Hi Beverly, You are very welcome, hope some of the names are helpful to you. Yes, I live in Ohio Edie Beverly Rutledge wrote: >Thanks! Edie. I appreciate this. I will pull it off and match it up to >what I have....... >I recognize a few of the names! So there is a connection! >Are you in Ohio?? >Beverly > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Edie Suttle" <jsattle9@fuse.net> >To: <APPLEGATE@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 8:13 PM >Subject: [APPLEGATE] Applegate Marriages in Clermont County, Ohio 1800-1850 > > > > >>From the book: " Marriage Records of Clermont County Ohio, 1800-1850" >>Page 4 >>I am assuming that the numbers beside each entry are the marriage record >>number. >> >>3-283 >>Catherine Applegate to Wassim Weaver, 04 JAN 1842, by John Elsberry, JP >> >>5-124 >>Elijah Applegate to Elouisa Degodter, both 21, 16 DEC 1849, by William >>N. Robinson, JP >> >>1-147 >>Gorden Applegate to Nancy Mouring, 25 JAN 1821, by George C. Light, MGMEC >> >>3-150 >>John Applegate to Anna Emery, 02 NOV 1838, by LG Gaines, VDM >> >>4-96 >>Luecretia Applegate to John Erickson, 09 JUN 1847, by Levi Miller, MC >> >>3-144 >>Lydia Applegate to Charles McCoy, 05 JUL 1838, by David Whitecomb, MG >> >>3-157 >>Lydia A. Applegate to James Barnes, 13 SEP 1838, by LG Gaines, VDM >> >>4-47 >>Nelson Applegate to Jane Rain (Wid), 22 MAR 1846, by E. Scofield, Minister >> >>3-320 >>Nelson Applegate to Eliza N. Bredwell, 04 NOV 1841, by Jacob C. Dimmitt, >>MG >> >>4-50 >>Pery Applegate to Sophia Rush, 31 MAY 1846, by E. Scofield, Minister >> >>Hope this list is helpful to those researching Applegate in Clermont >>County Ohio.. Enjoy!! >> >>Edie Suttle, jsattle9@fuse.net >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>-- >>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: >>12/1/2007 12:05 PM >> >> >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Thanks! Edie. I appreciate this. I will pull it off and match it up to what I have....... I recognize a few of the names! So there is a connection! Are you in Ohio?? Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edie Suttle" <jsattle9@fuse.net> To: <APPLEGATE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: [APPLEGATE] Applegate Marriages in Clermont County, Ohio 1800-1850 > From the book: " Marriage Records of Clermont County Ohio, 1800-1850" > Page 4 > I am assuming that the numbers beside each entry are the marriage record > number. > > 3-283 > Catherine Applegate to Wassim Weaver, 04 JAN 1842, by John Elsberry, JP > > 5-124 > Elijah Applegate to Elouisa Degodter, both 21, 16 DEC 1849, by William > N. Robinson, JP > > 1-147 > Gorden Applegate to Nancy Mouring, 25 JAN 1821, by George C. Light, MGMEC > > 3-150 > John Applegate to Anna Emery, 02 NOV 1838, by LG Gaines, VDM > > 4-96 > Luecretia Applegate to John Erickson, 09 JUN 1847, by Levi Miller, MC > > 3-144 > Lydia Applegate to Charles McCoy, 05 JUL 1838, by David Whitecomb, MG > > 3-157 > Lydia A. Applegate to James Barnes, 13 SEP 1838, by LG Gaines, VDM > > 4-47 > Nelson Applegate to Jane Rain (Wid), 22 MAR 1846, by E. Scofield, Minister > > 3-320 > Nelson Applegate to Eliza N. Bredwell, 04 NOV 1841, by Jacob C. Dimmitt, > MG > > 4-50 > Pery Applegate to Sophia Rush, 31 MAY 1846, by E. Scofield, Minister > > Hope this list is helpful to those researching Applegate in Clermont > County Ohio.. Enjoy!! > > Edie Suttle, jsattle9@fuse.net > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: > 12/1/2007 12:05 PM > >

