This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: raymondtheresearcher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/6005/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Daniel Swankie, age 21, brickwork labourer, Lilliehill, Dunfermline, married Christina McConnell, age 17, domestic servant, Urghart farm, Dumfermline, 17, July, 1903. At the United free church Transy, Dunfermline, Witnesses , were William Swankie and Bella Mathie Parents of Daniel Swankie David Swankie, fisherman, and Isabella Swankie, nee Cargill Parents of Christina McConnell, and Marion Stobo McConnell William McConnell, Railway engine stoker, and Marion McConnell, nee Stobo John Mearns, son of James and Catherine Mearns, born 1883, occupation ,Dock Labourer, not on the1881 census, John married Marion Stobo McConnell, he died in the North Poorhouse, of TB, Nov.7,1907,James was 25 and Catherine 19, Daniel Swankie Mearns, born March 22. 1908, father, John Mearns, died , Nov.7,1907,mother Marion Mearns nee McConnell. Marion Stobo Mearns remarried James Rodgers, Marion died 29 April 1922, (heart attack), age 38 in Nilsensland, Bonkle road, Newmains, Parents of Marion were. William McConnell, railway surface man, and Marion McConnell, nee Stobo Patrick Mearns Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: raymondtheresearcher Surnames: Swankie, McConnell. Stobo, Mearns, Cargill Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/6004/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks to you good folks for your tips. Some more information the Swankie family.help needed for Patrick Mearns,on any living decendants. Daniel Swankie, age 21, brickwork labourer, Lilliehill, Dunfermline, married Christina McConnell, age 17, domestic servant, Urghart farm, Dumfermline, 17, July, 1903. At the United free church Transy, Dunfermline, Parents of Daniel Swankie David Swankie, fisherman, and Isabella Swankie, nee Cargill Parents of Christina McConnell, and Marion Stobo McConnell William McConnell, Railway engine stoker, and Marion McConnell, nee Stobo Witnesses , were William Swankie and Bella Mathie John Mearns, son of James and Catherine Mearns, born 1883, occupation ,Dock Labourer, not on the1881 census, John married Marion Stobo McConnell, he died in the North Poorhouse, of TB, Nov.7,1907,James was 25 and Catherine 19, Daniel Swankie Mearns, born March 22. 1908, father, John Mearns, died , Nov.7,1907,mother Marion Mearns nee McConnell. Marion Stobo Mearns remarried James Rodgers, Marion died 29 April 1922, (heart attack), age 38 in Nilsensland, Bonkle road, Newmains, Parents of Marion were. William McConnell, railway surface man, and Marion McConnell, nee Stobo Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Forfarian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/6003.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: A parent search on www.familysearch.org for David Swankie and Isabella Cargill turns up 7 children, all born in St Vigeans between 1861 and 1873. Daniel would be too young to be listed as the FamilySearch listing only goes to 1874. David and Isabella were married in St Vigeans on 11 October 1861. Go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and invest in a few credits at modest cost. Use 6 of them to find and download the marriage certificate of David and Isabella. It will tell you the full names of both sets of parents, including their mothers' maiden names. You can use another six to find the marriage of William McConnell and Marion Stobo. You'll still have enough to look at three more certificates or census returns if you get your search right. Happy hunting! Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

A parent search on www.familysearch.org for David Swankie and Isabella Cargill turns up 7 children, all born in St Vigeans between 1861 and 1873. Daniel would be too young to be listed as the FamilySearch listing only goes to 1874. David and Isabella were married in St Vigeans on 11 October 1861. Go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and invest in a few credits at modest cost. Use 6 of them to find and download the marriage certificate of David and Isabella. It will tell you the full names of both sets of parents, including their mothers' maiden names. You can use another six to find the marriage of William McConnell and Marion Stobo. You'll still have enough to look at three more certificates or census returns if you get your search right. Happy hunting! Anne ________________________________ From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: ANGUS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2013, 16:47 Subject: [ANGUS] Swankie This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: raymondtheresearcher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/6003/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Information wanted on ther following ancestors. Daniel Swankie, age 21, brickwork labourer, Lilliehill, Dunfermline, married Christina McConnell, age 17, domestic servant, Urghart farm, Dumfermline, 17, July, 1903. Parents of Daniel Swankie David Swankie, fisherman, and Isabella Swankie, nee Cargill Parents of Christina McConnell, and Marion Stobo McConnell William McConnell, Railway engine stoker, and Marion McConnell, nee Stobo Raymond Kelly Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: farfarloon Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/6003.