James TOSH (1817-1878). "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" By Hamish Robertson Sorry Sue No mention of James TOSH Regards Barbara

Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Thomas Powrie - Ship-owner Dundee For "Margaret Silvester" Perhaps ? Note spelling of one entry is LOWSON though Peter LAWSON b 1828 Dunbar d 1890 Methil, Wemyss "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" by Hamish Robertson QUOTE Page 203 1873 - 6 June Ship WILD ROSE, Charles Dorward Master, Peter Lowson Pilot at Dundee, charged with incorrectly declaring draft of vessel arriving at Dundee. Lowson fined £ 1 Page 203 also (no first name) 1873 - 30 May First steamer of the season to Archangel was LINDISFARNE, Captain Lawson of Dundee Regards Barbara Neish Bermuda

Hi Barbara, Thank you so much. wonderful Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King) Melb, Vic -----Original Message----- From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Neish Sent: Friday, 17 April 2009 10:54 AM To: angus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANGUS] "Mariners of Dundee" Subject: Re: [ANGUS] "Mariners of Dundee" For Pat This may be of some interest to you as well, although CATHNESS is not mentioned by name. "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" by Hamish Robertson Page 160 QUOTE 1844 - 2 April Wreck of DAISY of Dundee, Captain Young, Dundee to Memel, wrecked at Roume Canal on 24 March. All crew safe, some with amputations due frost bite. Pat, I realise more than one ship was named DAISY - so this may not concern you. Cheers Barbara Neish Bermuda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I am interested if a James Boyd who was on the Earl Seafield , the Horn and the Commerce, all of Dundee is mentioned in the book. Also his brother-in-law, Alexander Boyter, on Dundee, Commerce and Oxalis all of Dundee. Thank you and kind regards, Lynda Collier Melbourne

Hi Liz, Thank you for your email. There are a couple of George CAITHNESS's that I have so far but all, I think, would be either too young or born around the same time, so unlikely to have children named after them. My CAITHNESS's seem to weave back and forth from Panbride and Dundee but mainly in Panbride. The Alexander listed on the information from Barbara was my 5G Uncle so a different Alexander CAITHNESS but still very useful. I do have a Janet CAITHNESS (born 1800 daughter of Alexander CAITHNESS (my 5G Uncle) and Janet WATSON) who married a Robert NICOLL in 1826 in Dundee. Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King) Melb, Vic -----Original Message----- From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Harvie Barker Sent: Friday, 17 April 2009 9:09 AM To: angus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Thomas Powrie - Ship-owner Dundee hi I have an ancestor GEORGE NICOLL ...born 1801 Dundee to Thomas Nicoll and Jean Chalmers who is named after 'GEORGE CAITHNESS, shipmaster" --any relation to your Alexander or James Robertson Caithness? and in fact, I have numerous JAMES ROBERTSON NICOLLs..?? is George Caithness written up in the "Mariners of Dundee"? book. thanks Liz of BC Canada On Apr 16, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Pat Wade wrote: > Hi, > > I would be very interested if Alexander CAITHNESS > or his son James Robertson CAITHNESS are mentioned > in this book. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Thomas Powrie - Ship-owner Dundee For Margaret Re :: John LAWSON b 1824 Dunbar d 1908 Haddington "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" By Hamish Robertson (The book is available through The Tay Valley Family History Society) Many of the LAWSON named entries seems to fall outside your dates, however, I will keep checking. In the meantime, perhaps the following one is of interest ? QUOTE Page 151 1842 - 13 March Sloop THOMAS of Perth, John Lawson Master, from Wemyss with coals, sunk 3 miles west of Dundee. Crew of Master, one man and one boy all saved. Regards Barbara Neish Bermuda

