A point missed in the several replies is that Dundee was, administratively, part of Angus (or Forfarshire) though, like the other main towns in the county, was run internally by its own Town Council. I have been searching for a date (and confirmation) which I can't find in the Wikipedia entry on Dundee or another "historical" web-site. It is my belief that Dundee became a self-governing entity (I think in Scotland this was called a "Police Burgh") administratively outside Angus/Forfarshire although geographically still in the same place. I think this was about 1895 but I would like some confirmation. While Dundee was (still is) listed as "Dundee, Forfar", in the IGI for example, that means Dundee Forfarshire/Angus, some of the surrounding Parishes are listed as Mains (for example), Forfar (or Angus). As Dundee expanded, some of the suburbs, and their associated Parishes, remained in Angus. However, as Anne explained, many of these outlying districts were incorporated into Dundee (and they are still trying to get more) with the result that their modern records are held by Dundee Council rather than Angus. This is particularly noticeable in the burial records in DeceasedonLine. I have noticed that several Listers have been baffled by the absence of a burial record for family members who they know to have lived in "Mains, Forfar" (the Parish of Mains in Forfarshire/Angus). Quite appart from the fact the the Parishes of Mains and Strathmartin amalgamated, the former churchyards are now in Dundee's administrative area and only the Forfarshire/Angus records, held by Angus Council, appear on DeceasedonLine. There are/were other considerations such as the children on one side of a certain street in the Broughty Ferry/Monifieth area having to travel to Carnoustie for their secondary education (Angus Council admin.) while those on the other side could attend a very good secondary school in Broughty Ferry (Dundee admin.). And that's all still fairly simple! Cheers, Bruce D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Carson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Dundee -- Once Forfar now Angus -- When? Many thanks for a very clear and concise explanation - from one who was born and bred in Dundee - and thoroughly confused by the various 'reorganisations' the happened whilst I was living in the deep south of England and not paying attention to what was happening 'at home' because I was too busy bringing up a family!! Pat "Here's tae us! Wha's like us? Damn few! - an' they're a' deid!" Old Scots Toast Check out my website www.genesontheweb.co.uk PC>-----Original Message----- PC>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On PC>Behalf Of Anne Burgess PC>Sent: 27 July 2011 16:52 PC>To: [email protected]; [email protected] PC>Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Dundee -- Once Forfar now Angus -- When? PC> PC>> Can SKS tell me when Dundee went from PC>> being considered a part of Forfar to PC>> then being considered a part of Angus? PC> PC>It did, or it didn't, depending on how you look at things and what time PC>period you are thinking about. PC> PC>First of all, the county of Angus, which includes the city of Dundee, was PC>known by officialdom (but not necessarily by the inhabitants) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3791 - Release Date: 07/27/11