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My first reaction to the surname Swankie is "Arbroath". When I read "fisherman" (for the father) that just about confirms it and the clincher is the mother's maiden name, Cargill. Swankie and Cargill are two to the most commonly found surnames in the fishing community of Arbroath. Try ScotlandsPeople remembering that the parish could also be St Vigeans. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: raymondtheresearcher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/6003/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Information wanted on ther following ancestors. Daniel Swankie, age 21, brickwork labourer, Lilliehill, Dunfermline, married Christina McConnell, age 17, domestic servant, Urghart farm, Dumfermline, 17, July, 1903. Parents of Daniel Swankie David Swankie, fisherman, and Isabella Swankie, nee Cargill Parents of Christina McConnell, and Marion Stobo McConnell William McConnell, Railway engine stoker, and Marion McConnell, nee Stobo Raymond Kelly Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi List & Nivard, Thank you very much. I will follow-up with ScotlandsPeople etc. Cheers Jonathan > > If the 1901 entry below is yours (from Ancestry) > > 1901 Scotland Census about George Gibson > Name: George Gibson > Age: 42 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 > Relationship: Head > Spouse's name : Elizabeth Gibson > Gender: Male > Where born: Arbroath, Forfarshire > Registration number: 272/1 > Registration district: Arbroath > Civil parish: Arbroath and St Vigeans > Town: Arbroath > County: Angus > Address: 33 Fisheracre Montrose Road > Occupation: Tealor > ED: 14 > Household schedule number: 25 > Line: 6 > Roll: CSSCT1901_86 > Household Members: > Name Age > George Gibson 42 > Elizabeth Gibson 39 > Lizzie Gibson 17 > George Gibson 15 > William Gibson 12 > Violet Gibson 8 > James Gibson 5 > Charles Gibson 2 > Mary B Gibson 10mo > > Source Citation: Parish: Arbroath and St Vigeans; ED: 14; Page: 4; Line: > 6; Roll: CSSCT1901_86. > > Source Information: > Ancestry.com. 1901 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: > Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007. > Original data: Scotland. 1901 Scotland Census. Reels 1-446. General > Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland. > > ----------- > > There are two interesting entries for 1891 on Ancestry and findmypast > > On Ancestry is > > > 1891 Scotland Census about Lizzie Gibson > Name: Lizzie Gibson > Age: 7 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 > Relationship: Daur (Daughter) > Father's Name: Robert R Wright > Mother's Name: Isabella Wright > Gender: Female > Where born: Forfarshire, Arbroath > Registration number: 272 > Registration district: Arbroath > Civil parish: Arbroath and St Vigeans > Town: Arbroath > County: Angus > Address: 13 Palmer Str > Occupation: Scholar > ED: 18 > Household schedule number: 370 > Line: 1 > Roll: CSSCT1891_82 > Household Members: > Name Age > Robert R Wright 20 > Isabella Wright 21 > Annie C Culbert 9 > Lizzie Gibson 7 > George Gibson 5 > Mary B Gibson 3 > William Gibson 2 > > Source Citation: Parish: Arbroath and St Vigeans; ED: 18; Page: 66; > Line: 1; Roll: CSSCT1891_82. > > (NB in 1891 although the family group shown above in the Ancestry > transcript, when you click on each individual, the GIBSONs are at number > 13 Palmer st, the WRIGHTs and CULBERT are at number 7, so clearly a mix > up) > > > And on Findmypast is the following family > > GEORGE GIBSON 1859 32 HEAD TAILOR JOURNEYMAN > ELIZABETH GIBSON 1862 29 WIFE > LIZZIE GIBSON 1884 7 DAUGHTER > GEORGE GIBSON 1886 5 SON > MARY B GIBSON 1888 3 DAUGHTER > WILLIAM GIBSON 1889 2 SON > > Address Palmer Street > > No reference is given on findmypast except RG12 > Parish: ST VIGEANS > Town: ARBROATH > County: Forfarshire (Angus) > Country: SCOTLAND > Enumeration District: 18 > Registration District: ARBROATH > > > If this is the right family and it appears to be given the 1901 entry, > it appears Ancestry have a mix up with two families, and Findmypast have > missed off Lizzie by the looks of it > > I would suggest trying scotlandspeople and get the image to check what > is on that > > Corrections can be added to Ancestry, not so on findmypast worldwide, > although they say that facility is coming at some point > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > On 19/01/2013 00:35, Jonathan Gentry wrote: > > > > Hi List, > > > > George GIBSON married Elizabeth REID at Arbroath on 23 Feb 1883. > > > > I