> I've looked in that past at deceased online and haven't > found much. Nothing > related to my family and they don't seem to have the Howff > records on there. No, they don't. Deceased Online has the records held by Angus Council. The area covered by Angus Council is not the same as the area of the County of Angus. Specifically, the area of the City of Dundee, which is in the historic County of Angus, is not administered by Angus Council, therefore its records are not held by Angus Council and are not on Deceased Online. The City of Dundee includes not only the parish of Dundee, but also part or all of the parishes of Liff and Benvie, Mains and Strathmartine, Monifieth and Invergowrie, so if your people aren't on Deceased Online and you think they were buried in one of these parishes, the records may be held by Dundee City Council. This is one of the few circumstances in which it is necessary to know which areas/towns/parishes are administered by the current local authorities rather than the historic county/town/burgh/city councils which were abolished in the local government reorganisation in 1975, and again in 1995. Anne