Hi again Had you found the 1841 On Ancestry as 1841 Scotland Census about Robert Teverdale Name: Robert Teverdale Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil parish: Arbroath County: Angus Address: Park Flint Parish Number: 272 Household Members: Name Age James Teverdale 35 Flaxdresser Sarah Teverdale 35 Jane Teverdale 15 Flax Spinner Robert Teverdale 15 Ann Teverdale 10 Matilda Teverdale 10 Alexander Teverdale 9 David Teverdale 7 Parish: Arbroath; ED: 3; Page: 3; Line: 506; Year: 1841. In 1851 (I strongly suspect this is them , interesting transcription work there <g>) 1851 Scotland Census about Robert Jeroldala Name: Robert Jeroldala Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relationship: Head Spouse's Name: Julia Jeroldala Gender: Male Where born: St Andrews, fifeshire Parish Number: 282 Civil parish: Dundee Town: Dundee County: Angus Address: Dudhope Crescent Occupation: Warehouseman ED: 33 Page: 21 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 87 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1851_61 Household Members: Name Age Robert Jeroldala 25 Julia Jeroldala 30 St Vigeans, Forfar Parish: Dundee; ED: 33; Page: 21; Line: 1; Roll: CSSCT1851_61; Year: 1851. And in 1861 1861 Scotland Census about Robert Teristdale Name: Robert Teristdale Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Julia Teristdale Gender: Male Where born: St Andrew, fifeshire Registration number: 272 Registration district: Arbroath Civil parish: St Vigeans Town: Arbroath County: Angus Address: 10 Guthrie Hill Occupation: Flaxdresser Overseer ED: 26 Household schedule number: 100 Line: 6 Roll: CSSCT1861_36 Household Members: Name Age Robert Teristdale 35 Julia Teristdale 39 St Vigeans, Forfarshire Adam R Teristdale 9 Dundee, Forfarshire Parish: St Vigeans; ED: 26; Page: 17; Line: 6; Roll: CSSCT1861_36. Its imperative that you get the original page though, scotlandspeople is the easiest source Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 28/11/2012 22:23, EUAN TEVIOTDALE wrote: > Hi Nivard, > > > I have worked out his birth date to be around 1826. 1851 census has > Robert and Julia living at 87 Dudhope Crescent, Dundee . He was a > Warehouseman. He is not in the 1861 or 1871 census, but his wife and > son are. > > According to the census he is in, it states birth in St.Andrews > Fifeshire? Don't know whether it should have been St.Andrews in > Edinburgh. > > He was married in Arbroath in 1848 to Julia Raitt. I was hoping to > get his death cert which would have given me some relevant details. > > > Thanks > > Euan.

Hi Nivard, Believe it or not I thought totally wrongly as you have proven, that having a surname of Teviotdale would have made family research reasonably straightforward, compared to my wife who is looking for Jimmy Milne, no middle name, farm labourer in Angus. I know of  a family with nine children and the spelling is  three Tevendales, three Tavendales and three Teviotdales. I know of variations of my surname and include Twistdale in there, but Jeroldala is a new one on me. I had tried using soundex and other variant spellings but not sure if I had Teverdale. I have been to the GRO in Edinburgh a few times, but never found Teristdale either. I greatly appreciate your help. I am now able to tie my Teviotdales to Ms Ramsay Teviotdale of  Arlington, Virginia with whom I have been corresponding for about ten years, and met while in Washington D.C. on holiday. Thank You. Euan. ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: angus@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012, 22:39 Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Prisoners Hi again Had you found the 1841 On Ancestry as 1841 Scotland Census about Robert Teverdale Name:     Robert Teverdale Age:     15 Estimated Birth Year:     abt 1826 Gender:     Male Where born:     Scotland Civil parish:     Arbroath County:     Angus Address:     Park Flint Parish Number:     272 Household Members:     Name     Age James Teverdale     35 Flaxdresser Sarah Teverdale     35 Jane Teverdale     15 Flax Spinner Robert Teverdale     15 Ann Teverdale     10 Matilda Teverdale     10 Alexander Teverdale     9 David Teverdale     7 Parish: Arbroath; ED: 3; Page: 