On 17 December 1646, the town council of Gravesend included Tho. Aplegate in the list of those required to keep twenty poles for a fence to be erected between the various lots (Gravesend, 1:9). Thomas failed to keep up his part of the fence. On 13 April 1647, the town council decided to "hyer a man to doe it" and have Thomas chared with the costs (Gravesend, 1:10). Later, in February 1648, Thomas agreed to help fence the common pasture. At Gravesend, both Thomas and Elizabeth were caught up in court cases as they were apparently strong minded and believers in free speech. According to Stillwell, "this brought them (the Applegates) oppressive punishment from their neighbors. But such was the habit of the times. Few or none escaped from conflict of this sort. Their isolated life gave small opportunity on mental development on wholesome and broad lines, and their talk degenerated into gossip of a dangerous, personal nature, readily embellished and circulated over the convivial cup at the tavern. The habit grew in the community till it became customary to air the most petty grievances in court, and the contest savored much of a pastime. So great a nuisance did it became, that the court finally for its own protection, passed a rule laying the expenses of a suit upon the plaintiff in the event of his failure to successfully prosecute his case". 12 Sep 1648":Ambrose London plaintive agt:ye wife of Tho: Aplegate defent in an action of slander for saying his wife did milke her Cowe" "The defent saith yt shee said noe otherwise but as Penellopey Prince tould her yt Ambrose his wife did milke her Cowe" "Rodger Scotte being deposed saith yt being in ye house of Tho: Aplegate hee did heare Pennellopy Prince saye yt ye wife of Ambrose London did milke ye Cowe of Tho: Aplegate" "Tho: Greedye being deposed saith yt Pennellope Prince being att his house hee did heare her saye yt shee and Aplegates Daughter must com as witnesses agat: Ambrose his wife milking Aplegates Coew" "Pennellope Prince being questationed adknowled her faulte in soe speaking and being sorrie her words she spake gave sattisfaction on both sides." source: Gravesend Town Book, vol. 1, Sept 12, 1648. (Note: According to Stout, Claude D., Richard and Penelope Stout : a critical analysis of an important period in American history. Palmyra, Wis.: Tom's Print Shop, 1974?, 50 pgs. Pg. 11. These were the first records of Penelope after her release from the Indian village.) One such reference is the following: (Diggs, The Two Baxters of New Amsterdam, NYG & BR 8, 70). "One Thomas Applegate of Gravesend owned a farm there but seems to have spent much of his leisure in the public stocks on the outside of Lady Moody's door. Scarcely had Stuyvesant returned from Hartford with his suite when Applegate was brought up for trial on a charge of slander. Sergeant Hubbard, who had accompanied George Baxter on several expeditions against the Indians, was 'plaintiff in ye behalf of his wife against Thomas Aplegate in an action of slander in saying ye plaintiff hath but half a wife'. 'Aplegate thee utterly denied that hes ever spake such wordes'. Thus the issue was joined and the Court consisting of George Baxter and his two fellow magistrates, call for the witnesses. Robert Clarke (whose daughter Bridget married Thomas Baxter) being deposed saith that Thomas Aplegate, Sr., being some time at Manhattan, there waiting three days to have ye company of ye said Robert Clarke to ye plantation of Gravesend, on ye way as thee, his wife and said deponent come long, ye said defendant said: ' Heare' said thee, 'ye Governor Stuyvesant hath raved out your daughter for Ensign Baxter, but I hope you will be wiser'. 'Why' said ye depone". Ye defendant replyed saying: 'thee is a beggerly scabb and most of his maintainance he hath in the place we are going to; and when he is there ye Serjant Hubbard hath but half a wife. Ye wife of Mr. Clarke of ye age of 48 being deposed witnesses the same. The defendant being questioned by the Court why and wherefore thee had given forth such slanderous reports and where tree could prove the truth of it, thee answered and said that thee never spoke ye words. Notwithstanding this, the Court directed him to stand att ye Public Post during ye pleasure of ye Court with a paper on his breast mentioning the fact that thee is a notorious slandalous person. 'Now is Open Court hee has confessed ye wrong done her in raising reports and was sorry for it and desired her to remitt it and pass it by; and she did and he gave her thanks'. The magistrates who sat at this trial were George Baxter, Nicholas Stillwell, Sergeant Hubbard, and Robert Clarke, all interested persons. Poor Thomas Applegate did not have a chance; he gave a bond of 500 guilders to speak no more scandal. Furman (Furman, J. P. 1983. Thomas and Elizabeth Applegate of Gravesend. mss.) has analyzed the court cases of Thomas while in Gravesend. He concludes there is some evidence that Driggs overstated both Thomas' offenses and his penalties. The very next record (1650) in this court is another complaint against Mr. Aplegate for slander, charged by Nicholas Stillwell who claimed that he had been maligned since Aplegate stated that if he (Stillwell) paid all his debts, he would have nothing left. On Jan. 8, 1651, he was again before the magistrates, charged by Mrs. Robert Clarke with slander for saying Governor Stuyvesant took bribes. Mr. Robert Clarke, assistant magistrate, testified: Thomas said, 'I cannot have my rights, ye Governor is bribed'; but said hee, 'now the Governor is going in to ye North (to Hartford) and if time would permit, I would goe in to ye North and I would lay him up fast and there I should have justice though I could have none here'. This being at ye same time ye Governor was in Hartford. "Bridget Baxter (Mr. Robert Clarke's daughter) being deposed witnesseth that this Thomas Aplegate, Sr., said in effect as her father above said hath declared. Ye defendant said he never spake any such words. The court therfore do adjudge ye said Aplegate deserves to have his tongue bored through with a read hot iron and to make a public acknowledgment of his great transgression therein, and never to have credit in way of belieff in any testimony or relation and meantime to lye in prison until further order from ye Governor. The above sentence being publicly read in our General Court in ye presence of most of ye inhabitants, ye said Aplegate did then and there publiquely acknowledge and confess he had slandered ye Governor in his untrue charging of him, and took ye blame and ye shame of it upon himself and did humbly request forgiveness of ye said Governor and that ye Court and ye town would intercede for him hoping it would be a warning to him and to others not to offend in like kind". Fortunately for Thomas, he was pardoned by the Governor. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~applegate/ On 06 October 1651, Richard Gibbons filed suit against Thomas for "violateing ye gates belongeing to ye common field" (Gravesend, 1:90). On 09 November 1651, Thom. Aplegat Senior sued William Auldridge for a debt of 9 guilders 7 stivers. William Vowne said he would try to pay the devt in a weeks time "if he can pcure ye money to see it pd." The court ordered Auldridge to pay it in 14 days if Vowne did not pay (Gravesend, 1:92). On the same day, Thomas brought suit against William Goulder for a devt of 35 guilders 10 stivers. Thomas was in trouble again for his fence on 08 January 1651. He failed to maintain it so the town repaired it and charged him for the costs (Gravesend, 1:61). On the same day, son John was at Thomas' house. The court sent for John to pay his fine for breaking of the peace. John refused and told the court to "doe theyer worste" (Gravesend, 1:61). The last reference I have found for Thomas is 15 January 1656 when he appraised the estate of John Morris (Gravesend, 3:445). Thomas' wife, Elizabeth, and sons, Bartholomew, John and Thomas appear as freeholders of land in Gravesend in 1657 (Thompson, B. J. 1962. History of Long Island 3rd ed. 3 vols. 3:117). Thomas Sr. may have died sometime in the years 1656-1657. Those listing his death in 1652 are mistaken. Thomas married Elizabeth (Wall(?)). He purchased land from John Ruckman, one of the 39 original lots into which Gravesend was divided in 1646. On Dec. 29, 1650, he sold half of his farm in Gravesend to Thomas Southard and his wife, Anna Van Salee. He apparently died either late in 1656 or early in 1657 as his wife was listed in the tax records in 1657. Memorial History of the State of New Jersey, Edited by Francis Bazley Lee Volume 1, New York, Lewis Historical Publishing, 1910, Page 719 "He married, February 9, 1648, Elizabeth, daughter of Charles Morgan, magistrate of Gravesend, 1657-63." 8/8/04 - Had not seen this entry before and have no idea where he found his information.pjm hswain@ix.netcom.com Some sources: American Ancestory. Date unknown. v. 8, p. 41. Barnhart, Clarence L., ed. 1954. New Century Cyclopedia of Names. Appleton-Century-Crafts, Inc. New York. v. 1. Bergen, Tennis. 1881. Early Settlers of Kings County. S.W. Greens & Sons Printer, Long Island. Reaney, P.H. 1961. A Dictionary of British Surnames. Routledge and Kegan Paul, London. Salter, Edwin. 1890. Salters History of Monmouth and Ocean Counties N.J. E. Gardner & Son, Bayonne, N.J. Savage, James. 1860. Generalogical Dictionary of New England. Little Brown & Co., Boston. v. 1, p. 60. Scott-Giles, C.W. 1962. Looking at Heraldry. Roy Publishers, New York. reticent@pacbell.net - harling (2002) ...move to the more liberally conducted settlements of Rhode Island, where the name, "Applegats Plaine" was given to their land and which their son, "Bartholomew Appel," then of New Amsterdam, subsequently empowered Henry Timberlake, of Rhode Island, to occupy and which he alluded to, as formerly the property of my, (Appel's), deceased father. By this I [Mr. Stillwell, the author] infer that Bartholomew Appel was the eldest son and heir of Thomas Applegate. From Rhode Isand Thomas Applegate came to the Dutch settlement of New Amsterdam, and, upon the creation of the English town of Gravesend, on Long Island, he became one of its earliest settlers. (Stillwell, "Hist. & Genea. Misc.", vol. iii, pg.2) http://www.horsethief.info/newyork/gravesend.htm The first division of lots at Gravesends was given up owing to the Indian wars, and the settlers took refuge with the Dutch at the fort at New Amersfoort, later known as Flatlands. In 1646 a second division was made, laying out the town into 40 lots. The second division at Gravesend 1 Lady Deborah Moody 14 Thomas Greedy 27 Charles Morgan 2 Sir Henry Moody 15 Thomas Spicer 28 Thomas Morrell 3 James Hubbard 16 Walter Wall 29 John Thomas 4 George Baxter 17 John Cooke 30 Roger Scott 5 John Morrell 18 James Grover 31 Randall Huett 6 Richard Ussell 19 Ambrose London 32 William Compton 7 John Tilton 20 John Rinkman 33 Enium Bennum 8 James Ellis 21 Francis Weeks 34 Samuel Chandler 9 Cornelius Swellinant 22 Ralph Cardell 35 Peter Simpson 10 Edward Browse 23 Robert Pennoyer 36 Thomas Cornwall 11 Richard Stout 24 William Wilkins 37 William Musgrove 12 Thomas Cornish 25 Thomas Applegate 38 Thomas Whitlock 13 George Holmes 26 William Goulding 39 Richard Gibbons 40 Lady Moody

