hi folks, after much searching I think maybe the PRESTONS [Presson] of Glamis came from Glen of Ogilvie [which I had to hunt down on Statistical Accounts and Google] called Milltown of Glen of Ogilvie. First I found a death in Dundee for JAMES PRESTON 1835 - 69 years born Glamis. and there had been an Ann Preston died 1827 at 59...also born Glamis...so I think these might have been my JAMES PRESTON who married ANN MCDONALD "at Glamis" in 1808 recorded at Dundee. Now, if you think of it, they would both have been about 40-42 at marriage. So I actually wonder if they had their children before marriage? cant find any. Tried both McDonald and Preston. And my JEAN/JANE PRESTON born about 1810 wouldve been a "miracle'?...maybe she was the only child? I downloaded some birth pages from Glamis for year 1767 and 1764 for Presson and Preston. For JAMES "PRESSON" I get "Presson James son to______ Glen" -oh great. For awhile there I couldnt figure out anything on the page because no surnames were used for father and immediately after father's given name was followed by the locale...very weird. At least I have established that "Prestons/Pressons" were in Glamis at the needed years--1760-1770. just an update of my struggles and thanking you folks for all your help on various queries, Liz of BC Canada