3; Line: 506; Year: 1841. In 1851 (I strongly suspect this is them , interesting transcription work there <g>) 1851 Scotland Census about Robert Jeroldala Name:     Robert Jeroldala Age:     25 Estimated Birth Year:     abt 1826 Relationship:     Head Spouse's Name:     Julia Jeroldala Gender:     Male Where born:     St Andrews, fifeshire Parish Number:     282 Civil parish:     Dundee Town:     Dundee County:     Angus Address:     Dudhope Crescent Occupation:     Warehouseman ED:     33 Page:     21 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number:     87 Line:     1 Roll:     CSSCT1851_61 Household Members:     Name     Age Robert Jeroldala     25 Julia Jeroldala     30 St Vigeans, Forfar Parish: Dundee; ED: 33; Page: 21; Line: 1; Roll: CSSCT1851_61; Year: 1851. And in 1861 1861 Scotland Census about Robert Teristdale Name:     Robert Teristdale Age:     35 Estimated Birth Year:     abt 1826 Relationship:     Head Spouse's name :     Julia Teristdale Gender:     Male Where born:     St Andrew, fifeshire Registration number:     272 Registration district:     Arbroath Civil parish:     St Vigeans Town:     Arbroath County:     Angus Address:     10 Guthrie Hill Occupation:     Flaxdresser Overseer ED:     26 Household schedule number:     100 Line:     6 Roll:     CSSCT1861_36 Household Members:     Name     Age Robert Teristdale     35 Julia Teristdale     39 St Vigeans, Forfarshire Adam R Teristdale     9 Dundee, Forfarshire Parish: St Vigeans; ED: 26; Page: 17; Line: 6; Roll: CSSCT1861_36. Its imperative that you get the original page though, scotlandspeople is the easiest source Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 28/11/2012 22:23, EUAN TEVIOTDALE wrote: > Hi Nivard, > > > I have worked out his birth date to be around 1826. 1851 census has > Robert  and Julia living at 87 Dudhope Crescent, Dundee . He was a > Warehouseman. He is not in the 1861 or 1871 census, but his wife and > son are. > > According to the census he is in, it states birth in St.Andrews > Fifeshire? Don't know whether it should have been St.Andrews in > Edinburgh. > > He was married in Arbroath in 1848 to Julia Raitt. I was hoping to > get his death cert which would have given me some relevant details. > > > Thanks > > Euan. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Euan, Perhaps the dates and addresses here might help, slightly: Census 7 June 1841. Park Street, Arbroath. Residing with parent's James Teviotdale and Sarah Fairn. Not Born Angus. Aged 15 (Shown as Teverdale). Also residing next household 1841 census David Louson and wife Elizabeth Wightman, aunt of Mary Ritchie Wightman married to Robert Carrie Teviotdale. Friends of Dundee City Archives - Howff Graveyard of Dundee. Teviotdale, James. Burial 01 Aug 1850. Aged 8 months. Born Arbroath. Cause: Water in Head. Son of Robert Teviotdale, Heckler. Last known address: Dudhope Crescent, Dundee. 1856 Birth. 2nd District of Dundee. County of Forfarshire. Ann Teviotdale. Born 1 July 1856 at 3:00am at 20 Hunter Street, Dundee. Daughter of Robert Teviotdale (Flaxdresser) and Julia Teviotdale ms Raitt. Registered at Dundee 11 July 1856. Informant Robert Teviotdale. Father. (Present). 1857 Death. District of Arbroath. County of Forfarshire. Ann Teviotdale. Died 1 October 1857 at 11:45am at Guthrie Hall, Parish of St Vigeans. Aged 15 months. Daughter of Robert Teviotdale (Flaxdresser Journeyman) and Julia Teviotdale ms Raitt. Cause of Death: Diarrhea (About 5 weeks). Certified by Charles Findlay, Surgeon, who saw the deceased 29 September. Registered 5 October 1857 at Arbroath. Informant Julia Teviotdale ('X' her mark). Mother. (Present). Place of Burial Abbey Churchyard, Arbroath. Certified by James Renny. Undertaker. I have Robert Teviotdale (born abt. 1826) son of James Teviotdale (born Arbroath 1801) and Sarah Fairn (baptism 1802 West Wittering, Sussex, England). Of their known children I have (7), 3 were born St Andrews, Fifeshire, according to census records. 1880 Marriage. District of Montrose. County of Forfarshire. 