Canada. They had sisters by the name of Lorna, Joan and Vera who was my Mom. If this ties into what you have email me at: DJAMR2@aol.com

I think I may be able to help. There are some Apps, from the Brede, Sussex, England Apps family buried at Paris, Ontario. Do these 'fit'? Descendants of William Apps Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM5 APPS (EDMUND4, EDWARD3, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born c. 1811 in Udimore, SSX, and died 1879. He married HARRIETT OVERY 17 May 1833 in Ewhurst, SSX, daughter of CHARLES OVERY and MARY [OVERY]. She was born 1807 in St Leonards, SSX, and died 1879. Notes for WILLIAM APPS: Address's: 1835 Battle 1851 Oldhole Farm House, Brightling, SSX More About WILLIAM APPS: Baptism: 17 Apr 1811, Brede, SSX Occupation: Jan 1835, Farmer of Battle Occupation (2): 1851, Farmer Children of WILLIAM APPS and HARRIETT OVERY are: i. WILLIAM6 APPS, b. 5 Dec 1834, Battle, SSX; d. 1911, Apps Mills, ONT, CDN; m. JESSIE CARLISLE, 18 Aug 1864; b. 17 Sep 1837, Ecclefechan, DUM; d. 7 Jan 1916, Apps Mills, ONT, CDN. Notes for WILLIAM APPS: Christened: 25 January 1835 at Hastings, Wesleyan Methodist (IGI) Assumed born in the previous year More About WILLIAM APPS: Baptism: 25 Jan 1835, Hastings Wesleyan Methodist, SSX Bur: 1911, Paris Pioneer Cemetery, ONT Occupation: 1871, Miller, aged 36, in Brant, ONT, CDN Other: Emigrated to Canada, Grist Miller, Apps Mills, Brantford, ONT, CDN More About JESSIE CARLISLE: Bur: 1916, Paris Pioneer Cemetery, ONT ii. CHARLES OVERY APPS, b. 9 May 1836, Battle, SSX; d. 10 May 1889; m. CHARLOTTE SUSAN GURNEY, 1859; b. 1840; d. 1924. More About CHARLES OVERY APPS: Baptism: 12 Jun 1836, Hastings Wesleyan Methodist, SSX Bur: Mt Pleasant Pioneer, Brant Co, ONT, CDN Occupation: 1871, Miller, aged 34, in Brant, ONT, CDN Other: Emigrated to Canada, Grist Miller, Apps Mills, Brantford, ONT, CDN iii. ALFRED APPS, b. 1839, Battle, SSX; d. 1913; m. (1) ELIZABETH RAND OVERY, c. 1865; b. 1843; d. 1868; m. (2) ELIZA [APPS], Bet. 1868 - 1873; b. Bef. 1858. Notes for ALFRED APPS: Birth ref: Battle 7 218 JAS 1839 More About ALFRED APPS: Occupation: 'Scientist' in the Strand, London, MDX Other: 'Scientist' in Strand, LON iv. THOMAS APPS, b. 1839, Battle, SSX; d. 1853. v. ALBERT APPS, b. 1842, Brenchley, KEN; d. 23 Jul 1912, Wood Place, Whatlington, SSX; m. (1) ELIZA ANN WELFEAR, c. 1868; b. 1842, East Peckham, KEN; d. 1890; m. (2) MARY [APPS], Aft. 1890; b. 1848; d. 1937. More About ALBERT APPS: Educ: 1851, Scholar, aged 9 Occupation: 1871, Farmer of 250 acres, aged 29 Occupation (2): 1881, Farmer, empl 4 servants, 7 men & 3 boys, age 39 Other: Will exists, estate £983. All locations without a country are United Kingdom. Counties are based on the 'Chapman' County Codes. SSX Sussex, England KEN Kent, England DUM Dumfriesshire, Scotland If you need to locate Brede, go to www.multimap.com and search for Brede. Udimore is to the East of Brede, Ewhurst to the North West. My mother was Jean Apps, being born and living most of her life in Brede. I left when I was 17, but have maintained ties ever since. Hope this is of use, there is more. Just ask! Best Regards Clive Killick Purley-on-Thames, Reading, Berkshire, UK

Posted on: APPS Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/a/p/APPS/queries/2 Surname: Apps, Bramhall, Masters, Ketelhut, Neuhauser ------------------------- Hi, I am searching for information on the Apps family right now. My family lives in the Detroit Michigan area and I have traced them back to Paris Ontario. I am currently searching for Charles and William Apps.

Greetings, I am actually researching my father's family name, but my mother's family name was Apps. They were from New England. Her father's name was Charles and her mother's name was Beatrice (Dupre). Anyone have any connections? Norm