Thomas sold his 15 acre farm on May 5, 1644 and probably left Rhode Island and came to New Amsterdam where he settled briefly at Flushing, Long Island. He was one of the original patentees there receiving a patent on Oct. 10, 1645. (Thompson, B. J. 1962. History of Long Island 3rd ed. 3 vols.). The following is the Charter of the Town of Flushing NY granted by Gov Kieft to the various patentees, some of whom became Monmouth County settlers. "Laws of CHARTER Granted by the Director and Council of New Netherland to the Town Of Flushing. 10 October 1645. [N.Y. Deed Book II,178] Know all men, whom these presents may any wayes concerne, that wee William Kieft, Esq. GovernorGen of the Province called the New Netherlands With ye Councill of State,there Established,by vertue Of a Commission under the hand and Seale of the High and Mighty Lords,the Estates Gen of ye United Belgick Provinces, His Highnesse Frederick Hendrick,Prince of Orange, and the Right Honorable Lords, the Lords Bewint Hebbers, of the West India Company, Have given and graunted, And by vertue Of these presents, do give, graunt and confirm unto Thomas ffarington, John Townsend, Thomas Stiles, Thomas Saull, John Marston, Robert ffield, Thomas Applegate, Thomas Beddard, Laurence Dutch, John Laurence, William Laurence, William Thorne, Henry Sautell, William Pigeon, Michaell Milleard, Robert ffirman, John Hicks, Edward Hart, their heires, Exco Admnt Assignes, Successors or Associates, or any they shall joyne in Associacon with them, a certaine quanity or parcell of Land, with all the Havens, Harbors, Rivers, Creekes, Woodland, Marshes, there unto belonging, and being upon the Northside of Long Island, to begin at ye westward part thereof, at The Mouthe of a Creeke upon the East River, now Comonly called and knowne by the name of fflushing Creeke,and so to runne Eastward, as far as Mathew Garretson's Bay; Together with a Neck of Land Commonly called Tues Neck, being bounded on the Westward part thereof, with the land graunted to Mr Frances Doughty and Associates, and on the Eastward part thereof, with the Land graunted to Ye Plantacon and Towne of Hempsteed and so to rune" ********* The Laws and Ordinances of New Netherland 1638-1674, by E.B. O'Callaghan (on the Cornell MOA site) has the Flushing Charter on pages 48-51. Dated 10 Oct 1645. Patentees were: Thomas Farrington John Townesend Thomas Stiles Thomas Saull John Marston Robert Field Thomas Applegate Thomas Beddard Laurence Dutch John Laurence William Laurence William Thorne Henry Sautell William Pigeon Michaell Milleard Robert Firman John Hicks Edward Hart O'Callaghan in his History of New Netherland vol. I, p. 357, says they "were forced to remove from Massachusetts in the spring of this year". Brodhead in his History of New York vol. I, p. 410 says the patentees were "Engish emigrants". Both reference Thompson's Long Island vol II, pp 67-69, Thomas sold this patent and secured a patent of land on Nassau Island at Gravesend from John Ruckman, one of the original patentees of Gravesend on Nov. 12, 1646 where he apparently remained the rest of his life. (Gravesend, 1:4. Records of the town were transcribed in the early 1900's. The transcripts are in the James A. Kelly Institute for Local Historical Studies, St. Francis College, Brooklyn, New York).

