The Duke of Buccleuch, Chief of Clan Scott, has called the first-ever international Clan Scott Gathering in the Borders of Scotland in September 2009. This multi-day event held in Selkirk and at Abbotsford (Sir Walter Scott's home) and Bowhill House (Duke of Buccleuch's home) is certain to be memorable. Dinners, performances, tours, and more will be offered including help with genealogical research. For more information, please see: Clan Scott Society's Borders Gathering Page http://www.clanscottsociety.org/linked/BordersGathering2009.html Bowhill's programme of Events, Local Accommodations, and Other helpful information. http://www.bowhill.org/public/news/homecoming20091 Also, a public discussion and information group on Yahoo has recently been established by the Clan Scott Society. It is located at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ClanScottGathering Clan Scott Society members are eligible for special privileges at this Gathering. Sincerely Ian Scott Researching Scott and Dalgity in Angus, Scotland http://www3.pei.sympatico.ca/scotts/1Scott.html -- Ian & Daphne Scott 51 Ambrose St. Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada, C1A 3P5 (902) 892-5796 scotts@pei.sympatico.ca

Hi all. I was interested in the topic of the Dorward coats in Canada, like Bruce I have a brick wall with my William dorward who married Elizabeth Ducan in Montrose in the early 1800's Pamela Paterson Midcoast NSW oZ.

> Can anyone tell me if there any Scottish records on the > British Vital > Records CDs that are not available on Scotlands People. There is some pre-1855 information on the BIVRI CDs relating to baptisms in the Free Kirk which may not be in the SP database (yet). The SP database is compiled from the parish registers kept by the Church of Scotland. In theory all baptisms and marriages, regardles of denomination, should have been recorded in these registers, but this did not always happen. >From 1855 SP has births from the statutory civil registers, and BIVRI has some baptisms, so there is slightly different information about the same individuals. I have never been able to understand why the information in BIVRI wasn't simply added to the IGI at the outset. I have just checked a couple of events which I originally found in the BIVRI CDs, and they are still not listed in the IGI, though there have been many additions to that over the years, including in some cases half a dozen duplicate entries for the same people. HTH Anne

Could it be a popular coat Made in Scotland, J & J.C. Dorward Ltd. Galashiels? It is true, you can find anything on Ebay. I buy some of my Scottish agate jewelry from them, now that I don't travel to Scotland. My hubby used to tease me that shopping and travel were my REAL hobby, and genealogy is just a cover. His name is also Bruce. Hope someone knows, and can help you more. Mary in Oregon In a message dated 2/27/2009 3:09:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, personal@dorrit41jbd.bbmax.co.uk writes: Hi List, source of just about all knowledge if you ask the right people! Does anyone have an interest in tailoring and fashion? A relative in Canada has sent me some items trawled from his local newspapers including useful BMD notices from which I have extracted some fine detail. Other Dorward references have turned out to be interesting though false trails as far as remotely close family is concerned. But one is an advertisment in a Toronto paper which lists, under a representation of a man in an overcoat typical of the 1930s and 40s, several makes including "Scotch Coats" and specifically (under Scotch Coats) "Dorward Coats". What were "Dorward Coats"? I conclude that this was a brand name but who was "Dorward"? Google brings up a dozen or so specific entries that all seem to refer to the same second-hand garment on offer through e-bay but nothing to indicate who made these or where they were made. Yet in Canada and USA (according to another advertisment that a Yahoo search produced) Dorward Coats were a recognised, saleable brand in the 1930s Can anyone shed a bit of light on who the Dorward of Dorward Coats might be? He might be my relative! Cheers, Bruce D ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)

Hi List, source of just about all knowledge if you ask the right people! Does anyone have an interest in tailoring and fashion? A relative in Canada has sent me some items trawled from his local newspapers including useful BMD notices from which I have extracted some fine detail. Other Dorward references have turned out to be interesting though false trails as far as remotely close family is concerned. But one is an advertisment in a Toronto paper which lists, under a representation of a man in an overcoat typical of the 1930s and 40s, several makes including "Scotch Coats" and specifically (under Scotch Coats) "Dorward Coats". What were "Dorward Coats"? I conclude that this was a brand name but who was "Dorward"? Google brings up a dozen or so specific entries that all seem to refer to the same second-hand garment on offer through e-bay but nothing to indicate who made these or where they were made. Yet in Canada and USA (according to another advertisment that a Yahoo search produced) Dorward Coats were a recognised, saleable brand in the 1930s Can anyone shed a bit of light on who the Dorward of Dorward Coats might be? He might be my relative! Cheers, Bruce D

Some may find this interesting from Anglo-Celtic Connections. http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/Home/ THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 26, 2009 New Zealand BDMs You can search for birth, death and marriage historical records here for that family cousin whose ship out of Britain headed south to New Zealand. The site has a search facility for NZ: Births that occurred at least 100 years ago Stillbirths that occurred at least 50 years ago Marriages and eventually Civil Unions that occurred 80 years ago Deaths that occurred at least 50 years ago or the deceased's date of birth was at least 80 years ago. In New Zealand registration of births and deaths was introduced in 1848, and in 1854 for marriages. The free searches return index entries with names, year, and date of birth for deaths, but no location information. You can order and pay online to have a research hardcopy mailed at about the cost of a UK certificate. Other formats are also available. The site seemed to work pretty well, as long as you type in dates in the right format. Arlene

> From: alibell@tiscali.co.uk > To: angus-L@rootsweb.com; perthshire-L@rootsweb.com; sct-banffshire-L@rootsweb.com; SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN@rootsweb.com; sct-inverness-L@rootsweb.com; sct-kincardine-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:24:26 +0000 > Subject: [ANGUS] Baldie Surname > > I've been asked by a friend how to access any rootsweb mailing lists concerning the Surname BALDIE. > > Can anyone please advise. > If you go to http://www.rootsweb.com and search Rootsweb for Baldie you get 2 hits from the RSL - myself and Kim Kuney. Our lines are both in Fife. There's a forum on Genforum here http://genforum.genealogy.com/baldy/. Note that your friend should search Baldie, Baldy, Bauld, Baude, Baldwe, Bawdy, Bawdie at least. There's a lot more variations (I've had 3 of them turn up in a single entry once!).. Lesley Robertson _________________________________________________________________ What can you do with the new Windows Live? Find out http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx

For those who discovered the 1916 Census went missing from the LDS pilot site it has now reappeared on Ancestry The 1916 Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta is available through a 14-day Free Trial at Ancestry.ca. Celtic Connections has the new information http://anglo-celtic-connections.blogspot.com/2009/02/1916-canadian- census.html Arlene

Reposing Interests Iam Researching my Family Tree, and Iam hoping someone who is a Direct decendant or Knows of this Family Can Help me in my Research.... William Mill (Cabnet Maker ) Born at Montrose in 1748 He Married Christian GRIERSON at Montrose on 20th June 1773. William and Christian had a Son and a Daughter : James b 27th July 1774 at Montrose Ann b June 1776 at Montrose The above Ann Mill was the Wife of William Middleton who was a Master Plumber and Native of England. They both Married in Montrose on 31st May 1801. William Died Between 1841 and 1851 at Market Street in Montrose.. Ann Died at Market Street on 29th of September 1856 aged 80. William and Ann had the Following Children : Abram b 1803 M 1827 to Helen Spink had 1 Daughter Ann b 1829 Arbroath Thomas b 1804, Fofar ( Married 1830 to Elizabeth Middleton) (Thomas Died 1883 at Market Street, Montrose) (Elizabeth Died in High Street, Montrose in 1869) They had no Children William b 1806 Fofar (Died unmarried at 2 George Street, Montrose in 1882 aged 75. His Occupation was an ARCHITECT. He is Buried at Rosehill Cemetry, Montrose. Mary b 1808 Ann b 1810 Christina b 1811 Betty/Betsy more Middleton b 29 January 1813 at Fofar. She Married James Keill (Merchant) in Montrose on 8th August 1830, James was Native of Longforgan. He Died in London on 17th February 1854 aged 53. Betty Never Remarried she moved back to Montrose after James Death and she Died at 35 Market Street on 4th March 1902 aged 89 She is Buried at Rosehill Cemetry as she is Buried alongside her Brother William.. James and Betsy/Betty had 2 Children : Ann b 1833 Montrose who Married Charles Sneller in North Leith in 1852 and Settled and Died in Norfolk, England in 1871 She had 9 Children.. George Middleton Keill b 1835 Montrose He Married Eleanor Jane Wood at London in 1863 He Never returned to Montrose he Settled at London he Only Returned to Montrose in 1902 at the Time of the Death of his Mother.. His Occupation was a Hotelier Barbara b 25th November 1814, Montrose she also never Married she Died at 11 High Street, Montrose aged 57 on 8th March 1871.. Any Help would be Gratefully Accepted   Lee

> I've been asked by a friend how to access any rootsweb mailing > lists > concerning the Surname BALDIE. > > Can anyone please advise. > > Alistair Bell. There doesn't seem to be either a Mailing List or a Message Board for Baldie. There is a Message Board for Baldy at http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baldy/mb.ashx HTH Anne

I've been asked by a friend how to access any rootsweb mailing lists concerning the Surname BALDIE. Can anyone please advise. Alistair Bell.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: allanpennie Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1324.2.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, My great grandmother was married to a John Stobie (her first marriage) in mid 1800s in Dundee. I have most of the records but I don't have them in front of me. I believe they had 3 children and I think they may have been Irish immigrants to Scotland. Stobie is not a common name in Angus so there may be some connection. Allan Pennie in Winnipeg, Canada alpennie@mts.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: evelynolga66 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1324.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Maybe they could be related, but Jean Lyall\Lyell must have been a very common name. Thanks for answering. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bless993 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/60.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi My father was born in Dundee, William Lesslie in 1905. I believe his parents were from around the area and I know that his grandfather came or worked in Blairgowrie. My earliest Lesslie is James in or about 1780. As the families died out they moved to Edinburgh in 1920s and some of them went to Australia, they are still there Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michellejoyce1979 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1324.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: this is definatly a match. robert and agnes' son robert married mary-emma hooton, they had 6 children one which was my great grandmother annie hooton stobie. please email me at mjj1979f@aol.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: klgould180 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1324.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi, my fathers grandparents were robert lyall stobie and agnes turpie, married 1859 in st andrews. my grandfather andrew graham was their 3rd youngest child. andrew followed his older brother william out to australia in the 1920s. i have some family info from birth, marriage and deaths certificates. also photo of agnes,robina,william, andrew and one other sister i dont have a name for. margaret melville and william stobie never married. william had 6 children with wife jean (jane) rintoul. love to hear from you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Arlene I don't have any connection with the family of BALFOURS - but I do have connections with the MANN's of FORFAR. Lorna Edinburgh -----Original Message----- From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Arlene Halme Sent: 21 February 2009 03:48 To: angus@rootsweb.com Subject: [ANGUS] Mann in Forfarshire - Aberlemno In response to the post from the gateway. Do you have any connection with the Balfours of Rescobie and Aberlemno Arlene ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1965 - Release Date: 02/21/09 15:36:00

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-100.01-e.php?PHPSESSID=lqp8hggp4bhip0id5mp2dkgbg2 Of interest to some ? The 1891 Census of Canada is now available - free on line - at the site above. Regards Barbara Neish Bermuda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johnwaddell1 Surnames: file with the info That I have. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5530.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Not sure if we have been in contact before but I have info on the family. Send an email to johnwaddell@blueyonder.co.uk and I will send you a Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

2009/2/21 Arlene Halme <ahalme@shaw.ca> wrote: In response to the post from the gateway. > > Do you have any connection with the Balfours of Rescobie and Aberlemno > ________________________________________________________ Hi Arlene, I'm replying off List because this has probably been over-done on the List. To reply to a message from the Gateway, you *must* use the Message Board to be sure that the person you are trying to write to sees it. They may be a member of this List too but there is no guarantee. AS people use nicknames or aliases on the Boards, you can't second guess this one. I suggest you bite the bullet and send your message, above, to the Board where you'll be sure Rootsweb will alert them to your response. Here is my view of the Boards and the plus points, such as they are: If you register for the Rootsweb Message Boards, a cookie is set up in your browser so that future access to the MB will know who you are, by your chosen alias. You only have to click on the link in the body of the Gatewayed message to get to the relevant thread when you can then reply. Your alias is picked up from the cookie [or at least it was when I used it]. Incidentally using the MB also gives you the history of the item if it is part of a longer thread. This can be a plus point if you want to see who else has joined in and does make doing it this way worth while in many cases. Personally I would prefer it if everyone used the Lists or if the List was reflected back to the MBs but, as Gavin said, the current method was voted for so we are stuck with it. Aliases do become familiar. Gavin's is "gbell" and Anne Burgess's is "forfarian" these being two of the "gurus" who I know through the Aberdeenshire List. -- Best wishes Ray ********************************************************** >From Ray Hennessy Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net Preferred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net **********************************************************