Nancy, I googled Invery and find there is an Invery House overlooking the Water of Feugh and lies 1 mile (1.5 km) south of Banchory, so this is probably the area you are looking for, although it states that the house is actually in the neighbouring parish of Strachan, the boundary of which lies just to the south of Banchory. Kind regards Alex. GrayRutherglen, Scotland

> Catherine's baptism is not there, you are correct. The only > reason I know she exists is from an > old hand written note that another family member has. Fair enough. > Secondly, when I received some of the documents today, there > was a child born between James > and William. William's > baptism record said he was third born. What happened to that > child is a > mystery. Not at all. James was born in 1827, and William in 1835. So clearly the missing child is Catherine, who you say was born in 1833. And unless you have good evidence to the contrary, it is likely that she died before the 1841 census, as she is not with her family or, as far as I can see from the transcription at FreeCEN, with anyone else nearby. > I ordered the marriage record for William Lawson and Mary Keir > today. William was son of > James occupation Journeyman Joiner - deceased. That answers > that question. Yes. It also narrows down the search for him. You should be able to find William and Elizabeth in the 1861 census in Dundee, and the original will tell you whether James had already died, and whether there were any other siblings. If James was alive in 1861, there should be a death certificate. > It made no mention of whether or not Elizabeth (nee Crabb) was > deceased or not, so she was > probably still alive. I see that James Lawson and Elisabeth Crabb were married in Glamis on 5 January 1847. Elizabeth Lawson or Crabb died in Dundee in 1897, aged 73. So she would have been born in 1823/4. Her death certificate should tell you the full names of her parents. I have thoughts about that, but there is no point speculating unncessarily. > This William, his wife Mary Keir and children did stay in > Dundee. I am eager to trace them for > any members of family still there existing. It won't be easy. > There is nothing on ancestry.com. Probably a good thing. You won't be misled by wrong information. > I feel comfortable saying that Agnes Volume is the daughter of > James Volume and Catherine > Neil. James and Catherine also had a son David that named one > of his children Alexander > Lawson Volume. It's circumstantial, but good enough for me. > All things do seem to tie to James > Volume. Yes. Also that she named her first daughter Catherine. Happy hunting! Anne

A wee bit more on the VOLUMEs: James Volume and Catherine Neill were living in Kirriemuir in the 1851 census. My copy is difficult to read regarding their ages (so I wouldn't trust ancestry.com's reading of them either) but James was a grocer and cow feeder, and born in Oathlaw. James died in Kirriemuir on 16 June 1868 at the Almshouse, a pauper, formerly farm servant. He was age 87, the widower of Catherine Neil. His father's given name was blank (but was probably Thomas), a farm servant, and his mother was Janet DONALD, both were deceased. The informant was his son David. David Volume, son of James and Catherine and brother to Agnes, was also living in Kirriemuir in 1851 with his wife and 6 of his first 7 children. Alexander is missing, and since a later child was also named Alexander, it is probable that he died young. David Volume died 18 October 1881 in Kirriemuir, age 70. He was a shoemaker (journeyman) married to Janet McWATTIE. The registration confirms his parents as James Volume and Catherine Neill. His informant was his son Robert H. Volume. Another child of David Volume and Janet McWattie was Margaret. She married 15 February 1867 in South Muir, Kirriemuir at the age of 21 to James H. Watson, mason (journeyman), age 23, residing Bellar Brae, Kirriemuir, son of James Hay Watson, tailor, and Marjory Findlay. Irene, in Michigan

Dear Anne, First of all, thank you very much for all the time it took you to respond to my email. I'll answer your questions as best I can! First of all, you prompted me today to go onto Scotland's people. They made a fair amount of money off of me today, but I am happy with the answers I got for the most part. Catherine's baptism is not there, you are correct. The only reason I know she exists is from an old hand written note that another family member has. Secondly, when I received some of the documents today, there was a child born between James and William. William's baptism record said he was third born. What happened to that child is a mystery. I'm looking forward to looking for Lappie Dub Park one day. Thank you for the information since that is a local's term for the place now. I'm slightly jealous that you looked out your window onto it and I've never seen it! One day for me for sure!!! I ordered the marriage record for Willilam Lawson and Mary Keir today. William was son of James occupation Journeyman Joiner - deceased. That answers that question. It made no mention of whether