Hi David Robert Bremner Born 20 Feb 1906 at 1H 0M AM at 22 Fergus Street Arbroath Parents Robert Cargill Bremner Occupation Labourer Wife Madeline ------ Maiden name Fox They married 18 July 1903 Arbrough Informant of birth father Robert Bremner Marriage 17 July 1903 at 3 Elliot Street arbroath Robert Bremner Occupation Painter age 24 living at 20 Seagate Arbroath Parents Thomas Bremner Steverdore this is a Dock worker Wife Ann Maiden name Pearson ann was Deceased Madeline Petrie Fox Occupation Domestic Servant age 23 living at 3 Elliot Street Arbroath Parents William Fox Occupation Ironworker Wife Mary Maden name Reid Robert Cargill Bremner Born 9 Mar 1878 Arbroath Madeline Petrie Fox Born 4 Nov 1879 Arbroath Can sen you the certs if you would like Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: <davidevanlloyd@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ANGUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: [ANGUS] Bremner > Thanks Anne . He had one child Jill born 1932 . Regards .david

1881 census at 44 Marketgate, Arbroath Thomas Bremner, seaman, 36, Arbroath Ann Bremner, 36, St Vigeans Robert Bremner, 3, Arbroath John Bremner, 1, Arbroath The marriage is not in the IGI at www.familysearch.org which suggests that they must have been married between 1875 and 1877. You should be able to get the marriage certificate from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (SP) - this will tell you the names of Thomas' and Ann's parents. at 19 Fergus Square, St Vigeans William Fox, mechanic in flax mill, 40, Barry Mary Fox, 41, St Vigeans Ann Fox, reeler in flax mill, 18, Carmyllie Catherine Fox, spinner in flax mill, 16 David R Fox, worker in flax h mach, 13 Mary Fox, flaxworker in mill half time worker, 11 William S Fox, 6 Isabella Fox, 3 Madeline P Fox, 1 All the younger children born in Arbroath. Fergus Square is in the part of the town of Arbroath which is in the parish of St Vigeans as opposed to the parish of Arbroath itself. William Fox and Mary Reid were married in Camyllie on 11 April 1862. Again, the marriage certificate will tell you the names of their parents. I see that the IGI has an 'extracted' reference to William Fox, born 18 and baptised 28 February 1841 in Barry to David Fox and Janet Smith. There are two references to the marriage of David and Janet; on 2 April 1831 in Barry and on 23 April 1831 in St Vigeans. This means that the banns were called in both parishes, and tells you that at the time of their marriage one of them lived in Barry and the other in St Vigeans. The original entries will clarify which; you can view them at SP. The other children of David and Janet were: Margaret Fox, baptised 3 April 1832, Barry Alexander Fox, baptised 4 July 1836, Barry James Fox, baptised 4 July 1836, Barry Agnes Fox, baptised 30 December 1838, Barry Ann Smith Fox, baptised 15 April 1843, Arbirlot Mary Fox, baptised 13 April 1845, Arbirlot Isabella Fox, born 5 January 1848, Arbirlot (a 'submitted' entry) There is a 'submitted' reference saying that Alexander Fox married Ann Hill on 18 June 1862 in Barry. This can be verified by getting the marriage certificate from SP. (In the IGI, an 'extracted' reference is transcribed directly from an original source, such as a parish register, and such references are usually reliable, but should be checked by looking at the original. 'Submitted' references could be from anyone, and in some cases may be pure fiction, so it is essential to verify them by tracking down an original document.) The 1841 census records David Fox, linen hand loom weaver, 30, with wife Janet, 30 living in the village of Carnoustie, parish of Barry, with Catherine, 7; Alexander, 5; James, 5; Agnes, 2 and William, 3 months. All were born in Angus. That's probably enough to be going on with meantime. HTH Anne