Various experiences were obviously too much for the Applegates and they left the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1640 and went to Rhode Island. There, Thomas appears to have engaged in several real estate endeavors and was identified as a weaver. Thomas was also involved in several Court suits. 5. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~applegate/ Characteristcally, the first data from Rhode Island is of Thomas in court (Chapin, H. M. 1916. Documentary History of Rhode Island. 2 Vols.). He filed suit against John Room(e) of Newport for use of a house on 01 December 1641. In a complicated set of suits, Thomas, Room(e), Nicolas Cotteral and William Heavens sued and countersued each other up to 03 December 1643 (Chapin, pp. 135, 138, 142, 150, 152). According to Rhode Island Colony Records (1:7), the land had been granted to William Heavens by the town council. Heavens, identified as a carpenter, mortgaged the property to Nicholas Cotteral and, with the money, built a house on the lot. Later, Cotteral foreclosed and sold the porperty and house to Thomas. He, in turn, attempted to sell it to George Cozzens. The property apparently is on what is now Aquidneck Avenue, Middletown (then part of Newport). Our next record of Thomas is also a court case (Rhode Island Colony Records, 1:135). A Jermey Gould filed against Thomas. Both are identified as being from Newport. Mr. Coggesdall was appointed as referee and both Thomas and Jermey were ordered to abide by his decision no later than the last day of April, 1642. Neither the cause of the dispute nor the resolution are listed. Edward Browce sold Thomas, identified as a weaver, a four-acre house lot between the lots of George Cleer and Thomas Roberts on 21 January 1643 (Rhode Island Colony Records, 2:3). The same records show that George Gardiner switched lots with Thomas Applegate. The lots are in the region of Newport's main post office - Thames Street at Memorial Boulevard. In the 1650's all these home lots were purchased by Benedict Arnold, the great-grandfather of the traitor. Their separate identities were lost at that time. On 20/21 March 1643, James Rogers sold three parcels of land to Thomas Applegate, weaver (Rhode Island Colony Records, 2:1): 1) Roger's house and lot; 2) a four-acre lot between the lots of Edward Andrews and Michaell Spence; 3) the western half of Roger's "30-acre great lot." On 06 May 1643, Edward Andrews sold to Robert Jefferies two four-acre lots (Rhode Island Colony Records, 2:4). The land north of the lots was described as being owned by Thomas Applegate, weaver. However, Thomas had sold that land to Jefferies nine months earlier. Thomas took time out from his real estate dealings (but not for long) to engage in another court case. On 07 June 1643, William Dyer of Newport filed suit against Thomas Applegate, weaver, of the same town for "detayning of goods to the damage of 40s the D:acknowledged wrong & was injoyned to aske forgiveness of the pl and his wife for wronging of them & so carry back the goods to the Pl. house" (Rhode Island Colony Records, 2:141). On the same page (and probably on or near the same date) Henry Bull filed suit against Thomas for trespass. Applegate was to "Satisfie" the claim by order of the court. A few months later, 20 August 1643, Thomas sold to Robert Jefferies two home lots of four acres each (Rhode Island Colony Records, 2:3). One lot was that sold Thomas on 21 January 1643 by Edward Browce. The other lot, location unknown, was given Thomas by the town. Thomas also held land to the south. It is now known as Price's Neck. By the original deed, William Dyre bought the neck from Thomas Applegate who obtained it by a town grant. On 20 December 1644, Dyre sold it to George Gardiner (Rhode Island Colony Records, 2:5). On 14 December 1652, Gardiner sold it to John Price (hence today's name). Appelgat's Plaine is mentioned in Rhode Island Land Evidence, 1:71. William Dyre was colony secretary and he was one of the men who originally laid out the roads, farms and lots. In 1654, he wrote: An other high-way from the Entrance of Mr. Coggesdalls farme to goe to castle hill and soe leadinge to all the Lands and Comons upon the neck wch way was layd out by us to the Brooke that came down by Apelgates Plaine the rest is not detirmined as yett where to runn - A highway from the Towne layd out of 2 poles wide to wi. Dyres farme and soe to lead to the lands on the north side of the Towne girt the meadows, mr. Coggingtons Cow-pasture the Artillery Garden mr. Clarkes land and Willia Dyres Land soe by mr. Dyres meadow a way into the land that the said Dyre bought of Apelgate to fetch off the wood of that land for the townes use which land was layd forth by Captn Clarke and mr. Robert Jefferays as alsoe byn them was the wood reserved and the way appointed only for that use.

These are every which way but most are the notes I've copied or bits of info I found regarding Thomas and Elizabeth Applegate. 1. The founder of the Applegate Family in America was Thomas Applegate who left Norfolkshire, England and settled in Holland with a group of fellow Englishman during the Puritan disorders. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~applegate/ All traditions say Thomas moved to Holland to escape political or religious persecution. There is no factual evidence for this that I have found. The sole reference to his religious beliefs says he was an adherent of the Church of England (Lewis Historical Publishing Company. 1922. History of Monmouth County, 1664-1920. 3 vols. 3:12). Of his issue, only the religious preference of Bartholomew is known - Church of England (Weeks, L. H. 1912. Genealogy. 2 vols. 1:230). This does not prove he did not suffer religious persecution; it does make it unlikely that he did though. His stay in Holland (if he did go) is said to have been short (Salter, E. 1890. History of Monmouth and Ocean Counties. p. v). Hardeman (Hardeman, M. G. N. 1957. Genealogical Data of the Applegate Family. Film 858665, Church of Jesus Christ of Later-Day Saints. p. 2) quoting Harvey L. Applegate says Thomas left England for Holland about 1625. This date, if true, supports the earlier birth date. It also means he was in Holland no more than 10 years since the ferry license is dated 1635. ***** About 1635, he came to Massachusetts Bay Colony and on Mar. 31, 1635, he was licensed for a year by the General Court to run a ferry between Weymouth and Braintree. However, he lost the license when the canoe he was using as a ferry overturned and several persons were drowned. The following was taken from the official records of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Thomas Aplegate was "licensed on Sept. 2, 1635 to 'keepe a ferry between Wessagascus and Wolliston for which he is to have jd for any persons ii jf a horse"'. Thomas Aplegate was discharged of "keepein a ferry of Waymothe and Henry Kingman lycensed to keep said ferry at the pleasure of the Court". At the Quarter Court held Oct. 14, 1638, it was decided that, "Aplegate wch owned the canooe out of wch the 3 psons were drowned/& it was ordered that no canooe to be used at any ferry upon paine of S' nor no canooe be made in or jurisdiction before the next General Court upon paine of 10"'. Also an order was appointed to be given to Richard Wright to, "have that canooe our of wch these persons were drowned". At the next Court held on March 5, 1639, Willi Blanton, Willi Potter, Robert Thorpe, Henry Neal, John Fitch, and Thomas Aplegate, appearing, were discharged with the admonition not to adventure too many in any boat. However, the record is confusing as Thomas Aplegate's canoe was ordered to be staved in by the court orders making it unusable; then the Court ordered that Thomas be given 29 shillings for his canoe, provided that he returned the arms he had borrowed and that they were in good condition. (Shurtleff, I:249). 2. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~applegate/ In 1641, testimony by George Allen, son of the George Allen who later purchased the land of Thomas, also connects Thomas with a boat: Thomas Rawlins of Weymouth in New England ffisherman aged about 33. yeares sworne upon his oath that in or about Oct last he heard John King of Weymouth seaman undertake unto Thomas Applegate of Weymouth planter to goe in his boate as Master thereof if an other man could be gotten by either of them to goe wth him the said John King to help manage the said boate and they agreed together that the said John King should have his owne parte of the fishe taken by himself in the sd boat freight free & that the said Thomas Applegate should have the 4th penny of freight of goods carryed in the said boate and that if the boate or any goods therein should be miscarryed cast away or hurt by ill ordering or laying of the said boate the said John King should beare the damage thereof and their words & agreement were to this purpose. George Allen of Weymouth in New England planater aged about twenty one yeares sworne saith upon his oath that about the begining of November last one day late wthinnight he was present in the house of John King of Weymouth seaman Master of Thomas Applegates boate & there heard the said John King say to William Newland that he would not stand to the adventure of the goods of the said William Newland laden in the said boate if that one hogshead of salt more of his were put into the same boate, whereto the said Newland answered that not withstanding he would have the said hogshead put into the said boate that night & if the boate were overladen in the morning some of the said goods might be again taken out thereof or words to that purpose and hereupon this deponent wth others did help put in the said hogshead that night into the said boate & in the next morning the boate did not rise but sunke to that side where the said hogshead lay and this deponent knoweth thatrhe said boate did rise well enought one tyde when the resr of the said goods besides the said hogshead were in it (Hale, E. E. 1885. Note-book kept by Thomas Lechford, Esq. Lawyer in Boston, Massachusetts Bay from June 27, 1638 to July 29, 1641. Transactions and Collections of the American Antiquarian Society, 7:215). In a footnote to the above, it is observed that in 1636 Thomas was discharged from keeping the ferry but from later entries, it appeared that Thomas continued until 1638 as owner of the ferry although William Blanten may have actually managed the ferry. Just one day after the sinking, Newland filed suit against Thomas for eight pounds - and won. George Allen testified it was Newland's salt that had been in Thomas' boat and therefore Newland was entitled to damages (Chamberlain, G. W. 1923. History of Weymouth, Massachusetts. 4 Vols. 4:443). The ferry and the Allen family were connected later. George Allen, the purchaser of Thomas' land, came to Weymouth with the Hulls in April 1635. One of his sons, John, was granted land "in the plaine" prior to 1643. This land had originally been given to Thomas (Chamberlain, 3:11). George Jr., another son, complained to the general court "about the ferry at Weymouth" on 10 March 1640. According to Chamberlain (3:14) Thomas' first land was "in the plaine" and then given to John Allen. Later, Thomas was given land "on the west side of Great Pond." Chamberlain goes on to say, without documentation, that Thomas was in Weymouth prior to 1635. He then given another version of the famous/infamous canoe. According to him, John King was the captain when the drowning took place. Besides the passengers, the canoe carried a load of salt that caused the capsizing. The last land record for Thomas in Weymouth is 02 February 1651 when he was given lot 28 on "the east side of Fresh Pond." (Nash, C. G. 1863. Historical Sketch of the Town of Waymouth, Massachusetts) The final item on the land of Thomas is given by Nash, p. 255: The land of John Allin ffive acres on the plaine first granted to Thomas Applegate bounded on the East by a lot of Joseph Shawes on the East & south with on the West by Ralph Allins lot the sea on the north two acres at the same bounded with the sea Eyght acres on the necke the land of Henry Kingman on the East Thomas Holbrooke on the west the common on the north first granted to George Allin Two acres and a quarter twelve rod of meddow in the wester neck first giuen to George Allin bounded on the East with the marsh of Richard Silquester on the west with the marsh of William ffrie the sea on the north the land of Henry Kingman on the south ... In 1641, Joshua Coffin noted that he saw Thomas in Weymouth (Farmer, J. 1964. A Genealogical Register of the First Settlers of New England).

