This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ANGELAH Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5515.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You are all providing a wealth of information, my many thanks. I didn't realize how little I knew! To answer Gordon's question on dates - Isaac and Mary were married in 1836. Their first two children were born in 1837 and 1838, but their baptisms do not appear in the OPR's on scotlandspeople site (which, you pointed out, may be a 'clue'). By 1841, they were in England where their third child was born. In 1844, they left for the US so were gone before civil registrations began. Isaac and Mary's marriage is included in the OPR's on the scotlandspeople site, and the extract is also listed on familysearch which I assume is the same record on microfilm. I can't find the first two children's bapstim records on either site. I have a copy of the third child's English civil birth record from another researcher. The remaining children were born in the US. I appreciate the ideas on where else to search - the local churches, alternate churches, trades organizations. I'm not sure if any of these would be accessible from a distance but can check. At least there is a glimmer of hope that there is more information to be found! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.