Page 38 Names (1797) Surnames David Son Alexr Graham flax dresser Deyhouse and his Spouse Agnes Whitton was Born Octr 29 Graham Willm Son to John Kyd weaver Budden and his Spouse Margaret Dick was Baptized Octr 12 Kyd Isabel Daughter to James Kyd shepherd Budden and his Spouse Elizabeth Patersone Baptized Novr 9 Kyd David Son to Alexr Strachan weaver in Budden and his Spouse Elizabeth Patersone Baptized Novr 9 Kyd George Son to Alexr Symers schoolmaster Barrie and his Spouse Clementina Carnegy was Born Decr 28 Symers Males 12 Females 9 Born in all this year 21 1798 Ann Daughter to David Scott weaver Cowbyres and his Spouse Margaret Chrystie was born Janry 18 Scott Jean Daughter to David Robertson weaver Taymouth and his Spouse Barb Paton Baptized Janry 25 Robertson John Son to David Fairweather smith Barrie and his Spouse Isebel Cairy was Born Febry 4 Fairweather Margt Daughter to William Scott weaver Barie and his Spouse Ann Butchert was Born March 22 Scott Agnes Daughter to James Crofts weaver Woodhill and his Spouse Mady Cramond was baptized March 28 Crofts David Son to Robert Scott shoemaker Barrie hill and his Spouse Elizabeth Herald was born April 12 Scott George Son to Thomas Young weaver Cowbyres and his Spouse Mady Scott was Born April 14 Young Page 39 Names (1798) Surnames Alexr Son to Alexr Mcliesh weaver in Deyhouse and his Spouse Jean Craford was born May 3 Mcliesh Margaret Daughter to the Revd David Sim of Barrie and his spouse Agnes Maule born June 1 Sim Rabb Son to James Rea weaver Budden and his Spouse Barbara Templeman was Baptized Augt 19 Rea Isabel Daughter to John Ogilvie and Mary Gray his spouse born Do 19 Ogilvie George Son to David Ferrier weaver Cowbyres and his Spouse May Paterson was Baptized Do 26 Ferrier Mary Daughter to James Whitton Balwindry and his spouse Margaret Black was baptized Do 26 Whitton George Son to David Small day labourer Elsinur and his Spouse Mattey Espline was baptised Septr 18 Small Margt Daughter to David Brown shoe maker Barry and his Spous Jean Smith was Born Octr 8 Brown David Son to Robert Nicol weaver Barrie and his Spouse Isabel Anderson was baptised Octr 21 Nicol Thomas Son to Alexander Young cotside and his Spouse Elizabeth White was Baptized Novr 1 Young James Son to Andrew Gibson taylor Deyhous and his spouse Margret Whitton was Born Novr 2 Gibson George Donald McLoud day labourer mostoun and his Spouse Margaret Patton was Born Novr 16 McLoud Males 11 Females 6 In all born this year 17 1799 James Son to James Cruickshanks ground Wood hill and his Spouse Elspeth Thomson Born Janry 2 Cruickshanks Jannet Daughter to John Coupar ground of wood hill and his Spouse Ann Simpson was Born Do 3 Coupar Page 40 Names (1799) Surnames Wm Son to James Stephen merchant Barrie and his Spouse Mary Scott was Born Jany 14 Stephen Margaret Daughter to Alexander Lowson weaver budden and his Spouse Mary Kid was born Febr 12 Lowson May Daughter to William Padie taylor crookhill and his spouse Elizabeth Keillar was Born Do 18 Padie James Son to Alexander Graham flax Dresser Dyhoue and his spouse Agnes Whitton born Mar 4 Graham Alexr Son to James Scott wright Deyhouse and his Spouse Elizabeth Brown was born March 9 Scott James Son to Alex Dalrymple seaman & Jannet Lowson his Spouse was born March 26 Dalrymple Alexr Son to David Smith taymouth and his Spouse Jannet Donaldson was Born April 7 Smith David Son to David Whitton weaver mostoun and his Spouse Jannet Paton was Born April 27 Whitton Mary Daughter to Andrew Gibson weaver Taymouth and his Spouse Margaret Paton born April 28 Gibson James Son to Peter Louson weaver Mostoun and his Spouse Margaret Stroke was born May 23 Louson Thos Lyel Son to Alexander Symers schoolmaster Barrie and his Spouse Clementina Carnegy May 28 Symers Wm Son to George Gerand miller up mill and his Spouse Jannet Fife was Born May 27 Gerand Bettie Daughter to Robt Nicol weaver Taymouth Feus & his Spouse Isabel Anderson Born June 1 Nicol Jas Son to Alexander Strachen budden and his Spouse Grizel Scott was born June 2 Strachen Jean Daughter to William Morum wright Barrie and his Spouse Margt Crighton born June 10 Morum Page 41 Names (1799) Surnames Alexr & Isobel Twin Children to Andrew Davidson barnman Taymouth and his Spouse Christian Petrie was born July 4 Davidson Margt Daughter to David Scott weaver Cowbyres and his Spouse Margaret Christie was born July 11 Scott Wm Son to Thomas Louson wright Taymouth and his Spouse Barbara Stewart was born July 19 Louson Eliza Daughter to David Turnbull deyhouse and his Spouse Christian Johnston was born August 23 Turnbull Robt Son to Alexander Taylor weaver Barrie and his Spouse Isabel Ferriar was born Septr 6 Taylor Eliza Daughter to Robert Scott weaver Budden mos holes and his Spouse Barbara Ferrier was born Septr 25 Scott Isabel Daughter to George Archer weaver Crookhill and his Spouse Isabel Fife was born Septr 29 Archer Jean Born Daughter to Thomas Rea and his Spouse Margret Fairweather was born Octr 19 Rea Robert Son to Andrew Louson point and his Spouse Ann Ramsay was born Novr 18 Louson Thomas Son to Frances Whitton wright Barrie and his Spouse Agnes Christie was born Decr 7 Whitton James Son to David Lyell barnman Balskellie and his Spouse Isabel Blair was born Decr 17 Lyell Males 16 Females 11 In all Born this year