From the book: " Marriage Records of Clermont County Ohio, 1800-1850" Page 4 I am assuming that the numbers beside each entry are the marriage record number. 3-283 Catherine Applegate to Wassim Weaver, 04 JAN 1842, by John Elsberry, JP 5-124 Elijah Applegate to Elouisa Degodter, both 21, 16 DEC 1849, by William N. Robinson, JP 1-147 Gorden Applegate to Nancy Mouring, 25 JAN 1821, by George C. Light, MGMEC 3-150 John Applegate to Anna Emery, 02 NOV 1838, by LG Gaines, VDM 4-96 Luecretia Applegate to John Erickson, 09 JUN 1847, by Levi Miller, MC 3-144 Lydia Applegate to Charles McCoy, 05 JUL 1838, by David Whitecomb, MG 3-157 Lydia A. Applegate to James Barnes, 13 SEP 1838, by LG Gaines, VDM 4-47 Nelson Applegate to Jane Rain (Wid), 22 MAR 1846, by E. Scofield, Minister 3-320 Nelson Applegate to Eliza N. Bredwell, 04 NOV 1841, by Jacob C. Dimmitt, MG 4-50 Pery Applegate to Sophia Rush, 31 MAY 1846, by E. Scofield, Minister Hope this list is helpful to those researching Applegate in Clermont County Ohio.. Enjoy!! Edie Suttle, jsattle9@fuse.net

My husband's Applegates moved back and forth from Jefferson Co., KY to Clermont Co., OH. It has to be the same family. It is believed that Thomas Applegate and his family came to KY in 1781, it is believed that Elisha was the only child born in KY as stated on page 98 of "Louisville, Past and Present; Its Industrial History" His will dated 25 Dec 1806 names wife Mary, sons Samuel, Hezekiah, Benjamin, Tunis, Elijah, and Elisha and daughters Joanna Applegate and Elizabeth Baldwin. My husband descends from Elijah who married Jennie Pharis 19 Apr 1802 in Jefferson Co., KY and is on the 1810 census there. In 1820 they are enumerated in Goshen, Clermont Co. OH and sells his property in Jefferson Co. in 1821. In 1826 he married Elizabeth Bence widow of Michael Leatherman. In 1830 they are back in Clermont Co., OH. and by the 1840 census back in Jefferson Co., OH. Elijah and Jennie have several children I can not account for: a male born between 1802-1804 and died before Feb 1847; 3 males born between 1810-1820 and were all dead by Feb 1847 when Elijah wrote his will. The only deceased child he mentioned was Samuel P. to who he left $1 to the children of my dec'd son Samuel P. Applegate. Samuel P. is the son my husband descends from, he married Judith Rogers 25 Jul 1826 in Bullitt Co., KY. They are on the 1830 Jefferson Co. Census with their two children Harriet Ann b 25 Jan 1829 and John W. b before the 1830 census. At some time this family must have lived in Goshen, Clermont Co. OH for Jacob Reeder to have met Harriet. Jacob Reeder goes to Jefferson Co., KY and marries Harriet Ann 2 Nov 1848 and takes her back to Clermont Co., OH. I cannot locate Samuel P. Applegate on the 1840 census? Does anyone else know where they were. Brenda Reeder ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Rutledge" <bevrutledge@earthlink.net> To: <applegate@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 5:03 AM Subject: [APPLEGATE] Help! >I have appreciated the flurry of activity on the Applegate list serve. It >is always helpful to have a variety of folks giving ideas on new places to >look when you have sort of "hit the wall"!! > > And I am quite sure you are right about the eventual destination of many > Applegate's. Unfortunately, I can't get mine out of Ohio (and Indiana and > one or two in Kentucky))----- > so I am not there yet! > > It is good that you are all leaving me a bread-crumb trail to follow! > I get lost easily! > > Having been the recipient of internet mis-information, Ivy, I can > understand your reluctance to put genealogy information out on the > web-because once it is there-it is THERE!! For all to see. For all to > be confused by!! > > These are the only folks I have verification for: > Descendants of John E. Applegate > > 1 John E. Applegate b: Abt. 1785 d: 1837 in Clermont / Brown County, Ohio > > .. married Adeline Armanda Genoways b: Abt. 1799 in Stamford, Connecticut > m: 22 Nov 1821 in > > Brown County, Ohio d: 1846 in Clermont County, Ohio > > .. 2 William Redin Applegate b: Jul 1826 in Ohio d: 06 Mar 1901 in > Clermont County, Ohio > > ...... married Nancy Fox b: Abt. 1833 in Ohio m: 28 Sep 1846 in Brown > County, Ohio d: in Clermont > > County, Ohio > > .. 2 Adeline Augusta Applegate b: 1829 in Ohio...... married Jonathan > Christey b: 1827 in > > Pennsylvania m: 27 Apr 1851 in Ohio d: 18 Feb 1899 inClermont County, Ohio > > .. 2 John E. Applegate b: 17 Dec 1832 in Ohio d: 26 Mar 1903 in Clermont > County, Ohio > > ...... married Minerva Fox b: Abt. 1831 in Ohio m: 1855 in Brown County, > Ohio d: 1868 in Brown > > County, Ohio > > .. 2 Joseph Martin Applegate b: 02 Feb 1833 in Ohio d: 19 Mar 1902 in > Clermont County, > > Ohio...... married Emily Jane Reddick b: 28 May 1840 in Brown, Ohio m: 23 > Oct 1859 in Sterling Twp, > > Brown County, Ohio d: 13 Jun 1923 in Clermont County, Ohio > > .. 2 Richard Davidson Applegate b: Abt. 1836 in Ohio d: 07 Oct 1869 in > Clermont County, > > Ohio...... married Ann Christey b: Abt. 1842 in Ohio m: Abt. 1860 in Ohio > > > > I have a couple of other generations and would be happy to send them to > anyone who wants it > > ----but these are the only ones for which I have birth/death/marriage > verification for. > > You may contact me directly at > > bevrutledge@earthlink.net > > Thanks! > > Beverly > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: > 12/7/2007 1:11 PM >