have been unable to find this couple and their children in the 1891 census. > > > > Can anyone tell me where they were ? > > > > I think the family were in Arbroath for the 1901 at 33 Fisherarce Montrose Rd. > > > > Cheers > > Jonathan in Toronto, Canada > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List & Mary, Thank you for this particular item.. > _Mary Bell Gibson_ (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FMF8-HWR) > Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927 birth 1901 marriage 04 Dec 1924 Toronto, > York, Ontario, Canada > * parentGeorge Gibson, Elizabeth Reid > * spouseJoseph Lennox > It seems at least some of the children came to Toronto. Followed by their father. Thanks again for your input. Cheers Jonathan

Hi Jonathan If the 1901 entry below is yours (from Ancestry) 1901 Scotland Census about George Gibson Name: George Gibson Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Elizabeth Gibson Gender: Male Where born: Arbroath, Forfarshire Registration number: 272/1 Registration district: Arbroath Civil parish: Arbroath and St Vigeans Town: Arbroath County: Angus Address: 33 Fisheracre Montrose Road Occupation: Tealor ED: 14 Household schedule number: 25 Line: 6 Roll: CSSCT1901_86 Household Members: Name Age George Gibson 42 Elizabeth Gibson 39 Lizzie Gibson 17 George Gibson 15 William Gibson 12 Violet Gibson 8 James Gibson 5 Charles Gibson 2 Mary B Gibson 10mo Source Citation: Parish: Arbroath and St Vigeans; ED: 14; Page: 4; Line: 6; Roll: CSSCT1901_86. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1901 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007. Original data: Scotland. 1901 Scotland Census. Reels 1-446. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland. ----------- There are two interesting entries for 1891 on Ancestry and findmypast On Ancestry is 1891 Scotland Census about Lizzie Gibson Name: Lizzie Gibson Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Father's Name: Robert R Wright Mother's Name: Isabella Wright Gender: Female Where born: Forfarshire, Arbroath Registration number: 272 Registration district: Arbroath Civil parish: Arbroath and St Vigeans Town: Arbroath County: Angus Address: 13 Palmer Str Occupation: Scholar ED: 18 Household schedule number: 370 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1891_82 Household Members: Name Age Robert R Wright 20 Isabella Wright 21 Annie C Culbert 9 Lizzie Gibson 7 George Gibson 5 Mary B Gibson 3 William Gibson 2 Source Citation: Parish: Arbroath and St Vigeans; ED: 18; Page: 66; Line: 1; Roll: CSSCT1891_82. (NB in 1891 although the family group shown above in the Ancestry transcript, when you click on each individual, the GIBSONs are at number 13 Palmer st, the WRIGHTs and CULBERT are at number 7, so clearly a mix up) And on Findmypast is the following family GEORGE GIBSON 1859 32 HEAD TAILOR JOURNEYMAN ELIZABETH GIBSON 1862 29 WIFE LIZZIE GIBSON 1884 7 DAUGHTER GEORGE GIBSON 1886 5 SON MARY B GIBSON 1888 3 DAUGHTER WILLIAM GIBSON 1889 2 SON Address Palmer Street No reference is given on findmypast except RG12 Parish: ST VIGEANS Town: ARBROATH County: Forfarshire (Angus) Country: SCOTLAND Enumeration District: 18 Registration District: ARBROATH If this is the right family and it appears to be given the 1901 entry, it appears Ancestry have a mix up with two families, and Findmypast have missed off Lizzie by the looks of it I would suggest trying scotlandspeople and get the image to check what is on that Corrections can be added to Ancestry, not so on findmypast worldwide, although they say that facility is coming at some point Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 19/01/2013 00:35, Jonathan Gentry wrote: > > Hi List, > > George GIBSON married Elizabeth REID at Arbroath on 23 Feb 1883. > > I have been unable to find this couple and their children in the 1891 census. > > Can anyone tell me where they were ? > > I think the family were in Arbroath for the 1901 at 33 Fisherarce Montrose Rd. > > Cheers > Jonathan in Toronto, Canada

Hi List, George GIBSON married Elizabeth REID at Arbroath on 23 Feb 1883. I have been unable to find this couple and their children in the 1891 census. Can anyone tell me where they were ? I think the family were in Arbroath for the 1901 at 33 Fisherarce Montrose Rd. Cheers Jonathan in Toronto, Canada