Yesterday morning I found on the NAS web site an interesting reference, but didn't have time to copy it. Later in the day I looked for it again, but despite trying all possible combinations of the names it contains, I could not find it. This wouldn't have been the first time I have failed to find in the online index something I have previously seen on the in-house index, but it is the first time I have failed to find online something I had previously seen online. In great frustration I e-mailed the NAS contact address, and this morning received an apologetic reply to the effect that the online catalogue system is not working as it should. The reply contained a copy of the details I was looking for. I have no doubt that there must be endless other things which ought to be in the online index but aren't yet. So keep on looking, they may suddenly pop up one day. Anne

Ray Hennessy wrote: >... > >There are two links to the " Search" facility. Both go to >a page with only a single box for searching and no >instructions such as the ones you indicate. > > Because of the way the NAS website works (it appears not to have static HTML pages but to generate pages "on the fly") it is not possible to give a simple URL, but the route I followed was: (1) from "www.nas.gov.uk" I clicked on the link (in the list in the lower rh side of the screen) marked "Catalogues and Indexes" (2) this brought up the page "www.nas.gov.uk/catalogues/default.asp". Halfway down that page is a link marked "Search NAS catalogue" (3) this brings up the page "www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/" (and this URL is unchanged in all the following). Click on the link marked "Search" (4) without changing the apparent URL, this brings up a page with a box marked "Search for:" and the wording I quoted concerning serach types is immediately beneath. There is also, in the "headine" band of this page, an option for "Advanced Search". >Nivard said: > > >>>(in desperation I even read the instructions) >>> >>> > >You replied > > >>If you had read the above (and it is really fairly >> >> >hard to miss) then you would have discovered ... > >Well I think it is actually very hard TO FIND. You don't >say how one is to find those instructions. Where on >earth are they? I looked for a decent search facility >on the NAS site last year and gave up in despair > > I would agree that the route to this page is a little baroque, but it was the page I found from a cold start, calling up "nas.gov.uk" and looking for a search facility. Sorry for delay in replying - I have been away improving my mind at various London galleries and museums. Gavin

Thanks, Gordon - very helpful indeed. That's a very tortuous system they've got there but I've now bookmarked the Search page so won't have [to remember how] to "drill down" each time!! :-) Regards Ray 2009/3/25 Gordon Johnson <gordon@kinhelp.co.uk> > > ** There is a big difference between what is searchable on the NAS website, > and what catalogues can be searched FROM the website. > My approach to the NAS website is: > On the Welcome page, look at the right hand side, headed "I'm looking > for", and the first option is: Catalogues and Indexes. > Click on that, and you get a page with al the catalogues and indexes that > are available. Under "Catalogues available online" you'll find: "search the NAS catalogue". > > Click on "NAS Catalogue", and that takes you to the start page FOR THAT > CATALOGUE. > Click on SEARCH (top middle of page), and you get the search page with all > the options stated quite clearly. > The options to search 1. the catalogue 2.Persons 3. Places are not as > obvious as appears. It is wise to combine Catalogue with Persons to find all > the instances of people's names, so just click off Places, unless you are > searching for a farm name, etc. > If you have no particular dates in mind, use start and stop years beyond > what you know, in case the name appeared earlier. The "include undated > records" is more useful for earlier periods than modern ones. > I usually leave the Reference section option blank. > Hope this is helpful. > Gordon. >