Stillwell cites trouble that Elizabeth Applegate, Thomas' wife had in the Massachusetts Bay Colony as follows: "She appears to have been one of the unfortunate persons who suffered from the ecclesiastical tyranny of that Puritanical age, for she was 'censured to stand with her tongue in a cleft stick for swearing, reviling, and railing"'(Boston Court Sept. 6, 1636).

"apparently He was too much even for the tolerant Dutch. It seems that in his quest for freedom Thomas was quite a loud mouth and spent a lot of time in court and some time in stocks." Ahhhhh, my own private "Black Sheep"!! I LOVE it!! Thanks. Beverly ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > Recently about 12,000 pages of records of the Dutch Colony of New > Netherlands are in the process of translation. Russell Shorto published > a very good book taking a lot of information from the records, called > The Island at the Center of the World. Gravesend is part of this colony > so is important in understanding the dynamics that Thomas Applegate was > part of. It does say quite a bit about Lady Moody who started the > movement to Gravesend in her desire for freedom and independence. In > the American Colonies there was not much freedom of thought or action > except finally in Rhode Island. It appears that Thomas might have moved > with her. It is quite evident in the records of Thomas in the other > colonies that he was certainly independent and believed in freedom of > speech. Somewhere I have the transcribed trial of Thomas for slandering > Peter /*Stuyvesant*/ so apparently He was too much even for the tolerant > Dutch. It seems that in his quest for freedom Thomas was quite a loud > mouth and spent a lot of time in court and some time in stocks. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: > 12/1/2007 12:05 PM > >

G FISH wrote: > Ivy, > Right now the only Applegate reference that I have of any worth is the > Salter Book on the History of Monmouth County. It was written in the 1890's > and was researched pretty good. I also have the books on Lakewood, Seaside > Park and Toms River. > There were so many Applegates with the same names in Ocean County that my > grandmother did extensive research when she named my mother and finally > named her Vesta. It is a pretty name yet very uuncommon. > > Was the stuff I sent you of any use? > > One of our ancestors was in the Rev. and was captured. He was put on an > English prison ship in the NY Harbor and he escaped from it. Also, Thomas > Applegate moved from Mass to Gravesend, Long Island. He had a farm there > and was one of the first settles of that area before moving to NJ, Monmouth > Co. > There is an Applegate Street in Gravesend. > Have you been able to establish your NJ connection? > > G>< > > -----Original Message----- > From: applegate-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:applegate-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Fenske51@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:26 PM > To: applegate@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [APPLEGATE] John E. Applegate > > Hi Gordy, > When I do my genealogy, I always ask them not to send to like rootsweb or > anything. > one time a man did, and he had the wrong information, and I emailed him, > and > he got mad at me, > so I never sent him anything again, and I told him, where in the heck did > he > get that stuff, sometimes, people just want to be a big shot or something, > and put stuff on the web, and it can be trouble > so I know there is a relation because just the name of Applegate is the > same > word. > The information was sent to me, this Applegate boy, was riding the pony > express trail for the mail, back in later 1800s, early 1900s, and saw my > great > aunt, beautiful young girl age 17, and married her soon. > The Applegate Trail is well known in California, for keywords, > type in Applegate Trail, for California, and see what can come up, I have > never done that, > but the trail was named after them. > I do not recognize the names you gave me, but the surname, has got to be > connected. > talk to you later > Happy Christmas or I say Merry Christmas, > thanks > Ivy > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Recently about 12,000 pages of records of the Dutch Colony of New Netherlands are in the process of translation. Russell Shorto published a very good book taking a lot of information from the records, called The Island at the Center of the World. Gravesend is part of this colony so is important in understanding the dynamics that Thomas Applegate was part of. It does say quite a bit about Lady Moody who started the movement to Gravesend in her desire for freedom and independence. In the American Colonies there was not much freedom of thought or action except finally in Rhode Island. It appears that Thomas might have moved with her. It is quite evident in the records of Thomas in the other colonies that he was certainly independent and believed in freedom of speech. Somewhere I have the transcribed trial of Thomas for slandering Peter /*Stuyvesant*/ so apparently He was too much even for the tolerant Dutch. It seems that in his quest for freedom Thomas was quite a loud mouth and spent a lot of time in court and some time in stocks.

I have appreciated the flurry of activity on the Applegate list serve. It is always helpful to have a variety of folks giving ideas on new places to look when you have sort of "hit the wall"!! And I am quite sure you are right about the eventual destination of many Applegate's. Unfortunately, I can't get mine out of Ohio (and Indiana and one or two in Kentucky))----- so I am not there yet! It is good that you are all leaving me a bread-crumb trail to follow! I get lost easily! Having been the recipient of internet mis-information, Ivy, I can understand your reluctance to put genealogy information out on the web-because once it is there-it is THERE!! For all to see. For all to be confused by!! These are the only folks I have verification for: Descendants of John E. Applegate 1 John E. Applegate b: Abt. 1785 d: 1837 in Clermont / Brown County, Ohio .. married Adeline Armanda Genoways b: Abt. 1799 in Stamford, Connecticut m: 22 Nov 1821 in Brown County, Ohio d: 1846 in Clermont County, Ohio .. 2 William Redin Applegate b: Jul 1826 in Ohio d: 06 Mar 1901 in Clermont County, Ohio ...... married Nancy Fox b: Abt. 1833 in Ohio m: 28 Sep 1846 in Brown County, Ohio d: in Clermont County, Ohio .. 2 Adeline Augusta Applegate b: 1829 in Ohio...... married Jonathan Christey b: 1827 in Pennsylvania m: 27 Apr 1851 in Ohio d: 18 Feb 1899 inClermont County, Ohio .. 2 John E. Applegate b: 17 Dec 1832 in Ohio d: 26 Mar 1903 in Clermont County, Ohio ...... married Minerva Fox b: Abt. 1831 in Ohio m: 1855 in Brown County, Ohio d: 1868 in Brown County, Ohio .. 2 Joseph Martin Applegate b: 02 Feb 1833 in Ohio d: 19 Mar 1902 in Clermont County, Ohio...... married Emily Jane Reddick b: 28 May 1840 in Brown, Ohio m: 23 Oct 1859 in Sterling Twp, Brown County, Ohio d: 13 Jun 1923 in Clermont County, Ohio .. 2 Richard Davidson Applegate b: Abt. 1836 in Ohio d: 07 Oct 1869 in Clermont County, Ohio...... married Ann Christey b: Abt. 1842 in Ohio m: Abt. 1860 in Ohio I have a couple of other generations and would be happy to send them to anyone who wants it ----but these are the only ones for which I have birth/death/marriage verification for. You may contact me directly at bevrutledge@earthlink.net Thanks! Beverly