or not Elizabeth (nee Crabb) was deceased or not, so she was probably still alive. This William, his wife Mary Keir and children did stay in Dundee. I am eager to trace them for any members of family still there existing. It won't be easy. There is nothing on ancestry.com. I feel comfortable saying that Agnes Volume is the daughter of James Volume and Catherine Neil. James and Catherine also had a son David that named one of his children Alexander Lawson Volume. It's circumstantial, but good enough for me. All things do seem to tie to James Volume. Now the fun of trying to trace everyone starts! Sincerely, Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Anne Burgess <anne.burgess@btinternet.com> To: angus <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Feb 23, 2013 5:48 am Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Lawson and Volume family - new to the list According to www.familysearch.org the dates of birth of the boys are James, born 29 August, baptised 8 September 1827, Airlie William, born 11 June, baptised 21 June 1835, Forfar Alexander, born 17 May, baptised 29 May 1842, Forfar Catherine's baptism doesn't seem to be in the records at all. How do you know that she actually existed? I see that the family were living in Lappydub Park in Forfar in 1841: William, 40; Agnes, 35; James, 13 and William, 5. (The Lappie Dub was just across St James' Road from my parents' and my grandmother's houses; we could see it from our front windows. It was all demolished some time in the 1950s or maybe 1960s. Its official name was St James' Terrace) The absence of Catherine, who would have been about seven, suggests that she probably died in early childhood. In 1881 grandson William was living at 19 Ferry Road, Dundee, aged 30, with Mary, 25, Margt, 7, Alfred, 6 and William, 10 months. (That is a very long gap between Alfred and William - there could have been two more children who died young.) Assuming grandson William's age in the 1881 census to be correct, he would have been born in between 3 April 1850 and 2 April 1851 (In 1881 the census was taken on the night of 3 April). So he must have been conceived no later than early July 1850. Son William was born on 11 June 1835. In early July 1850 he would have been just 15. It is possible that he fathered grandson William, but the overwhelming likelihood is that son James was the father. If grandson William was illegitimate, there may be a record of his parents in the minutes of the Glamis Kirk Session. If these survive, they should be in the National Archives of Scotland www.nas.gov.uk William Lawson and Mary Keir were married in 1873. You can get an image of the marriage certificate from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk at modest cost. This should tell you the full names of all their parents, including their mothers' maiden surnames. As for Agnes' family online, the golden rule is, never believe anything you find online. Use the online information as a guide to doing your own research. I am sure everyone on this List could tell you horror stories of fictitious trees with non-existent people, children being attributed to the wrong parents and people becoming parents years after they have died! Having said that, I note that her listing on MyHeritage refers to her son James, but you have to subscribe to MyHeritage to view more than the basics. Ancestry also has some references to her, suggesting that her parents were James Volume and Catherine Neil, and that she was born in 1806. FamilySearch says that the daughter of James Volume and Catherine Neil was baptised on 13 January 1805. As the latter date is from the Latter Day Saints' indexing project, it's likely to be reliable. Hope this helps. Anne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Liz, George Meik's brief entry in "£Scottish Episcopal Clergy, 1689-2001, ed. David M. Bertie, says: MEIK, George, M.A. St. Andrews University; M.A. 23 July 1672. Passed trials before the Presbytery of St. Andrews, and had a testimonial for licence, 18 Aug 1675. Was an expectant, 31 Aug 1679. Incumbent: Coylton (before 12 Dec 1682) - 1683. Incumbent, Straiton1683-1689. Driven from his charge in 1689. (source of Bertie's data: Fasti Ecclesiae Scotticanae). In 1691, George Meik appealed to the Privy Council of Scotland for his stipend for 1689, as he had been thrown out of his charge, and had previously put a new roof on the manse at his expense. The Privy Council allowed this, but later in the year the Straiton church chalenged this, and the Presbytery of Ayr provided a certificate to say that he had left voluntarily in November 1688, and the present minister had preached since then. The Privy Council considered both claims, and settled on George Meik getting the stipend for the first half of the year, and the other minister, Kennedy, getting it for the second half. (source: Register of the Privy Council of Scotland, 1691). On 23/02/2013 08:00, Liz said: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:30:04 -0800 From: harvieandliz <hebarker@shaw.ca> Subject: [ANGUS] Isobell Nisbett, then- Lindsay, Robertson, Meik 1700s To: "angus@rootsweb.com" <ANGUS@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4c33d3af7479cd01113e7a10fcbd9216@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed My main query for this list is : "who was Isobell Nisbett"? I have found that Rev George Meik "late minister of Straiton.. [lost his parish in 1689].. thereafter heritor of Drimmie", married sometime between 1703 and 1705 to ISABELL NISBETT. Isobell Nisbett had been married first [before 1693] to Robert Lindsay, merchant of Dundee, and they had at least 4 children baptised at Dundee between 1693 and 1698. Then, before 1701, Robert Lindsay must have died because there was a marriage at Dundee 1701 for Isobell Nisbett to Thomas Robertson, and she was later described as "relict of Thomas Robertson, merchant of Dundee" in a 1703 document. Then, she was by 1705 "spouse of George Meik" above. I believe that Isobell Nisbett brought money into the Meik marriage, as she seemed to be related to William Lindsay Bailie Depute of Kirriemuir and likely somehow to David Lindsay; all the legal papers relative to Logie Wishart and stretching from 1701 -1723, named William Lindsay and James Wishart amongst others; seemed to end up with David Kinloch having the lands by 1723. 3000 merks Scots money was mentioned as a Bond? I believe that Isobell Nisbett was the mother of JOHN MEIK who was served heir to his father George Meik in 1713. He must have been quite young in 1713. A 1723 document, goes as follows: .."...Thomas Meik for myself And as Tutor and curator nominate by the deceased Master George Meik ....heritor of Drimmie to John Meik his eldest son and Heir..." [referring back to 1711 and 1712] and later in same document..."the said Isobel Nisbet and the said Master George Meik and the said John Meik their eldest son And all others..". The final document of 1723 was Dispositon & Assignation Thomas and James Meik to David Kinloch. All the documents are GD243/19/10 at NAS relative to claims of heirs of George Meik on lands of Logie Wishart. The various documents seem to be Assignations, Retrocessions, and Dispositions and refer to Bonds...I find them very confusing, many seem to be reviews [Inventar?] of previous ones. Thomas and James Meik outlived George Meik it seems. [James of Ledcassie and Thomas of Marywell]. I would welcome some help with Isobell Nisbett and some thoughts on the documents. thanks Liz of BC Canada ------------------------------

According to www.familysearch.org the dates of birth of the boys are James, born 29 August, baptised 8 September 1827, Airlie William, born 11 June, baptised 21 June 1835, Forfar Alexander, born 17 May, baptised 29 May 1842, Forfar Catherine's baptism doesn't seem to be in the records at all. How do you know that she actually existed? I see that the family were living in Lappydub Park in Forfar in 1841: William, 40; Agnes, 35; James, 13 and William, 5. (The Lappie Dub was just across St James' Road from my parents' and my grandmother's houses; we could see it from our front windows. It was all demolished some time in the 1950s or maybe 1960s. Its official name was St James' Terrace) The absence of Catherine, who would have been about seven, suggests that she probably died in early childhood. In 1881 grandson William was living at 19 Ferry Road, Dundee, aged 30, with Mary, 25, Margt, 7, Alfred, 6 and William, 10 months. (That is a very long gap between Alfred and William - there could have been two more children who died young.) Assuming grandson William's age in the 1881 census to be correct, he would have been born in between 3 April 1850 and 2 April 1851 (In 1881 the census was taken on the night of 3 April). So he must have been conceived no later than early July 1850. Son William was born on 11 June 1835. In early July 1850 he would have been just 15. It is possible that he fathered grandson William, but the overwhelming likelihood is that son James was the father. If grandson William was illegitimate, there may be a record of his parents in the minutes of the Glamis Kirk Session. If these survive, they should be in the National Archives of Scotland www.nas.gov.uk William Lawson and Mary Keir were married in 1873. You can get an image of the marriage certificate from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk at modest cost. This should tell you the full names of all their parents, including their mothers' maiden surnames. As for Agnes' family online, the golden rule is, never believe anything you find online. Use the online information as a guide to doing your own research. I am sure everyone on this List could tell you horror stories of fictitious trees with non-existent people, children being attributed to the wrong parents and people becoming parents years after they have died! Having said that, I note that her listing on MyHeritage refers to her son James, but you have to subscribe to MyHeritage to view more than the basics. Ancestry also has some references to her, suggesting that her parents were James Volume and Catherine Neil, and that she was born in 1806. FamilySearch says that the daughter of James Volume and Catherine Neil was baptised on 13 January 1805. As the latter date is from the Latter Day Saints' indexing project, it's likely to be reliable. Hope this helps. Anne