jonathan, all over the map so I'm at a loss.... wish I could be more help.... Mary in Oregon _Jemima Reid Or Gibson_ (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F51Q-NYM) Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881 birth 03 Jun 1831 DROMORE PARISH,DOWN,IRELAND * parentGeorge Gibson, Elizabeth Reid * _Mary Bell Gibson_ (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FMF8-HWR) Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927 birth 1901 marriage 04 Dec 1924 Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada * parentGeorge Gibson, Elizabeth Reid * spouseJoseph Lennox * _Gibson_ (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT6J-24M) Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth 08 May 1891 Arbroath, Angus, Scotland residence 1891 Scotland * parentGeorge Gibson, Elizabeth Reid Gibson * In a message dated 1/18/2013 4:37:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jgentry@bell.net writes: Hi List, George GIBSON married Elizabeth REID at Arbroath on 23 Feb 1883. I have been unable to find this couple and their children in the 1891 census. Can anyone tell me where they were ? I think the family were in Arbroath for the 1901 at 33 Fisherarce Montrose Rd. Cheers Jonathan in Toronto, Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DoreenCuthbert Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/972.1013.1160.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jessi, Given that they married in 1856 (from other posts), you should be able to find their marriage cert on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk You will have to pay, but well worth it. Doreen Cuthbert Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paulamoncrieff Surnames: McIntosh Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/6001/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello all, trying to find out a bit more about the Butterburn area around 1820`s i know my gg grandad was born in the area. Wondered if it was farm land, jute industry around that time? I live in Dundee and i know Butterburn was Hilltown area but not much else My grandads name was Alexander McIntosh born 1822..(.1814 a possiblity)Master Seaman married and went to Australia in 1852 and i have managed to find out a great deal about his time in Oz but not a trace of him in Dundee except 1841 census. and his marriage in 1852 ..would love to find out about his parents but dont even have names for them. Any information about Butterburn would be a starting point and greatly appreciated Thanks Paula Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pipercurrie Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/972.1013.1160.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi do you know where I can find the marriage certifacate for Robert Carrie and Jessie Hutton, I have never been able to locate it.. They are my GGGreat grandparents Much thanks!!! Or please contact me via email piper.currie@hotmail.com Jessi Currie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ovington1_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/6000.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, >From Ancestry outgoing passenger lists Empress of France Line Canadian Pacific Departure June 8th 1921 For Quebec >From Liverpool ROBERTSON Annie 35 Housewife James 15 scholar Elizabeth 11 scholar Stewart 10 scholar Alexander 5 scholar Henry 3 scholar Address for all 104 Rosebank Street Dundee If you go to scotlandspeople and search for any of the children, civil births in scotland generally record the marriage of the parents with place, date You can then search for that marriage fairly confidently, armed with the fathers name Minimum spend is 7 pounds for 30 credits, 1 credit for the search results at a max of 25 per page, then 5 credits for the image of the registration, then the death reg of the father http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ NJO Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: josephw5050 Surnames: Robertson & Gordon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/6000/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for a marrage on Ann Gordon bte.1885 Dundee who had married a Robertson bef.1904 There Children our James born Jan.01-1904-Eliza A. born Jul.01-1909-Steward C.born Sep.23-1910-Alexander Henry born Mar.06-1912-Henry K.born Apr.22-1917-Ann and kids left abt.1921 to Qc.than Ont.1928 Mich. USA.Need who Ann Married and her Parents.She was a Wd.on the Ship.Ann and kids don't list there father on death record. All Ship record state there from Dundee. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hennymac Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1759.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Karen Andrew McCONNOCHIE who lived in Timaru was my sisters father-in-law. I can be contacted at hennymac1941@yahoo.co.nz I compiled the McCONNOCHIe tree for my sister. Helen McNamara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hennymac Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1759.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Andrew McCONNOCHIE who lived in Timaru was my sisters father-in-law. I can be contacted at hennymac1941@yahoo.co.nz I compiled the McCONNOCHIe tree for my sister. Helen McNamara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WendyToohey58 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1759.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Andrew McConnochie was a brother of Robertha - both born in Scotland. Lived in Timaru. Is our Andrew my grandmother's brother?? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.