Ivy, Right now the only Applegate reference that I have of any worth is the Salter Book on the History of Monmouth County. It was written in the 1890's and was researched pretty good. I also have the books on Lakewood, Seaside Park and Toms River. There were so many Applegates with the same names in Ocean County that my grandmother did extensive research when she named my mother and finally named her Vesta. It is a pretty name yet very uuncommon. Was the stuff I sent you of any use? One of our ancestors was in the Rev. and was captured. He was put on an English prison ship in the NY Harbor and he escaped from it. Also, Thomas Applegate moved from Mass to Gravesend, Long Island. He had a farm there and was one of the first settles of that area before moving to NJ, Monmouth Co. There is an Applegate Street in Gravesend. Have you been able to establish your NJ connection? G>< -----Original Message----- From: applegate-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:applegate-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fenske51@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:26 PM To: applegate@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [APPLEGATE] John E. Applegate Hi Gordy, When I do my genealogy, I always ask them not to send to like rootsweb or anything. one time a man did, and he had the wrong information, and I emailed him, and he got mad at me, so I never sent him anything again, and I told him, where in the heck did he get that stuff, sometimes, people just want to be a big shot or something, and put stuff on the web, and it can be trouble so I know there is a relation because just the name of Applegate is the same word. The information was sent to me, this Applegate boy, was riding the pony express trail for the mail, back in later 1800s, early 1900s, and saw my great aunt, beautiful young girl age 17, and married her soon. The Applegate Trail is well known in California, for keywords, type in Applegate Trail, for California, and see what can come up, I have never done that, but the trail was named after them. I do not recognize the names you gave me, but the surname, has got to be connected. talk to you later Happy Christmas or I say Merry Christmas, thanks Ivy **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G FISH wrote: > Ivy, > Right now the only Applegate reference that I have of any worth is the > Salter Book on the History of Monmouth County. It was written in the 1890's > and was researched pretty good. I also have the books on Lakewood, Seaside > Park and Toms River. > There were so many Applegates with the same names in Ocean County that my > grandmother did extensive research when she named my mother and finally > named her Vesta. It is a pretty name yet very uuncommon. > > Was the stuff I sent you of any use? > > One of our ancestors was in the Rev. and was captured. He was put on an > English prison ship in the NY Harbor and he escaped from it. Also, Thomas > Applegate moved from Mass to Gravesend, Long Island. He had a farm there > and was one of the first settles of that area before moving to NJ, Monmouth > Co. > There is an Applegate Street in Gravesend. > Have you been able to establish your NJ connection? > > G>< > > -----Original Message----- > From: applegate-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:applegate-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Fenske51@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:26 PM > To: applegate@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [APPLEGATE] John E. Applegate > > Hi Gordy, > When I do my genealogy, I always ask them not to send to like rootsweb or > anything. > one time a man did, and he had the wrong information, and I emailed him, > and > he got mad at me, > so I never sent him anything again, and I told him, where in the heck did > he > get that stuff, sometimes, people just want to be a big shot or something, > and put stuff on the web, and it can be trouble > so I know there is a relation because just the name of Applegate is the > same > word. > The information was sent to me, this Applegate boy, was riding the pony > express trail for the mail, back in later 1800s, early 1900s, and saw my > great > aunt, beautiful young girl age 17, and married her soon. > The Applegate Trail is well known in California, for keywords, > type in Applegate Trail, for California, and see what can come up, I have > never done that, > but the trail was named after them. > I do not recognize the names you gave me, but the surname, has got to be > connected. > talk to you later > Happy Christmas or I say Merry Christmas, > thanks > Ivy > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Glad you have Salter's Book. It is hard to find but ebay has it for $150 on up. You will find it plus a whole lot more in Google. Look under misc for books and then type in the author or title or both or as I did just type in History of Monmouth County and you will find all kinds of material. You will see that some books will not let you look at any pages while others will let you see snippets or table of contents. The best are those that let you have full view and those can be downloaded in PDF format and put on CDs for reading. You can print a page at a time of the pertinent information. If you have trouble printing let me know and I will try to help. In short the pages must be printed as pictures. tell Ivy hello. She is a dear. Best. Rod Applegate

Hi Gordy, When I do my genealogy, I always ask them not to send to like rootsweb or anything. one time a man did, and he had the wrong information, and I emailed him, and he got mad at me, so I never sent him anything again, and I told him, where in the heck did he get that stuff, sometimes, people just want to be a big shot or something, and put stuff on the web, and it can be trouble so I know there is a relation because just the name of Applegate is the same word. The information was sent to me, this Applegate boy, was riding the pony express trail for the mail, back in later 1800s, early 1900s, and saw my great aunt, beautiful young girl age 17, and married her soon. The Applegate Trail is well known in California, for keywords, type in Applegate Trail, for California, and see what can come up, I have never done that, but the trail was named after them. I do not recognize the names you gave me, but the surname, has got to be connected. talk to you later Happy Christmas or I say Merry Christmas, thanks Ivy **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