Hi Barbara, Thank you so much for this. Every snippet of information is like "gold". Very much appreciated. Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King) Melb, Vic -----Original Message----- From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Neish Sent: Friday, 17 April 2009 10:06 AM To: angus@rootsweb.com Subject: [ANGUS] "Mariners of Dundee" I would be very interested if Alexander CAITHNESS or his son James Robertson CAITHNESS are mentioned in this book. I know a number of the vessels that they sailed on - CHOICE, DAISY, SHIFT, WILLIAM. For Pat & Liz There are several mentions of CAITHNESS and the vessels. Perhaps these entries are of interest ? "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" by Hamish Robertson QUOTE Page 100 1818 - 23 January Newspaper Advertisement Sale of Barquentine, or Snow ROSINA of Dundee, built under the Inspection of Alexander Caithness, late owner, in the year 1815. Apply to John Calman, shipbuilder in Dundee Page 107 1826 - 20 June Fraternity General Meeting James Caithness, joined 20 March 1821, made a Free Master of the Fraternity Page 80 1791 - 6 October Fraternity of Seaman Committee Meeting George Caithness made Free Master of the Fraternity Page 83 1797 - 9 February The Fraternity of Masters & Seaman in Dundee George Caithness Junior made a Free Master of the Fraternity (A George Caithness is also mentioned in the year 1874 - later than your George ?) Hope this helps Barbara Neish Bermuda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I would be very interested if Alexander CAITHNESS or his son James Robertson CAITHNESS are mentioned in this book. I know a number of the vessels that they sailed on - CHOICE, DAISY, SHIFT, WILLIAM. Thank you Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King) Melb, Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Neish" <neishnook@ibl.bm> To: <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:56 PM Subject: [ANGUS] Thomas Powrie - Ship-owner Dundee > Page 128 of Hamish Robertson's book > "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity"" > > QUOTE > 1837 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barbara Could you tell me if there are any LAWSONS listed in the book. Names of William, David, Peter were all in Merchant Service. Any info grately appreciated. Margaret Qld Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Neish" <neishnook@ibl.bm> To: <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:56 PM Subject: [ANGUS] Thomas Powrie - Ship-owner Dundee > Page 128 of Hamish Robertson's book > "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity"" > > QUOTE > 1837 > 8 January : > > The following Ship Owners met to consider the new shipping Bill > (Among the long list is ) > Thomas Powrie > (My Thomas Neish is also listed as attending that day) > > Page 153 of the same book > > QUOTE > During 1842 > > 1842-1843 Trustees of the Merchant Seaman's Fund > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

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Subject: [ANGUS] Dundee mariners James Boyd & Alexander Boyter Sorry Lynda Neither men are mentioned Barbara

Subject: Re: [ANGUS] "Mariners of Dundee" > "THOMAS NICOLL" was a "blockmaker' in Dundee [1785-1841 > George Robertson Nicoll [b. Dundee 1824] > JAMES ROBERTSON NICOLL [b. Dundee 1817] Sorry Liz None of the above are mentioned Barbara

Subject: Re: [ANGUS] "Mariners of Dundee" For Pat This may be of some interest to you as well, although CATHNESS is not mentioned by name. "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" by Hamish Robertson Page 160 QUOTE 1844 - 2 April Wreck of DAISY of Dundee, Captain Young, Dundee to Memel, wrecked at Roume Canal on 24 March. All crew safe, some with amputations due frost bite. Pat, I realise more than one ship was named DAISY - so this may not concern you. Cheers Barbara Neish Bermuda

I would be very interested if Alexander CAITHNESS or his son James Robertson CAITHNESS are mentioned in this book. I know a number of the vessels that they sailed on - CHOICE, DAISY, SHIFT, WILLIAM. For Pat & Liz There are several mentions of CAITHNESS and the vessels. Perhaps these entries are of interest ? "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" by Hamish Robertson QUOTE Page 100 1818 - 23 January Newspaper Advertisement Sale of Barquentine, or Snow ROSINA of Dundee, built under the Inspection of Alexander Caithness, late owner, in the year 1815. Apply to John Calman, shipbuilder in Dundee Page 107 1826 - 20 June Fraternity General Meeting James Caithness, joined 20 March 1821, made a Free Master of the Fraternity Page 80 1791 - 6 October Fraternity of Seaman Committee Meeting George Caithness made Free Master of the Fraternity Page 83 1797 - 9 February The Fraternity of Masters & Seaman in Dundee George Caithness Junior made a Free Master of the Fraternity (A George Caithness is also mentioned in the year 1874 - later than your George ?) Hope this helps Barbara Neish Bermuda

