thanks for the tips and info Anne, I think I have been really lucky so far in the Dundee records, liz On Apr 4, 2009, at 11:31 PM, Anne Burgess wrote: >> i have a marriage record for Dundee 1808 for JAMES PRESTON >> and ANN >> MCDONALD it goes on to say "...in p. of Glammis"... >> does this mean the actual marriage was performed in Glamis? >> even tho >> the record was in Dundee? proclamation in Dundee? can >> someone >> interpret this for me? > > When a couple about to get married lived in different parishes, > the banns were proclaimed in both parishes. If the > record-keeping is good, this generates two records of the > proclamation, so that it looks as if the couple were married > twice, once in each parish. > > What this means is that at the time when their banns were > called, James Preston was living in Dundee and Ann McDonald in > Glamis. > > It does not tell you where (i.e. in which parish) the actual > ceremony was performed. It was customary for the wedding > ceremony to be held in the bride's parents' home (not, as a > rule, in the kirk), or, if she was working a long way from home > or had no parents living, in the manse in her parish of > residence. > >> unfortunately, the record does not have "Ann McDonald's" >> father's name. > The majority of the pre-1855 records of proclamation of banns > don't include information about the couple's parents. I never > expect to find that information, and I regard it as a bonus if > it does say who one or more of the parents were. > >> and I cant seem to find on igi or ScotlandsPeople any children >> of this >> couple ... > There could be any number of reasons for this > - the baptism was performed in a different denomination (Roman > Catholic, Episcopalian, Free Kirk etc) > - the parents omitted to have the child baptised > - the parents did not have the baptism recorded (there was > sometimes a fee for this which poor parents could not afford) > - the session clerk neglected to write down the record > - the page with the record has been defaced or destroyed > - the ink was of poor quality and has faded to the point of > illegibility > - the register has not survived at all. > and so on. > >> I tried to download the >> death cert and it wont open on my computer...says "file is >> corrupted" > If you contact Scotland's People and tell them that, they will > sort it out for you and send you the correct image. > >> This is the first set of children I cannot find in Dundee >> [other family >> lines at Borders have failed to baptise or register their >> children]. Is >> this likely the case here? > Could be. > >> I also found a death at Dundee 1827 for a "Ann Preston" age 59 >> and born >> "Glamis"...no reference to husband. She could be my Ann >> McDonald >> Preston? > She could, and in my opinion probably is, but be aware that > married women are often recorded under their maiden names, even > after they marry. > > HTH > > Anne > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >