This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: alisoninvancouver Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5979.1.1.1.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think we're lucky to prove anything back this far, Alan, and - your are right - spelling didn't much matter then. I suspect we are looking at different branches of the family given your dates, although my data is far from proven: David Warden's name was well researched and his dob came from a descendent of one of the brothers that went to Australia and also from a member submission in IGI. Those are always suspect until proven from another source. Isobel Winter's name is also fairly well established and the surname is passed down through the Australian Wardens. However her date and place of birth are tenuous. This is information I was given and have been unable to confirm, although the source has considerable research experience. It's a common name. And I do wonder why she would have been born in Dundee if the were a Kirriemuir family. There's also Winter's in Tannadice, which is much closer. Alison Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.