Just in case you are part of this tree Descendants of Robert Stephen 1 Robert Stephen b: 01 Jan 1738/39 in mill of gartley .. +Mary Watt m: 12 Feb 1755 in gartley .... 2 Alexander Stephen b: in Gartley Aberdeen before 12 feb 1775 ........ +Barbara Mathieson m: 03 Feb 1810 in Huntly Aberdeen (IGI Batch No 7530712) .......... 3 Alexander Stephen b: 08 Jun 1817 in ? why christenin before date birth d: 25 Nov 1889 in 70 Gordon street Huntly Aberdeenshre .............. +Margaret Clark b: 12 Jul 1832 in Huntly aberdeen IGI C112024 m: 26 Nov 1850 in Forgue d: 03 Feb 1908 in 16 littlr john street huntly aberdeenshire ................ 4 John Mitchell Stephen b: 07 Jun 1874 in 63 Bogie sreet HUNTLY ABERDEEN SCOTLAND d: 04 Aug 1954 in 43 erskine street aberdeen .................... +Jane Murdoch Johnstone b: 02 Aug 1875 in Scatterly King Edward near Turriff m: 06 Dec 1895 in Huntley d: 31 May 1951 in 43 erskine street aberdeenr ................ 4 Margaret Stephen b: 09 Feb 1853 in HUNTLY ABERDEEN SCOTLAND ................ 4 George Stephen b: 09 Nov 1855 in HUNTLY ABERDEEN SCOTLAND ................ 4 James Stephen b: 28 Mar 1858 in HUNTLY ABERDEEN SCOTLAND ................ 4 Isabella Stephen b: 03 Mar 1861 in HUNTLY ABERDEEN SCOTLAND ................ 4 Mary Stephen b: 08 Jul 1865 in HUNTLY ABERDEEN SCOTLAND ................ 4 Eliza Stephen b: 24 Nov 1865 in HUNTLY ABERDEEN SCOTLAND ................ 4 Alexander Stephen b: 06 Jul 1868 in HUNTLY ABERDEEN SCOTLAND ................ 4 David Stephen b: 14 Sep 1871 in HUNTLY ABERDEEN SCOTLAND ................ 4 Anne Stephen b: 1852 in drumblade d: 14 Oct 1918 in Buckie Moray .................... +Alexander Milton .......... 3 Barbara Stephen b: 07 Apr 1810 in Costlyburn aberdeen scotland .......... 3 Jean Stephen b: Bef. 16 Nov 1811 in Costlyburn Huntley aberdeen .............. +John Duffus m: 10 Aug 1844 in Gartley .......... 3 Mary Stephen b: 09 Jul 1813 .......... 3 Anne Stephen b: 02 Aug 1815 in Costly burn huntley .......... 3 James Stephen b: 08 Jun 1817 in Costley burn kinnoir 08/07/1817 d: 1874 in Gartley age 76 .............. +Anne Duncan b: 1827 in dOWMIN HUNTLY m: 10 Nov 1849 in HuntleY d: 01 Feb 1898 in Age 71 CLINKSTONE GLENS OF FOUNDLAND INSCH ................ 4 Ann Stephen b: 22 May 1856 in Gartley ................ 4 Alexander Stephen b: 24 Nov 1850 in CoRNCATTERICK FARM GARTLEY d: 10 Jun 1905 in Gartley .................... +Agnes Slorach b: 24 Jun 1867 in Kinnethmont m: 24 Jun 1893 in Huntley d: 06 Sep 1943 in CoRNCATerick farm age 76 ................ 4 Mary Stephen b: 04 Jul 1852 in CoRNCATerick Gartley ................ 4 James Stephen b: 18 Apr 1854 .................... +Jessie .......... 3 Margaret Stephen b: 12 Jun 1821 .......... 3 Jane Stephen b: 1811 d: 15 Mar 1873 in 8 Torry Street Huntly age 62 at 9.am .............. +James Sandison d: 04 Oct 1889 in pennyburn forge age 78 ................ 4 James Sandison b: Bef. 27 Jul 1847 d: 25 Mar 1867 in Torrie st Huntly age 19 ................ 4 Jane Sandison b: Bef. 23 May 1850 in Huntly Aberdeenshire d: 1889 in age 39 certificate nr 202 0060 .................... +Charles Riatt .... 2 James Stephen b: 10 Mar 1772 in Gartley Aberdeen ........ +Ann Mathieson b: Abt. 1774 m: 16 Feb 1805 in Gartley d: 09 Aug 1856 .......... 3 James Stephen b: 11 Dec 1805 .............. +Helen Horn m: 1825 in Gartley ................ 4 Ann Stephen b: 1825 ................ 4 Jean Stephen b: 1827 ................ 4 Helen Stephen b: 11 Oct 1828 .................... +John Peddie m: 10 Jun 1858 in Gartley .......... 3 Alexander Stephen b: 12 Dec 1807 d: 07 Jul 1863 .............. +Isabel Peddie m: 26 Nov 1859 in Gartley ................ 4 Mary Stephen b: 11 Jun 1859 in drumblade .......... 3 Jean Stephen b: 11 Jul 1809 in drumblade .......... 3 Ann Stephen b: 31 Jan 1812 in Gartley .... 2 Mary Stephen b: 22 Dec 1775 in Gartley Aberdeen thank you for taking the time to read this irene c --- Lesley Robertson _________________________________________________________________ E -- T No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.57/2060 - Release Date: 15/04/2009 06:34