31 December 1880 at Victoria Bridge, Montrose. After Publications According to the Forms of the Weslynan Methodist Church. John Kinnear (Road Labourer. Burgh). Widower. Aged 60. Residing Victoria Bridge, Montrose. Son of John Kinnear (Road Labourer. Burgh) deceased and Elizabeth Kinnear ms Henderson deceased. Married Julia Teviotdale (House Keeper). ('X' her mark). Widow. Aged 58. Residing Victoria Bridge, Montrose. Daughter of David Rait (Flaxdresser) deceased and Isabella Rait ms *White deceased. Witnesses Robert Stewart and Jane Walker. *Isabella Rait ms White, should read Helen Rait ms White/Whyte who was Julia's step-mother. 1902 Death. District of Arbroath. County of Forfarshire. Julia Kinnear. Widow of 1st Robert Teviotdale. 2nd John Kinnear. Died on 1 November 1902 at 8:30am at Arbroath Poor House. Aged 80. Daughter of David Rait (Flax Dresser) deceased and Isabella Rait ms *Rhind deceased. Cause: Disease of Heart (1 year 6 months). Certified by James A. Dewar, M.D. Registered 1 November 1902 at Arbroath. Informant Alex. Anderson. *Nephew. Residing 37 Sidney Street, Arbroath. *Nephew Alexander Anderson, residing 37 Sidney Street, Arbroath, born 1852 son of Alexander Carnegie Anderson and Julia's sister Jane Guild Raitt. Lee Walmsley ms Wightman Perth WA. PS. The children mentioned in the census records below from Nivard, tally with my records. Happy to help on those if you wish. ---- Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: > Hi again > > Had you found the 1841 > > On Ancestry as > > > 1841 Scotland Census about Robert Teverdale > Name: Robert Teverdale > Age: 15 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 > Gender: Male > Where born: Scotland > Civil parish: Arbroath > County: Angus > Address: Park Flint > Parish Number: 272 > Household Members: > Name Age > James Teverdale 35 Flaxdresser > Sarah Teverdale 35 > Jane Teverdale 15 Flax Spinner > Robert Teverdale 15 > Ann Teverdale 10 > Matilda Teverdale 10 > Alexander Teverdale 9 > David Teverdale 7 > > Parish: Arbroath; ED: 3; Page: 3; Line: 506; Year: 1841. > > In 1851 (I strongly suspect this is them , interesting transcription > work there <g>) > > 1851 Scotland Census about Robert Jeroldala > Name: Robert Jeroldala > Age: 25 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 > Relationship: Head > Spouse's Name: Julia Jeroldala > Gender: Male > Where born: St Andrews, fifeshire > Parish Number: 282 > Civil parish: Dundee > Town: Dundee > County: Angus > Address: Dudhope Crescent > Occupation: Warehouseman > ED: 33 > Page: 21 (click to see others on page) > Household schedule number: 87 > Line: 1 > Roll: CSSCT1851_61 > Household Members: > Name Age > Robert Jeroldala 25 > Julia Jeroldala 30 St Vigeans, Forfar > > Parish: Dundee; ED: 33; Page: 21; Line: 1; Roll: CSSCT1851_61; Year: 1851. > > And in 1861 > > 1861 Scotland Census about Robert Teristdale > Name: Robert Teristdale > Age: 35 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 > Relationship: Head > Spouse's name : Julia Teristdale > Gender: Male > Where born: St Andrew, fifeshire > Registration number: 272 > Registration district: Arbroath > Civil parish: St Vigeans > Town: Arbroath > County: Angus > Address: 10 Guthrie Hill > Occupation: Flaxdresser Overseer > ED: 26 > Household schedule number: 100 > Line: 6 > Roll: CSSCT1861_36 > Household Members: > Name Age > Robert Teristdale 35 > Julia Teristdale 39 St Vigeans, Forfarshire > Adam R Teristdale 9 Dundee, Forfarshire > > Parish: St Vigeans; ED: 26; Page: 17; Line: 6; Roll: CSSCT1861_36. > > Its imperative that you get the original page though, scotlandspeople is > the easiest source > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 28/11/2012 22:23, EUAN TEVIOTDALE wrote: > > Hi Nivard, > > > > > > I have worked out his birth date to be around 1826. 1851 census has > > Robert and Julia living at 87 Dudhope Crescent, Dundee . He was a > > Warehouseman. He is not in the 1861 or 1871 census, but his wife and > > son are. > > > > According to the census he is in, it states birth in St.Andrews > > Fifeshire? Don't know whether it should have been St.Andrews in > > Edinburgh. > > > > He was married in Arbroath in 1848 to Julia Raitt. I was hoping to > > get his death cert which would have given me some relevant details. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Euan. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message