** There is a big difference between what is searchable on the NAS website, and what catalogues can be searched FROM the website. My approach to the NAS website is: On the Welcome page, look at the right hand side, headed "I'm looking for", and the first option is: Catalogues and Indexes. Click on that, and you get a page with al the catalogues and indexes that are available. Under "Catalogues available online" you'll find: "search the NAS catalogue". Click on "NAS Catalogue", and that takes you to the start page FOR THAT CATALOGUE. click on SEARCH (top middle of page), and you get the search page with all the options stated quite clearly. The options to search 1. the catalogue 2.Persons 3. Places are not as obvious as appears. It is wise to combine Catalogue with Persons to find all the instances of people's names, so just click off Places, unless ou are searching for a farm name, etc. If you have no particular dates in mind, use start and stop years beyond what you know, in case the name appeared earlier. The "include undated records" is more useful for earlier periods than modern ones. I usually leave the Reference section option blank. Hope this is helpful. Gordon.

Marilyn Sorry - not us. But if you know anything of an Alexander STEWART who was described as a soldier at the baptism of his 4th child Ann STEWART at Kilmarnock in 1799 .... Kind regards -----Original Message----- From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Threlkeld Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2009 8:21 AM To: angus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANGUS] North British Militia Are you the Stewarts who wanted to find 38 Market St in Brechin & to whom I sent the info? Computer troubles lost the letter. mjmt@camalott.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen & Ed Stewart" <estewart@alphalink.com.au> To: <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [ANGUS] North British Militia > Coming in late to this thread so this may have already been mentioned, but > ... > > There is a digitised copy of "Territorial Soldiering in the North-East of > Scotland during 1759-1814" by John Malcolm Bulloch available at > http://www.archive.org/details/territorialsoldi00bulluoft > which you may care to have a look at. > > Kind regards > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Nivard Ovington > Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:05 AM > To: angus@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ANGUS] North British Militia > > Hi Gordon > > Thanks for that (I think <vbg>) > > No, really much appreciated, as your mail came in I was searching the Army > & > > Militia lists but nothing early enough > > I did find a reference to an 1813 Army and Militia list thus :- > "The Army list includes lists of officers, a list of the North Britain > militia and a list of the Royal Edinburgh Volunteers" although these > listings usually only contained officers, the description is ambiguous, > most > > Militia were disbanded in 1802 but were raised again soon after > > Apart from that I have found little on them, quite a few individuals who > served with them on the National Archives but annoyingly no David COOK > > I will look into it further and come back to you if I find any more on the > 5th > > Thanks again > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > PS it would be ironic if it were the Shetlands and my family were there > during WW2 three of my siblings were born there > > >> Nivard: had a relative in the 5th North British Militia. According to an >> army website, the 5th was: >> 5th Ross, Sutherland, Shetland and Cromarty Militia >> and so you have a wide choice of where he may have been recruited!! >> Gordon Johnson. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is the page Ray is referring to. http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/ I have pasted in this page to this email though I am not too sure whether it will come through in a form that is understandable. Search catalogue records This screen allows you to search using keyword, reference and date fields. Persons (name authority) records can be searched using search terms and dates. Place records can be searched using search terms only. If you wish to carry out a more complex search, please use the Advanced search or Build your own search options Search Reset search fields Catalogue Persons Places Search for: Phrase All words (AND) Any word (OR) Use "phrase" to look for exact matches to a group of words, for example John Smith would find only records containing this name; Use "all words" to look for records which contain all of the specified words in any order, for example a search for John Smith would also find a record containing "the smith in the village was called John Brown"; use "any word" to find all records which contain any of the specified words - in this case all records containing "John" and all records containing "Smith". Reference: Matches Starts Contains Use "Matches" to find this exact reference number; use "Starts" to find all references which start with this reference, for example CH2 would find "CH2", "CH2/1" and "CH20"; Use "Contains" to search where this is only part of the reference eg "C2" would find "C2", "C2/1" and "BBC2". Dates from: Dates to: Include undated records Enter dates in one or both fields to specify a range of dates to search for. Dates should be entered in the format "12 Oct 1900", "Oct 1900" or "1900". If partial dates are given, the system will search for the widest range of matching dates, for example "1900" in both fields will return 1 Jan 1900 to 31 Dec 1900.

2009/3/24 Gavin Bell <g.bell@which.net> wrote in reply to NIvard Ovington: > I don't know about wildcarding, but there is an obvious option on the "simple search" page to specify your search terms as "phrase", "all words (AND)" or "any word (OR)":  This is clearly described just beneath the box where you enter your search terms: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use "phrase" to look for exact matches to a group of words, for example John Smith would find only records containing this name; Use "all words" to look for records which contain all of the specified words in any order, for example a search for John Smith would also find a record containing "the smith in the village was called John Brown"; use "any word" to find all records which contain any of the specified words - in this case all records containing "John" and all records containing "Smith". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gavin I went to NAS & clicked on "Help with this site". There are two links to the " Search" facility. Both go to a page with only a single box for searching and no instructions such as the ones you indicate. Nivard said: > > (in desperation I even read the instructions) You replied > If you had read the above (and it is really fairly hard to miss) then you would have discovered ... Well I think it is actually very hard TO FIND. You don't say how one is to find those instructions. Where on earth are they? I looked for a decent search facility on the NAS site last year and gave up in despair Confused Ray

Hi Ed Thanks for the pointer As an ardent admirer of Archive.org I don't know how I missed that so thanks for telling me It and a further search of the NAS (now I can find the search) seems to confirm that the 5th Regiment of North British (or Britain) Militia was formed as follows "The counties of Fife, Stirling, Clackmannan and Kinross were united for the purpose of forming a militia, known as the 5th or Fifeshire Regiment of North British Militia. In 1803 Dumbarton was substituted for Fife to form the Stirling, Dumbarton, Clackmannan, and Kinross Militia (later the 90th Regiment of British Militia) with initially 800 men." >From the book you mentioned :- 5th or Fifeshire And 5th or Fife, i.e., Fife, Stirling - Kinross, Clackmannan So at least thats narrowed it down to only several thousand men now <vbg> The NAS hit referencing the above I am unsure if its a listing of the men or just a general publication, I will follow that up Thanks for your input, appreciated After all this I hope he is my man ! Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Coming in late to this thread so this may have already been mentioned, but > ... > > There is a digitised copy of "Territorial Soldiering in the North-East of > Scotland during 1759-1814" by John Malcolm Bulloch available at > http://www.archive.org/details/territorialsoldi00bulluoft > which you may care to have a look at. > > Kind regards > Ed

Ha ! Answered my own question :-) I tried a search on google for simple search National Archives of Scotland Result, first hit <g> Tracing it back I see where it is accessed now from the main site, I even tried the link below it but missed that one Oh well I will try a bit further and see what I find Many thanks Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > Hi Gavin > > Always grateful for input > > I was not after wild cards although that would be very useful, I was > asking about limiters, as in a search of google, and many other sites of > say "North Britain Militia" or *North Britain Militia* would find hits > with those words in that particular order as would North.Britain.Militia > in google > > The NAS does not seem to operate in that way (or does it?) > > To start with this is the url I am using > http://www.nas.gov.uk/

Hi Gavin Always grateful for input I was not after wild cards although that would be very useful, I was asking about limiters, as in a search of google, and many other sites of say "North Britain Militia" or *North Britain Militia* would find hits with those words in that particular order as would North.Britain.Militia in google The NAS does not seem to operate in that way (or does it?) To start with this is the url I am using http://www.nas.gov.uk/ Nowhere can I see a "simple search" (probably staring me in the face :-) I see Site search top right but there is but one search box and that has the already described problems of differentiating between words Its obvious to me I am looking in the wrong place so if you could point me in the direction of the obvious I would be most grateful I have used the National Archives in England without a problem for many years, using their download system with great ease but the NAS evades me Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > I don't know about wildcarding, but there is an obvious option on the > "simple search" page to specify your search terms as "phrase", "all > words (AND)" or "any word (OR)": This is clearly described just beneath > the box where you enter your search terms: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use "phrase" to look for exact matches to a group of words, for > example John Smith would find only records containing this name; Use > "all words" to look for records which contain all of the specified words > in any order, for example a search for John Smith would also find a > record containing "the smith in the village was called John Brown"; use > "any word" to find all records which contain any of the specified words > - in this case all records containing "John" and all records containing > "Smith".

Nivard Ovington wrote: >Hi Lesley > >I have searched the NAS but frankly find it very unhelpful as there do not >appear to be limiters for use in the search of the site (if there is I >cannot find them and the usual "" or ** do not work) > >So each time you add a search word it searches on that to the exclusion of >any other word you enter, so instead of looking for just North Britain >Militia it returns hits for anything with any of those words in, not all the >search words as desired > >Perhaps someone knows how to "drive" it better than I do > > I don't know about wildcarding, but there is an obvious option on the "simple search" page to specify your search terms as "phrase", "all words (AND)" or "any word (OR)": This is clearly described just beneath the box where you enter your search terms: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use "phrase" to look for exact matches to a group of words, for example John Smith would find only records containing this name; Use "all words" to look for records which contain all of the specified words in any order, for example a search for John Smith would also find a record containing "the smith in the village was called John Brown"; use "any word" to find all records which contain any of the specified words - in this case all records containing "John" and all records containing "Smith". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >(in desperation I even read the instructions <vbg>) > > If you had read the above (and it is really fairly hard to miss) then you would have discovered that, if you enter "North British Militia" and click on "phrase", you get 15 hits, the precis of each including the phrase "North British Militia". >On the hits it does pull up it either suggests a visit or buying one of >their books, not overly helpful as I am stuck in Cornwall > > Other options are to request an estimate for having a copy made, and to employ an independent researcher. I am about as far from the (English) National Archives at Kew as you are from NAS in Edinburgh, and I have found that it is simple enough to brief a researcher with what you know, and what you hope to learn, and to agree a price in advance. >I see there is a possibility of muster lists, ballot lists and perhaps >dependents seeking support but all are at the NAS which is out of my reach >at present (both geographically and financially) > > The NAS catalogue is likely to bring up information on documents held by the NAS. But I suspect that there may well be documents referring to Militia matters in local archives. I have transcribed one list of men liable to being called up to the Militia in the town of Aberdeen, and I know that the same Archive holds such documents for Aberdeenshire, and I believe they have been indexed. So it might be worth your while contacting archives in your target area. And there are Lists devoted to military matters - you may get leads there. Gavin Bell

Hi Lesley I have searched the NAS but frankly find it very unhelpful as there do not appear to be limiters for use in the search of the site (if there is I cannot find them and the usual "" or ** do not work) So each time you add a search word it searches on that to the exclusion of any other word you enter, so instead of looking for just North Britain Militia it returns hits for anything with any of those words in, not all the search words as desired Perhaps someone knows how to "drive" it better than I do (in desperation I even read the instructions <vbg>) On the hits it does pull up it either suggests a visit or buying one of their books, not overly helpful as I am stuck in Cornwall I see there is a possibility of muster lists, ballot lists and perhaps dependents seeking support but all are at the NAS which is out of my reach at present (both geographically and financially) Thank you for mentioning it though much appreciated If you know of any search limiters I would be very grateful for the knowledge of them Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > Where have you looked? In NAS, I found a load of the information forms the > Berwickshire > > Militia had to fill in to get support for dependants while they were > serving. Since it named > > spouses which the local Minister hadn't been doing, it was very useful. > > I was only looking for Berwickshire, so you'll have to check their > catalogue to see what > > they have. It was also not scanned - I went to NAS and was given the > originals and left > > to go through them > > > > Lesley Robertson

Are you the Stewarts who wanted to find 38 Market St in Brechin & to whom I sent the info? Computer troubles lost the letter. mjmt@camalott.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen & Ed Stewart" <estewart@alphalink.com.au> To: <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [ANGUS] North British Militia > Coming in late to this thread so this may have already been mentioned, but > ... > > There is a digitised copy of "Territorial Soldiering in the North-East of > Scotland during 1759-1814" by John Malcolm Bulloch available at > http://www.archive.org/details/territorialsoldi00bulluoft > which you may care to have a look at. > > Kind regards > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Nivard Ovington > Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:05 AM > To: angus@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ANGUS] North British Militia > > Hi Gordon > > Thanks for that (I think <vbg>) > > No, really much appreciated, as your mail came in I was searching the Army > & > > Militia lists but nothing early enough > > I did find a reference to an 1813 Army and Militia list thus :- > "The Army list includes lists of officers, a list of the North Britain > militia and a list of the Royal Edinburgh Volunteers" although these > listings usually only contained officers, the description is ambiguous, > most > > Militia were disbanded in 1802 but were raised again soon after > > Apart from that I have found little on them, quite a few individuals who > served with them on the National Archives but annoyingly no David COOK > > I will look into it further and come back to you if I find any more on the > 5th > > Thanks again > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > PS it would be ironic if it were the Shetlands and my family were there > during WW2 three of my siblings were born there > > >> Nivard: had a relative in the 5th North British Militia. According to an >> army website, the 5th was: >> 5th Ross, Sutherland, Shetland and Cromarty Militia >> and so you have a wide choice of where he may have been recruited!! >> Gordon Johnson. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Coming in late to this thread so this may have already been mentioned, but ... There is a digitised copy of "Territorial Soldiering in the North-East of Scotland during 1759-1814" by John Malcolm Bulloch available at http://www.archive.org/details/territorialsoldi00bulluoft which you may care to have a look at. Kind regards Ed -----Original Message----- From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:05 AM To: angus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANGUS] North British Militia Hi Gordon Thanks for that (I think <vbg>) No, really much appreciated, as your mail came in I was searching the Army & Militia lists but nothing early enough I did find a reference to an 1813 Army and Militia list thus :- "The Army list includes lists of officers, a list of the North Britain militia and a list of the Royal Edinburgh Volunteers" although these listings usually only contained officers, the description is ambiguous, most Militia were disbanded in 1802 but were raised again soon after Apart from that I have found little on them, quite a few individuals who served with them on the National Archives but annoyingly no David COOK I will look into it further and come back to you if I find any more on the 5th Thanks again Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) PS it would be ironic if it were the Shetlands and my family were there during WW2 three of my siblings were born there > Nivard: had a relative in the 5th North British Militia. According to an > army website, the 5th was: > 5th Ross, Sutherland, Shetland and Cromarty Militia > and so you have a wide choice of where he may have been recruited!! > Gordon Johnson. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> From: ovington1@sky.com > To: angus@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:04:31 +0000 > Subject: Re: [ANGUS] North British Militia > > Hi Gordon > > Thanks for that (I think <vbg>) > > No, really much appreciated, as your mail came in I was searching the Army & > Militia lists but nothing early enough > > I did find a reference to an 1813 Army and Militia list thus :- > "The Army list includes lists of officers, a list of the North Britain > militia and a list of the Royal Edinburgh Volunteers" although these > listings usually only contained officers, the description is ambiguous, most > Militia were disbanded in 1802 but were raised again soon after > > Apart from that I have found little on them, quite a few individuals who > served with them on the National Archives but annoyingly no David COOK > > I will look into it further and come back to you if I find any more on the > 5th > Where have you looked? In NAS, I found a load of the information forms the Berwickshire Militia had to fill in to get support for dependants while they were serving. Since it named spouses which the local Minister hadn't been doing, it was very useful. I was only looking for Berwickshire, so you'll have to check their catalogue to see what they have. It was also not scanned - I went to NAS and was given the originals and left to go through them Lesley Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Hi Gordon Thanks for that (I think <vbg>) No, really much appreciated, as your mail came in I was searching the Army & Militia lists but nothing early enough I did find a reference to an 1813 Army and Militia list thus :- "The Army list includes lists of officers, a list of the North Britain militia and a list of the Royal Edinburgh Volunteers" although these listings usually only contained officers, the description is ambiguous, most Militia were disbanded in 1802 but were raised again soon after Apart from that I have found little on them, quite a few individuals who served with them on the National Archives but annoyingly no David COOK I will look into it further and come back to you if I find any more on the 5th Thanks again Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) PS it would be ironic if it were the Shetlands and my family were there during WW2 three of my siblings were born there > Nivard: had a relative in the 5th North British Militia. According to an > army website, the 5th was: > 5th Ross, Sutherland, Shetland and Cromarty Militia > and so you have a wide choice of where he may have been recruited!! > Gordon Johnson.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: class54450 Surnames: Soutar, Leighton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5544.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: As a follow-up for others who may want additional information on the above couple. Thomas and Margaret were both alive in 1881 and 1891, farming at Little Kenny Farm, Kingoldrum. Thomas died in 1907 and Margaret in 1902. In my intial query was hoping that I could find additional information about their child, Robert; possibly a descendant. Thank you for everyone's input. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: class54450 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5544.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Robert's parents were married 22 Aug 1855 in Kingoldrum. Robert was b. 08 Jan 1858. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ovington1_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5544.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ray ? The Roberts I gave details for are the same one as far as I can see, all born 1858 , in 1861 aged 3, 1881 aged 23, 1891 aged 33, 1901 aged 43 all born Arbuthnott, Kincardineshire Not sure where you see the other one born 1838? In 1881 the Occupation: Asst. Genl. Medical Practitioner M. B. C. M. Aberdeen. University not a painter NJO Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.