thanks Gordon, I am wondering how George "lived" without his "living" after 1689...I am guessing that Thomas and James Meik were his brothers and somehow obtained Lands of Drimmie for him. George would have been about 50 when he married Isobell Nisbett... liz > In 1691, George Meik appealed to the Privy Council of Scotland for his > stipend for 1689, as he had been thrown out of his charge, and had > previously put a new roof on the manse at his expense. The Privy > Council > allowed this, but later in the year the Straiton church chalenged this, > and the Presbytery of Ayr provided a certificate to say that he had > left > voluntarily in November 1688, and the present minister had preached > since then. The Privy Council considered both claims, and settled on > George Meik getting the stipend for the first half of the year, and the > other minister, Kennedy, getting it for the second half. (source: > Register of the Privy Council of Scotland, 1691). >

Hello! I am new to the list! I am researching the following family and would love to hear from anyone related! William Lawson 1801 - Aft. 1841 born Angus Agnes Volume - his wife born Kirriemuir Children - James b. 1828 (Can't trace where he went) born Airlie Catherine b. 1833 (Can't trace where she went) William b. 1835 born Forfar Alexander b. 1843 born Forfar A grandson was born to Agnes Volume Lawson named William in about 1844 - 1851 in Glamis. He married a Mary Keir in Dundee and had at least four children named Margaret, Alfred, William and Agnes. I would love to hear from anyone related to this family because I would like to know who the father of William was and what family may still be alive and well in Dundee. As of 1903, Margaret was still unmarried in Dundee. I am aware of what happened with the families above of the brothers William and Alexander. They emigrated to the United States. I would also love to trace the family of William Lawson born in 1801. The family of Agnes Volume is somewhat available online! Thank you! Sandy Lovell

My main query for this list is : "who was Isobell Nisbett"? I have found that Rev George Meik "late minister of Straiton.. [lost his parish in 1689].. thereafter heritor of Drimmie", married sometime between 1703 and 1705 to ISABELL NISBETT. Isobell Nisbett had been married first [before 1693] to Robert Lindsay, merchant of Dundee, and they had at least 4 children baptised at Dundee between 1693 and 1698. Then, before 1701, Robert Lindsay must have died because there was a marriage at Dundee 1701 for Isobell Nisbett to Thomas Robertson, and she was later described as "relict of Thomas Robertson, merchant of Dundee" in a 1703 document. Then, she was by 1705 "spouse of George Meik" above. I believe that Isobell Nisbett brought money into the Meik marriage, as she seemed to be related to William Lindsay Bailie Depute of Kirriemuir and likely somehow to David Lindsay; all the legal papers relative to Logie Wishart and stretching from 1701 -1723, named William Lindsay and James Wishart amongst others; seemed to end up with David Kinloch having the lands by 1723. 3000 merks Scots money was mentioned as a Bond? I believe that Isobell Nisbett was the mother of JOHN MEIK who was served heir to his father George Meik in 1713. He must have been quite young in 1713. A 1723 document, goes as follows: .."...Thomas Meik for myself And as Tutor and curator nominate by the deceased Master George Meik ....heritor of Drimmie to John Meik his eldest son and Heir..." [referring back to 1711 and 1712] and later in same document..."the said Isobel Nisbet and the said Master George Meik and the said John Meik their eldest son And all others..". The final document of 1723 was Dispositon & Assignation Thomas and James Meik to David Kinloch. All the documents are GD243/19/10 at NAS relative to claims of heirs of George Meik on lands of Logie Wishart. The various documents seem to be Assignations, Retrocessions, and Dispositions and refer to Bonds...I find them very confusing, many seem to be reviews [Inventar?] of previous ones. Thomas and James Meik outlived George Meik it seems. [James of Ledcassie and Thomas of Marywell]. I would welcome some help with Isobell Nisbett and some thoughts on the documents. thanks Liz of BC Canada

