Angus was never a burgh! Re-read the item you referred to. It says Dundee was a Royal Burgh in the county of Angus. I get over all the problems by always citing the county as Angus in my database. As someone else mentioned, the name Forfarshire was treated as a temporary aberration!. The 1995 local government reorganisation was 16th May 1995. It sticks inm my mind as I was present at the opening of a new school by the old county council of Aberdeenshire on the day before reorganisation. From the next day I stopped being employed as a librarian by Aberdeenshire County Council, and was instead employed by a joint committee representing three of the new District Councils. It turned out to be a GOOD THING, as the joint committee was strictly non-political.... Gordon. On 27/07/2011 18:03, Marilyn wrote: > I also found this reference to Dundee as being a part of the burgh of Angus in 1803, so now am wondering when it went from Angus to Forfar, now that we've resolved the Forfar-Angus (1929) issue. REf:http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ANS/Dundee/index.html. This transition is important to me in referencing the BMD's of my family and records for them appear to begin ~ 1800 in Dundee.

Yes, absolutely correct, Gordon, as always -- I stand corrected and should have more carefully recorded what I read. Thanks again to all for this discussion on administrative districts and jurisdictions, however convoluted! It's been most interesting, and helpful. I like Gordon's approach to always citing the county as Angus, since the name Forfarshire was "treated as a temporary aberration!" That answers part two of my initial question. Thanks again to all! I've been "out of touch" and off the list for several years now and so nice to see some of the familiar regulars out there! Marilyn US RESEARCHING: Powrie, Innes, Bruce, Reid, Hay (town of Forfar) Dundee 1800-1920-ish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Angus > Angus was never a burgh! > Re-read the item you referred to. It says Dundee was a Royal Burgh in > the county of Angus. > I get over all the problems by always citing the county as Angus in my > database. As someone else mentioned, the name Forfarshire was treated as > a temporary aberration!. > The 1995 local government reorganisation was 16th May 1995. It sticks > inm my mind as I was present at the opening of a new school by the old > county council of Aberdeenshire on the day before reorganisation. From > the next day I stopped being employed as a librarian by Aberdeenshire > County Council, and was instead employed by a joint committee > representing three of the new District Councils. It turned out to be a > GOOD THING, as the joint committee was strictly non-political.... > Gordon. > > > On 27/07/2011 18:03, Marilyn wrote: >> I also found this reference to Dundee as being a part of the burgh of >> Angus in 1803, so now am wondering when it went from Angus to Forfar, now >> that we've resolved the Forfar-Angus (1929) issue. >> REf:http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ANS/Dundee/index.html. This >> transition is important to me in referencing the BMD's of my family and >> records for them appear to begin ~ 1800 in Dundee. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Other than the obvious making nails for houses, what might a nailer be relative to the weaving business? I did a search and found a reference to old occupations in England (below) which refer to a nailer relative to the wool carding machines. Presume this would be applicable to the jute industry as well. Was the jute industry already starting/flourishing by this time in Dundee? Is that why folks might have moved there from (for example) Sterlingshire? My William Innes and sons William (and presumably James) were in Dundee by 1822, and both give either nailer or nail maker as their trades. (But not in the 1818 Directory). (Son James was a saw maker/saw repairer, Small's Wynd). What was a change keeper? REF: Hall Genealogy Website: Old Occupations 1) Made iron nails by hand 2) Maintained the teeth (nails) on the carding machine used on wool & cotton before weaving