> Could you tell me if there are any LAWSONS listed in the book. Names of > William, David, Peter were all in Merchant Service. Any info grately > appreciated. Hello Margaret Several LAWSON - but no LAWSONS - mentioned in the book :: "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" by Hamish Robertson LAWSON includes a Peter entry back in 1687 to a David in 1910 Do you have any dates of interest ? Regards Barbara Neish Bermuda

> "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - > Their Fraternity" > by Hamish Robertson > i am reading a letter from a Canadian NICOLL descendent written to me about 1980; this gentleman is now deceased. He went on to tell a story about GEORGE ROBERTSON NICOLL [born Dundee 1824] and how sailing from Dundee to America then on to Australia but being shipwrecked in Figi and "his shipmates being eaten by cannabals" . I was about to discount all this but discovered by Googling <George Robertson Nicoll> , that he wrote up his 50 years of travels in 1899, and the manuscript is in the Australian Archives!. a summary was written up in NLA News, July 2003 called "For the Love of Travel: China through the eyes of a nineteenth century Scot". I understand that GEORGE ROBERTSON NICOLL returned to England {isle of Wight] : he was there in 1901 census and he apparently died there. OK a trip to Australia is needed here. Liz of BC Canada

thanks Barbara, the George Caithness info much appreciated... my "THOMAS NICOLL" was a "blockmaker' in Dundee [1785-1841]; I am not sure if that was making "block and tackle" or in the print industry. .the naming after a shipmaster could imply in shipping industry but his son's son was a bookbinder and another son was another blockmaker...a mystery. another NICOLL person, George Robertson Nicoll [b. Dundee 1824] was apparently in shipping in Australia? and was a shipbuilder...am wondering if HE might appear in the book also? and JAMES ROBERTSON NICOLL[b. Dundee 1817] "had interests in Peterhead Whaling Fleet" according to elderly family members. If you can bear another lookup, I'd appreciate it. thanks Liz of BC Canada

hi I have an ancestor GEORGE NICOLL ...born 1801 Dundee to Thomas Nicoll and Jean Chalmers who is named after 'GEORGE CAITHNESS, shipmaster" --any relation to your Alexander or James Robertson Caithness? and in fact, I have numerous JAMES ROBERTSON NICOLLs..?? is George Caithness written up in the "Mariners of Dundee"? book. thanks Liz of BC Canada On Apr 16, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Pat Wade wrote: > Hi, > > I would be very interested if Alexander CAITHNESS > or his son James Robertson CAITHNESS are mentioned > in this book.