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: willemvanGeenen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/2033.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you...thank you im verry happy i got somting maby i cant send you some foto,s ? yes i send them Meself was born in rotterdam ? and also i was living in dundee for a coupje of years till a was vijf or six years I now se has menny brothers an d one sis the go to africa Granny i have zien her many time,s ze was smal en tiny but a shame i can talk a litle englis...please let me no more if you cant Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SueHemburyKellow1999 Surnames: MCLANDERS, MURRAY, BOSELL, MOYES, PATON, MELVILLE, SCOTT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/2033.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Willem, Yes, I can help you with your family tree, and we are connected via the MCLANDERS family! Your mother was the daughter of Bert/Herbert MURRAY, who was born circa 1889, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England. His parents were Joseph MURRAY (born circa 1860, Bristol, Gloucestershire) and Elvira BOSWELL (born circa 1855, Bath, Somerset, England) who were married in 1885 at Barton Regis District, Bristol. In 1901, Joseph was working as a "Punchinello Proprietor" (a Punch and Judy puppet operator - a very English tradition!) though he was latterly described as a GeneraL Labourer. At some point, Bert MURRAY moved to Scotland, where he married Elizabeth MCLANDERS on 26 Dec 1919 at Dundee, Angus, Scotland. Elizabeth MCLANDERS was born about 1898 at Dundee, daughter of John William Paton MCLANDERS and Elizabeth Hill MOYES, who had married on 21 Jul 1893, St Peters, Dundee, Angus. John William Paton MCLANDERS was born 23 Feb 1869 at Dundee, Angus, and died in 1958 at Stracathro, Angus. He worked as a Ship Riveter at the Dundee shipyard. John's parents were Thomas MCLANDERS and Ann PATON, who were married on 18 Jul 1865 at 89, Princes Street, Dundee, Angus. Thomas and Ann were also my GG Grandparents, although I am descended from another of their children, Helen Walker MCLANDERS. Your MCLANDERS ancestry to Thomas MCLANDERS is as follows: David MCLANDERS, born circa 1750, perhaps at Kirkmichael, Perthshire. Occupation: Stone Dyker. Married Elspeth MELVILLE, 22 Aug 1778, Kirkmichael, Perthshire. | Alexander MCLANDERS, born 14 Mar 1785, Wester Pitcarmick, Kirkmichael, Perthshire; died before 1851. Occupation: Farm Servant/Grieve. Married Janet SCOTT, 2 Jun 1811, Rattray, Perthshire. | John Rattray MCLANDERS, born 23 Oct 1813, Courthills, Rattray, Perthshire; died before 1851. Occupation: Baker. Married Ann Whitson CRICHTON, date/location unknown. | Thomas MCLANDERS, born circa 1843, Alyth, Perthshire; died 26 Jul 1898, 63, Watson Street, Dundee, Angus. Cause of death: "Pneumonia". Occupation: Merchant Seaman/Ship Riveter/Boilermaker. Married Ann PATON, 18 Jul 1865, 89, Princes Street, Dundee, Angus. I hope you find the above interesting. If you would like more info, do please let me know, as I have loads more, and am happy to share family information! Best wishes, Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ClaudineLoertscher Surnames: Jacques Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1002.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I, too, am looking for information on David Jacques. I see that this post was made quite a long time ago and I am interested in seeing if you have found out any additional information on this family. I am a direct ancestor to David Jacques and would love to find out if anyone has any information on him or his family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Greg, Always remember that the only dumb question, is the one you don't asked. Cheers, Yvonne On 19/02/2013, at 7:00 PM, angus-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:24:22 +1100 > From: <ghwighton@bigpond.com> > Subject: [ANGUS] Illegible OPRs - Thank you > To: <ANGUS@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <0EBC15381CC74BC58C4CBEFA45E2EE74@GregPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi all, > > Many thanks for everyone?s assistance ? it is much appreciated. > > Special thanks to Anne ? maybe if I had read all SPs instructions fully and correctly I wouldn?t have to be asking such dumb questions! Sorry. > > I have now used the SP instructions (as per Anne) for a couple of certs. so I eagerly await the feedback > > Thank you to every kind soul who responded. > > Greg. >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: IHall6669 Surnames: McKenzie, Fairweather, Stewart, Lindsay, McIntosh Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/6010.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: One of the children of Alexander McKenzie (flesher) and Catherine Hay Fairweather was Jessie Farquhar McKenzie who died 26 January 1870 (High Street, Kirriemuir) at the age of 3. Alexander McKenzie, High Street, was the informant on the death registration of his father in law Robert Fairweather, who died 21 April 1875 at Westmuir, age 77, married to Janet Stewart. Robert Fairweather was a crofter, and his parents were Robert Fairweather, also a crofter, and Betty McIntosh. Another child of Robert Fairweather and Betsy (Betty) McIntosh was Charles Fairweather who died 21 Feb. 1873 at Balmuckety Fens, Kirriemuir, age 68, married to Elizabeth Lindsay. His informant was a son, John Fairweather, 33 Park Wynd, Dundee. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kjaberrations Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/6007.