Please don't use any of the names that are above room temperature, I would prefer that this information stay with you and not be sent to any Roots list etc. I am not completely sure of the authenticity of some of the data. Thanks Gordy Fish G>< My applegate line Gordon Hyatt Fish 1937 - Gordon Webster Fish 1917 - 1968 Vesta Mae Applegate 1917 - 2003 Christopher S. Applegate 1890 0 1920 Jacob Applegate 1854-1898 Solomon Applegate 1822 - 1903 -----Original Message----- From: applegate-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:applegate-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Toni Maize Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:45 AM To: applegate@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [APPLEGATE] John E. Applegate Just wondering about your CA Applegate line. I've a Applegate I've been researching for a few years now. Migrated to LA county Los Angeles, died in San Diego. Wonder if he could be one of yours or if you've info on him. Know I'm grasping at straws here but always feel it's worth a try. My Applegate is, Henry Clay Applegate (went by Clay all his life) b. 1860/Brooksville, Bracken Co, KY, d. 28 Sep 1932/San Diego Co, San Diego, CA. His wife said to have been Agnes although I've no info on her. Henry Clay Applegate's parents, Jacob & Elizabeth (Henry) Applegate. Toni Maize Fenske51@aol.com wrote: I do not connect with your information I just saw on this John E. Applegate line, but I am sure you are related to the California clan. Maybe think about it. Because, there is an Applegate Trail, that the Pony Express mail men went on horse back, and wagon, etc., and there is a major freeway, that takes me to my house, and a town named Applegate. When I have more time, I will email you some of that data. My name is Ivy Fenske, I live in California, and the Applegates married into the Sawtelle family, the Sawtelles came out from Maine to CA, and the Applegates, I have to look on my paper to see where they stated from to get to cA. hope this helps someone, my email is _Fenske51@aol.com_ (mailto:Fenske51@aol.com) email me if you feel there might be a connection in California **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just wondering about your CA Applegate line. I've a Applegate I've been researching for a few years now. Migrated to LA county Los Angeles, died in San Diego. Wonder if he could be one of yours or if you've info on him. Know I'm grasping at straws here but always feel it's worth a try. My Applegate is, Henry Clay Applegate (went by Clay all his life) b. 1860/Brooksville, Bracken Co, KY, d. 28 Sep 1932/San Diego Co, San Diego, CA. His wife said to have been Agnes although I've no info on her. Henry Clay Applegate's parents, Jacob & Elizabeth (Henry) Applegate. Toni Maize Fenske51@aol.com wrote: I do not connect with your information I just saw on this John E. Applegate line, but I am sure you are related to the California clan. Maybe think about it. Because, there is an Applegate Trail, that the Pony Express mail men went on horse back, and wagon, etc., and there is a major freeway, that takes me to my house, and a town named Applegate. When I have more time, I will email you some of that data. My name is Ivy Fenske, I live in California, and the Applegates married into the Sawtelle family, the Sawtelles came out from Maine to CA, and the Applegates, I have to look on my paper to see where they stated from to get to cA. hope this helps someone, my email is _Fenske51@aol.com_ (mailto:Fenske51@aol.com) email me if you feel there might be a connection in California **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

gosh, thanks! I appreciate the tip. It is not a direction I had even thought about going---so it really IS a help! Beverly Rutledge ----- Original Message ----- From: <Fenske51@aol.com> To: <applegate@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [APPLEGATE] John E. Applegate >I do not connect with your information I just saw on this John E. Applegate > line, > but I am sure you are related to the California clan. > Maybe think about it. Because, there is an Applegate Trail, that the Pony > Express mail men went on horse back, and wagon, etc., and there is a major > freeway, that takes me to my house, and a town named Applegate. > When I have more time, I will email you some of that data. > My name is Ivy Fenske, I live in California, and the Applegates married > into > the Sawtelle family, the Sawtelles came out from Maine to CA, and the > Applegates, I have to look on my paper to see where they stated from to > get to cA. > > hope this helps someone, my email is _Fenske51@aol.com_ > (mailto:Fenske51@aol.com) email me if you feel there might be a > connection in California > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: > 12/1/2007 12:05 PM > >

I do not connect with your information I just saw on this John E. Applegate line, but I am sure you are related to the California clan. Maybe think about it. Because, there is an Applegate Trail, that the Pony Express mail men went on horse back, and wagon, etc., and there is a major freeway, that takes me to my house, and a town named Applegate. When I have more time, I will email you some of that data. My name is Ivy Fenske, I live in California, and the Applegates married into the Sawtelle family, the Sawtelles came out from Maine to CA, and the Applegates, I have to look on my paper to see where they stated from to get to cA. hope this helps someone, my email is _Fenske51@aol.com_ (mailto:Fenske51@aol.com) email me if you feel there might be a connection in California **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

Beverly, This is my most documented Applegate branch, I have included a group sheet for you. This Applegate branch is my brother in laws, his great great grandfather was Court Applegate.. Edie 23 NOV 2007 Family Group Sheet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Husband: Joseph Martin Applegate ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Born: 02 FEB 1833 in Ohio Died: 31 MAR 1904 in Father: John E. Applegate Mother: Amanda Adaline Ginoways ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wife: Emily Jane Redick Married: 23 OCT 1859 in ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Born: 28 MAY 1840 in Died: 13 JUN 1923 in Father: Mother: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 1: William Applegate Born: 1861 in ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 2: Alice A. Applegate Born: 06 FEB 1863 in Ohio Died: 11 JAN 1923 in Miami Township, Clermont County, Ohio Buried: 13 JAN 1923 in Milford, Clermont County, Ohio Spouse: Alonzo F. Shore b. 01 AUG 1881 d. 08 JAN 1935 Married: 02 FEB 1882 in Brown County, Ohio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 3: Henry Applegate Born: 1865 in Died: 1865 in ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 4: Theodore Edward Applegate Born: 25 JUN 1866 in Ohio Died: 05 JUL 1914 in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio Buried: 08 JUL 1914 in Vine Street Hill Cemetery, Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 5: Curtis "Court" Perry Applegate Born: 14 DEC 1867 in Ohio Died: 27 SEP 1938 in Sterling Township, Brown County, Ohio Buried: 30 SEP 1938 in Bloom Rose Cemetery, Williamsburg, Brown County, Ohio Spouse: Hattie "Bird" Davidson b. 1872 d. 1963 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 6: Matilda Applegate Born: 1871 in ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 7: Elizabeth Applegate Born: 1874 in Ohio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 8: James E. Applegate Born: 07 SEP 1875 in Ohio Died: 03 JAN 1941 in Marathon, Jackson Township, Clermont County, Ohio Buried: 06 JAN 1941 in Bloom Rose Cemetery, Williamsburg, Brown County, Ohio Spouse: Rose Brunson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 9: John A. Applegate Born: 31 MAR 1880 in Marathon, Clermont County, Ohio Died: 26 MAR 1945 in Anderson Township, Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio Buried: 29 MAR 1945 in Baltimore Pike Cemetery Spouse: Helen ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Prepared by: Edie Suttle, jsattle9@fuse.net Loveland, Ohio 45140 Beverly Rutledge wrote: >I am looking to clarify the descendants of John E. Applegate and his wife, Adeline Armanda Genoways of Brown County, Ohio. He was born about 1785 and died in Brown County in 1837. > >Their children were (as far as I know at this point): > William Redin > Adeline Augusta > John E. > Joseph Martin > Richard Davidson >Beverly Rutledge >bevrutledge@earthlink.net > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to APPLEGATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >