Hello List, Yesterday when I tried to go online with AOL, I received this message; The AOL Software cannot start up correctly. Please try again,restart your computer,or reinstall the software. Error starting; EE://connectivity/connectivity Error code; 1 Reinstall Close I rebooted computer and still got the message. When this error message is on the screen, AOL stops responding and I have to click end task for about 5 minutes to get out of it. This morning, I reloaded AOL and still get the error message. Another thing after reloading, when I click to open AOL, the screenname shows "Existing Member" My screenname and my Grand-daughters screennames are not showing. I am on dialup still using AOL 9.0 Security Edition. I do not use AOL much myself as I use Juno most of the time, but my GDaughters swear by AOL, so I keep it just for them to use in doing their homework. Is there any way to solve this problem other than uninstalling it and reinstall? Lloyd -- ____________________________________________________________ Click to lower your debt and consolidate your monthly expenses. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m2XiRyjTfarSwCjjhdChQcfvSvm5BOb2VM6BA7bbrkdGNct/

The closing of AOL's FTP in this case affects (1) AOL Hometown web space/web pages and (2) AOL Journals ---(which I guess they want people to move to whatever it's called?--a blog site in People Connection. BOTH can be found at Keyword: FTP And there's a screen to Download the files-- all files, even your images. Later, for AOL Journals, they will send intructions for how to transfer it all to another blog site. They also have journal entries in a file you can download-- but I'm wondering how to open/view it after download? Judy On 10/1/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Only those AOLers that had web pages or wanted AOL web pages are > affected by the recent "Hometown" and "FTP" announcement. All other AOLers are not > affected. AOL mail and AOL browsers are not affected.

Before anyone asks, EULA is End User License Agreement, AUP is Acceptable Use Policy although in some instances it may be Annual Upgrade Protection, and TOS which is Terms of Service. Enjoy the day everyone, it will not come again. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

There is nothing in RootsWeb's AUP that gives them the right to do anything other than house the content and back it up -- and that is for your OWN protection. You are not turning over copyright of your data to RootsWeb--and the AUP makes that clear. You are correct though that people should always familiarize themselves with a company's AUP before placing their website there. Joan In a message dated 10/1/2008 9:03:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: When moving your files to free sites, please read their EULA. For example, My Heritage clearly states that anything posted on their site may be used by them in any way they wish, even for redistribution. Other sites have similar wording. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

In a message dated 10/1/2008 8:50:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Freepages and upload your pages When moving your files to free sites, please read their EULA. For example, My Heritage clearly states that anything posted on their site may be used by them in any way they wish, even for redistribution. Other sites have similar wording. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

I haven't used AOL's FTP in years but I used to use it to upload pages to my RootsWeb website -- instead of a stand-alone FTP client. I'm assuming that also will no longer be possible? (Maybe it isn't now--I haven't tried in quite some time.) Sharon (or anyone else) do you know if that is also being killed? If you have a genealogy (or family or history) related website at AOL you can always request free space on RootsWeb's Freepages and upload your pages there before AOL kills the free websites. Joan In a message dated 10/1/2008 3:26:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Basically, if you have ever created a webpage on AOL you should download your page to your computer and find a new place to post it. AOL is getting rid of that perk (providing free web space). So, if you don't have a webpage/s on AOL, there is nothing for you to do about it. Sharon **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Thanks, Woody, and I am sorry that you and the other Aolers will be affected. It takes a lot of time and patience to put up a web page from what I understand. My granddaughter used to do graphics or some such thing that pertained to websites, and it seemed to be pretty involved. I feel relieved that the mail will go through, and that the brower will still be around. Thanks again for your response Virgene .............................................................................. ...................... In a message dated 10/1/2008 2:18:09 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Virgene, You know more than I do. I had forgotten what "FTP" stood for (File Transfer Protocol). Only those AOLers that had web pages or wanted AOL web pages are affected by the recent "Hometown" and "FTP" announcement. All other AOLers are not affected. AOL mail and AOL browsers are not affected. But us AOLers that had AOL web pages are going to be weeping and wailing. Woody ==================== [email protected] writes: << Joan, and anyone else who knows what is going on: As a computer illiterate AOL user, serviced by Comcast, do any of the FTP changes taking place apply to persons in my category. I use the AOL browser, and AOL email. I hope there is nothing happening that would suggest that there would be any transferring of files within the system. I would feel as though I were learning all over again. This would be as bad as trying to figure out a pattern for making clothing or balloon shades. Not a good comparison, but I am challenged pitifully in those areas, and I don't like trying out new ideas anymore when I am comfortable doing something that fits my capabilities. I'm still trying to figure out all the stuff on the menu of my cell phone...I just prefer on and off, makes life so much simpler.<G> Virgene PS: I googled and *still* don't know anymore than before I went to the sites that answered questions pertaining to FTP. I know that File Transfer Protocol (FTP) is what is being discussed, but who and what should we doing something differently. UGH!!! Virgene >> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Basically, if you have ever created a webpage on AOL you should download your page to your computer and find a new place to post it. AOL is getting rid of that perk (providing free web space). So, if you don't have a webpage/s on AOL, there is nothing for you to do about it. Sharon -------------------------------- In a message dated 9/30/2008 11:48:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Joan, and anyone else who knows what is going on: As a computer illiterate AOL user, serviced by Comcast, do any of the FTP changes taking place apply to persons in my category. I use the AOL browser, and AOL email. I hope there is nothing happening that would suggest that there would be any transferring of files within the system. I would feel as though I were learning all over again. This would be as bad as trying to figure out a pattern for making clothing or balloon shades. Not a good comparison, but I am challenged pitifully in those areas, and I don't like trying out new ideas anymore when I am comfortable doing something that fits my capabilities. I'm still trying to figure out all the stuff on the menu of my cell phone...I just prefer on and off, makes life so much simpler.<G> Virgene PS: I googled and *still* don't know anymore than before I went to the sites that answered questions pertaining to FTP. I know that File Transfer Protocol (FTP) is what is being discussed, but who and what should we doing something differently. UGH!!! Virgene .............................................................................. ........................................ In a message dated 9/30/2008 4:18:56 P.M. US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I remember AOL 2.5 also--remember the Webcrawler "browser" if you can call it that? In the OLD days I'd have agreed with you that for AOL the Internet was like an afterthought and proprietary content was the most important aspect of their service--however, they've come a long way and I access AOL via cable modem and I don't a bit of trouble with large downloads or uploads--works as well or better through AOL as it does without it. Joan **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AOLERS-ROOTSWEB ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Virgene, You know more than I do. I had forgotten what "FTP" stood for (File Transfer Protocol). Only those AOLers that had web pages or wanted AOL web pages are affected by the recent "Hometown" and "FTP" announcement. All other AOLers are not affected. AOL mail and AOL browsers are not affected. But us AOLers that had AOL web pages are going to be weeping and wailing. Woody ==================== [email protected] writes: << Joan, and anyone else who knows what is going on: As a computer illiterate AOL user, serviced by Comcast, do any of the FTP changes taking place apply to persons in my category. I use the AOL browser, and AOL email. I hope there is nothing happening that would suggest that there would be any transferring of files within the system. I would feel as though I were learning all over again. This would be as bad as trying to figure out a pattern for making clothing or balloon shades. Not a good comparison, but I am challenged pitifully in those areas, and I don't like trying out new ideas anymore when I am comfortable doing something that fits my capabilities. I'm still trying to figure out all the stuff on the menu of my cell phone...I just prefer on and off, makes life so much simpler.<G> Virgene PS: I googled and *still* don't know anymore than before I went to the sites that answered questions pertaining to FTP. I know that File Transfer Protocol (FTP) is what is being discussed, but who and what should we doing something differently. UGH!!! Virgene >> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Joan, and anyone else who knows what is going on: As a computer illiterate AOL user, serviced by Comcast, do any of the FTP changes taking place apply to persons in my category. I use the AOL browser, and AOL email. I hope there is nothing happening that would suggest that there would be any transferring of files within the system. I would feel as though I were learning all over again. This would be as bad as trying to figure out a pattern for making clothing or balloon shades. Not a good comparison, but I am challenged pitifully in those areas, and I don't like trying out new ideas anymore when I am comfortable doing something that fits my capabilities. I'm still trying to figure out all the stuff on the menu of my cell phone...I just prefer on and off, makes life so much simpler.<G> Virgene PS: I googled and *still* don't know anymore than before I went to the sites that answered questions pertaining to FTP. I know that File Transfer Protocol (FTP) is what is being discussed, but who and what should we doing something differently. UGH!!! Virgene .............................................................................. ........................................ In a message dated 9/30/2008 4:18:56 P.M. US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I remember AOL 2.5 also--remember the Webcrawler "browser" if you can call it that? In the OLD days I'd have agreed with you that for AOL the Internet was like an afterthought and proprietary content was the most important aspect of their service--however, they've come a long way and I access AOL via cable modem and I don't a bit of trouble with large downloads or uploads--works as well or better through AOL as it does without it. Joan **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Okay--tonight I let the update install when I was prompted at signoff. I had misread it the first time (my only excuse is that I was tired last night when signing off--I know--no excuse). Anyway, the update wasn't just for VISTA -- the blurb was merely alerting VISTA users that they may be prompted when the update was installing to allow access--which I was. It was apparently only a small patch and just took a few seconds for it to install. I don't know what changes it was making but I haven't noticed anything different yet. Joan **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

The seriousness and lack of clarity of the AOL announcement required, for me, answers to some point blank questions. I'm still paying the minimal amount to AOL for rare dial-up, and therefore I can contact their "live help". I wanted to remove any ambiguity concerning "non-Hometown" web sites and the use of FTP for non-Hometown web sites. The "help" stated that any site with _http://members.aol.com_ (http://members.aol.com) was a part of the Hometown group, and such sites, even without the inclusion of "hometown" in the URL, would be shut down, and that meant specifically that my surname web site _http://members.aol.com/xxxxxx/xxxx.htm_ (http://members.aol.com/xxxxxx/xxxx.htm) and several others would be shut down. Can't get any more clear than that. Anyone with an AOL web site will have their web site shut down --- period. Oh great. Gonna be a bunch of unhappy AOLers. Woody ========================== [email protected] writes: On 10/1/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > WHOA!! FTP is being shutdown? > Yes. >> Or did someone send a hoax message? > By someone do you mean me? No... It's an official AOL email. Go to Keyword FTP and read the same message there. Judy **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

On 10/1/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > WHOA!! FTP is being shutdown? > Yes. >> Or did someone send a hoax message? > By someone do you mean me? No... It's an official AOL email. Go to Keyword FTP and read the same message there. Judy

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WHOA!! FTP is being shutdown? FTP is any uploading to an AOL hosted web site!!! The broader statement that they seem to be saying is that "AOL IS SHUTTING DOWN ALL AOL WEB SITES -- WHETHER "HOMETOWN" AND ANY OTHER AOL CUSTOMER WEB SITE" Is that what AOL is really saying? After all, to upload to my web site, I use the keyword "FTP". FTP is how files are uploaded to one's AOL web site. Oh man! I've had a surname web site on AOL since Teddy Roosevelt was president. Anybody know whether or not they're shutting down AOL customer web sites? Or did someone send a hoax message? Woody =============================== , [email protected] writes: I found the page to download my stuff. But, anyone know if file names with weird AOL extensions can be opened/read. Oh. and you should note there is a small message on the download area that says we should run our files through a virus checker because they come from the Internet. ==== Just in case you haven't been on AOL tonight... Quoted email: "Dear AOL Hometown/FTP user, We're sorry to inform you that on Oct. 31, 2008, AOL(R) Hometown and FTP will be shut down permanently. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Though you will be able to modify your Hometown site and access FTP until this date, we urge you to save your AOL Hometown/FTP content immediately, and consider other options for hosting your site. Read more about how to download and save your Hometown/FTP files here. ( http://www.peopleconnectionblog.com/2008/09/03/how-to-download-your-hometown-f iles/ ) In the meantime, please bookmark the People Connection Blog, ( http://www.peopleconnectionblog.com/2008/08/04/attention-aol-hometown-users-un ited-states/ ) where you can find out more about AOL Hometown/FTP. You can also subscribe to the People Connection Blog RSS feed to stay informed about any changes. We'll be updating the People Connection Blog often, so please check it regularly. Thank you for your patience and understanding as we make this transition. Again, we apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Sincerely, The AOL Hometown Team " **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

There are some good things about AOL, yes, or I wouldn't still be using AOL. But --- I use it as a supplement and as a legacy program for long used e-mail addresses in addition to my Outlook Express. AOL permits me to use unique screen names for different Rootsweb mail lists to prevent confusion as to which list I'm talking to, and keeps my list mail separated efficiently. One thing I like about Outlook Express over AOL is that I can "see" JPGs and GIFs immediately without downloading. I keep the JPGs and GIFs with the e-mail instead. Also, I can open all attachments direct from the e-mail without having to download first. In fact, I don't have to download any attachments at all, as I can view them and simply leave them on the Outlook Express e-mail. I don't have a jillion files on my hard drive, wondering how they got there and which AOL e-mail they arrived under. That's definitely a plus. Once an AOLer has experienced being able to see images immediately, and being able to open attachments directly without downloading, it's hard to go back to AOL. In fact, I forward my AOL e-mails that have attachments over to my Outlook Express account so that I can work with them more efficiently. Lowest cost e-mail program? Outlook Express is free, and AOL can be free (if one pays another ISP), but I pay because there are places where I travel that I have to use dial-up, and AOL ensures that I can get on the internet with dial-up if wireless isn't available. Again, there are some good things about AOL, but since it has destroyed a lot of my saved mail, and has the shortfalls that I've described, I can't give it high recommendations. And cable means that I'm always "on", and being off dial-up means I don't get chewed out royally for my wife missing her many calls. Oh man --- I'm glad THOSE days are over!! Woody ===================== [email protected] writes: > CABLE means speed and $$$ .......and Comcast is the joke of the Internet, > as they determine just how fast you can use their very expensive cable > system. > > AOL email program remains the best in the world, at the lowest $$$ COST. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Last night when I signed off of AOL I got a box that said a VISTA upgrade for AOL was available and did I want to download it now or later. I checked later and did not update at that time. What bothered me was that it didn't say if this was a NEW version of AOL software (I currently use 9.1) or whether it was just a patch to the existing 9.1 version. Has anyone else using Vista gotten this "update" notice and have you done it? If so, what was changed in the upgrade? Joan **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

John, I also live in California and I have to disagree with your statement that people who use cable don't care about the cost. I care! A lot. I'm retired and on a limited income so I weighed the cost very carefully when I changed to broadband - Comcast. I took their package deal and now I pay less for phone, TV, and Internet connection than I did when I got them separately. And believe me, even if I were paying a little more, I would never go back to dial up. One click and I am online. No waiting. No freezing. No really slow days. It is amazing. I am still awed every time I log on. Barbara [email protected] writes: > CABLE means speed and $$$ .......and Comcast is the joke of the Internet, > as they determine just how fast you can use their very expensive cable > system. > > AOL email program remains the best in the world, at the lowest $$$ COST. ************** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

I found the page to download my stuff. But, anyone know if file names with weird AOL extensions can be opened/read. Oh. and you should note there is a small message on the download area that says we should run our files through a virus checker because they come from the Internet. ==== Just in case you haven't been on AOL tonight... Quoted email: "Dear AOL Hometown/FTP user, We're sorry to inform you that on Oct. 31, 2008, AOL(R) Hometown and FTP will be shut down permanently. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Though you will be able to modify your Hometown site and access FTP until this date, we urge you to save your AOL Hometown/FTP content immediately, and consider other options for hosting your site. Read more about how to download and save your Hometown/FTP files here. ( http://www.peopleconnectionblog.com/2008/09/03/how-to-download-your-hometown-files/ ) In the meantime, please bookmark the People Connection Blog, ( http://www.peopleconnectionblog.com/2008/08/04/attention-aol-hometown-users-united-states/ ) where you can find out more about AOL Hometown/FTP. You can also subscribe to the People Connection Blog RSS feed to stay informed about any changes. We'll be updating the People Connection Blog often, so please check it regularly. Thank you for your patience and understanding as we make this transition. Again, we apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Sincerely, The AOL Hometown Team "

Judy- I remember AOL 2.5 also--remember the Webcrawler "browser" if you can call it that? In the OLD days I'd have agreed with you that for AOL the Internet was like an afterthought and proprietary content was the most important aspect of their service--however, they've come a long way and I access AOL via cable modem and I don't a bit of trouble with large downloads or uploads--works as well or better through AOL as it does without it. Joan In a message dated 9/30/2008 3:52:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: But as an experienced AOL user, I find it is FAR more difficult for AOL to handle HUGE pictures like class photos. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)