G FISH wrote: > Ivy, > Right now the only Applegate reference that I have of any worth is the > Salter Book on the History of Monmouth County. It was written in the 1890's > and was researched pretty good. I also have the books on Lakewood, Seaside > Park and Toms River. > There were so many Applegates with the same names in Ocean County that my > grandmother did extensive research when she named my mother and finally > named her Vesta. It is a pretty name yet very uuncommon. > > Was the stuff I sent you of any use? > > One of our ancestors was in the Rev. and was captured. He was put on an > English prison ship in the NY Harbor and he escaped from it. Also, Thomas > Applegate moved from Mass to Gravesend, Long Island. He had a farm there > and was one of the first settles of that area before moving to NJ, Monmouth > Co. > There is an Applegate Street in Gravesend. > Have you been able to establish your NJ connection? > > G>< > > -----Original Message----- > From: applegate-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:applegate-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Fenske51@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:26 PM > To: applegate@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [APPLEGATE] John E. Applegate > > Hi Gordy, > When I do my genealogy, I always ask them not to send to like rootsweb or > anything. > one time a man did, and he had the wrong information, and I emailed him, > and > he got mad at me, > so I never sent him anything again, and I told him, where in the heck did > he > get that stuff, sometimes, people just want to be a big shot or something, > and put stuff on the web, and it can be trouble > so I know there is a relation because just the name of Applegate is the > same > word. > The information was sent to me, this Applegate boy, was riding the pony > express trail for the mail, back in later 1800s, early 1900s, and saw my > great > aunt, beautiful young girl age 17, and married her soon. > The Applegate Trail is well known in California, for keywords, > type in Applegate Trail, for California, and see what can come up, I have > never done that, > but the trail was named after them. > I do not recognize the names you gave me, but the surname, has got to be > connected. > talk to you later > Happy Christmas or I say Merry Christmas, > thanks > Ivy > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Recently about 12,000 pages of records of the Dutch Colony of New Netherlands are in the process of translation. Russell Shorto published a very good book taking a lot of information from the records, called The Island at the Center of the World. Gravesend is part of this colony so is important in understanding the dynamics that Thomas Applegate was part of. It does say quite a bit about Lady Moody who started the movement to Gravesend in her desire for freedom and independence. In the American Colonies there was not much freedom of thought or action except finally in Rhode Island. It appears that Thomas might have moved with her. It is quite evident in the records of Thomas in the other colonies that he was certainly independent and believed in freedom of speech. Somewhere I have the transcribed trial of Thomas for slandering Peter /*Stuyvesant*/ so apparently He was too much even for the tolerant Dutch. It seems that in his quest for freedom Thomas was quite a loud mouth and spent a lot of time in court and some time in stocks.

"apparently He was too much even for the tolerant Dutch. It seems that in his quest for freedom Thomas was quite a loud mouth and spent a lot of time in court and some time in stocks." Ahhhhh, my own private "Black Sheep"!! I LOVE it!! Thanks. Beverly ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > Recently about 12,000 pages of records of the Dutch Colony of New > Netherlands are in the process of translation. Russell Shorto published > a very good book taking a lot of information from the records, called > The Island at the Center of the World. Gravesend is part of this colony > so is important in understanding the dynamics that Thomas Applegate was > part of. It does say quite a bit about Lady Moody who started the > movement to Gravesend in her desire for freedom and independence. In > the American Colonies there was not much freedom of thought or action > except finally in Rhode Island. It appears that Thomas might have moved > with her. It is quite evident in the records of Thomas in the other > colonies that he was certainly independent and believed in freedom of > speech. Somewhere I have the transcribed trial of Thomas for slandering > Peter /*Stuyvesant*/ so apparently He was too much even for the tolerant > Dutch. It seems that in his quest for freedom Thomas was quite a loud > mouth and spent a lot of time in court and some time in stocks. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: > 12/1/2007 12:05 PM > >