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ellen, I think we might have some common ancestory through the family and would like to talk more in comparing notes of the Baird family and perhaps more. My name is Kathryn Alexander and I live in British Columbia Canada. My great grandmother was Mary Baird and her father David Baird was from Montrose. She married Alexander Alexander and they immigrated to New Zealand. My grandfather was their youngest son and eventually settled in Canada. Most of the Alexanders are in New Zealand and although David moved there with his wife Mary Petrie I believe that they ended up moving either back to Scotland or onto Austrailia...I've lost the trail. My mother was born a Stewart and her great grandfather was Thomas Stewart who was born in the Dundee Tayside area and he married a Jane/Jean Mollison from the Glams area before immigrating to Canada in the 1843 time frame. The name Gowie is also a name I have found in the family...look forward to sharing more info one day soon. Best regards, Kathryn Alexander Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi all, Many thanks for everyone’s assistance – it is much appreciated. Special thanks to Anne – maybe if I had read all SPs instructions fully and correctly I wouldn’t have to be asking such dumb questions! Sorry. I have now used the SP instructions (as per Anne) for a couple of certs. so I eagerly await the feedback Thank you to every kind soul who responded. Greg.

I have known people to put a link to them online and listers have a go at translating them....not sure how to go about doing this though sorry. I am translating some OPRs for the 1600s and know how difficult they can be but if you were able to a copy to me direct I'd have a go. I still think there are better experts out there than me though. Cheers Ruth Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Illegible OPRs > > Hi Greg, > It depends on what the problem is. Are the scans either too faint, > suffering > from 'bleed through' or subject to another problem of that nature - > either > in the scanning or in the original documents? If so, you need to > contact SP > and Anne has explained how. > Or, is it that you don't know how to read the writing, which is probably > Secretary Hand? If so, there are several online tutorials accessible > from SP > but also several of us on here may be able to help if you send us the > scans. > Best regards, > Jenny > > On 17/02/2013 03:06, [1]ghwighton@bigpond.com wrote: > > Hi all, > > Could SKS please advise me of the best, easiest way to have three > indecipherabl > e 1600s OPRs that I have downloaded from SP translated ! > I can make out bits and pieces here and there, but not enough to make full > sens > e out of them ! > > References > > 1. mailto:ghwighton@bigpond.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I am willing to have a go at reading them if you want to email me off list. Can't make any promises but am happy to give it a try. Colin On 17 February 2013 21:26, <rchancel@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > I have known people to put a link to them online and listers have a go at > translating them....not sure how to go about doing this though sorry. > > I am translating some OPRs for the 1600s and know how difficult they can be > but if you were able to a copy to me direct I'd have a go. I still think > there are better experts out there than me though. > > Cheers Ruth > > > > Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Illegible OPRs > > > > > > Hi Greg, > > It depends on what the problem is. Are the scans either too faint, > > suffering > > from 'bleed through' or subject to another problem of that nature - > > either > > in the scanning or in the original documents? If so, you need to > > contact SP > > and Anne has explained how. > > Or, is it that you don't know how to read the writing, which is > probably > > Secretary Hand? If so, there are several online tutorials accessible > > from SP > > but also several of us on here may be able to help if you send us the > > scans. > > Best regards, > > Jenny > > > > On 17/02/2013 03:06, [1]ghwighton@bigpond.com wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Could SKS please advise me of the best, easiest way to have three > > indecipherabl > > e 1600s OPRs that I have downloaded from SP translated ! > > I can make out bits and pieces here and there, but not enough to make > full > > sens > > e out of them ! > > > > References > > > > 1. mailto:ghwighton@bigpond.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jlwiesner Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/337.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Gary, my name is Jenny and I am doing research on Chapman & siblings. My sister and are going back to the east coast this summer. Don't think he came from Scotland but was born in VA. near Richmond. I have marriage license for him and also one of his sisters. We are going back to Lousia and Hartfort, Va, and look for grave sites and churches. Chapman is my ggg-grandfather. There are so many stories that are not true. Will let all know the results of trip. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.