Thanks again Barbara. There were early spellings of Louson. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Neish" <neishnook@ibl.bm> To: <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Thomas Powrie - Ship-owner Dundee Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Thomas Powrie - Ship-owner Dundee For "Margaret Silvester" Perhaps ? Note spelling of one entry is LOWSON though Peter LAWSON b 1828 Dunbar d 1890 Methil, Wemyss "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" by Hamish Robertson QUOTE Page 203 1873 - 6 June Ship WILD ROSE, Charles Dorward Master, Peter Lowson Pilot at Dundee, charged with incorrectly declaring draft of vessel arriving at Dundee. Lowson fined £ 1 Page 203 also (no first name) 1873 - 30 May First steamer of the season to Archangel was LINDISFARNE, Captain Lawson of Dundee Regards Barbara Neish Bermuda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barbara, In your Dundee mariners was there mention of John Thomson born 1779 Dundee. He was at the Battle of Copenhagen. warm regards Lyn from Australia 2009/4/17 Barbara Neish <neishnook@ibl.bm> > Subject: [ANGUS] Dundee mariners > > > James Boyd & Alexander Boyter > > Sorry Lynda > > Neither men are mentioned > > Barbara > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Barbara. It all helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Neish" <neishnook@ibl.bm> To: <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:46 PM Subject: [ANGUS] Thomas Powrie - Ship-owner Dundee > Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Thomas Powrie - Ship-owner Dundee > > > For Margaret Re :: > John LAWSON b 1824 Dunbar d 1908 Haddington > > "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" > By Hamish Robertson > (The book is available through The Tay Valley Family History Society) > > Many of the LAWSON named entries seems to fall outside your dates, > however, > I will keep checking. In the meantime, perhaps the following one is of > interest ? > > QUOTE > Page 151 > 1842 - 13 March > Sloop THOMAS of Perth, John Lawson Master, from Wemyss with coals, > sunk 3 miles west of Dundee. Crew of Master, one man and one boy all > saved. > > Regards > Barbara Neish > Bermuda > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I have an Elizabeth Lousen who married Peter Donald date unknown, place unknown. I do know they had twin sons, David (my ancestor) and John, christened 12 July 1796 in Lintrathen. Can anyone tell me about the Lousen name? Is it connected to Lowson or some other spelling? I haven't started to do any research on either Peter Donald or Elizabeth Lousen's parents, and I guess I should get started. Anne Godfrey A Veteran is someone who at one point wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America". Please take time to say "Thanks". That is Honor, and there are way too many people who no longer understand it. "The budget should be balanced, the treasury should be refilled, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and assistance to foreign lands should be reduced lest the State become bankrupt. The people should be forced to work and not depend upon the government for subsistence." Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC. _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009

Barbara, I appreciate your offer to look up names of Dundee mariners. My gr gr grandfather, JAMES WEST was a whaler out of Dundee. He was a young man and served somewhere between 1853 and 1862. Thanks for your help. Frank Franconefjfrancone@msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Storage2_042009

Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Dundee mariners > Can you tell me what years this covered please > Thanks > Berry Berry "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" by Hamish Robertson The Fraternity is a very old one. My friend Hamish once told me :: QUOTE First mention of a Seamen's Fraternity was in 1554 when the Burgesses of the town of Dundee requested Dundee Ship Masters and Seamen to form an organisation to levy dues, or taxes, on arriving and departing ships. In due course the Fraternity became responsible for pilotage on River Tay and installing buoys and lighthouses for the safety of ships and seamen. In this role the Fraternity built lighthouses at Buddonness and Tayport. Although the role of the Fraternity has declined since the 1840s, there remains a resolute membership of 70 mariners dedicated to maintaining the original concepts and responsibilities. END Entries in his book span those years - not a complete record, of course, Many time just a listing of those attending a meeting, being accepting into the Fraternity and etc. He published his book in 2006 Regards Barbara Neish Bermuda

"Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" by Hamish Robertson Dick Johnston's ships, and Patrick Barry's ships 1850- 1875 Sorry Barbara No mention of the above

Hi Barbara, Can you tell me what years this covered please Thanks Berry 2009/4/18 Barbara Neish <neishnook@ibl.bm> > Kaye > > Just Dundee - Captain Hamish Robertson is a member of "The Fraternity of > Masters and Seamen in Dundee" and collected together and published a record > of their meetings and etc. over the many, many years of the existence of > the Fraternity. > > Barbara > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Barbara, I am also a Robertson but don't find a Hamish in the line. But again my Robertson's are Perth. Auch Weel! Kaye In a message dated 4/17/2009 10:26:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, neishnook@ibl.bm writes: Kaye Just Dundee - Captain Hamish Robertson is a member of "The Fraternity of Masters and Seamen in Dundee" and collected together and published a record of their meetings and etc. over the many, many years of the existence of the Fraternity. Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221246370x1201421635/aol?redir=http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html?cat=adbuy&src=pl atforma&adid=aolfooter&newurl=reg_path.html)

Kaye Just Dundee - Captain Hamish Robertson is a member of "The Fraternity of Masters and Seamen in Dundee" and collected together and published a record of their meetings and etc. over the many, many years of the existence of the Fraternity. Barbara

Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Dundee mariners John Thomson born 1779 Dundee. For Lyn from Australia "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" By Hamish Robertson One mention of a John Thomson QUOTE Page 84 1799 - 19 September - 19 December The Fraternity of Master and Seamen in Dundee General and Committee Meetings : (In a list with 3 others - included :) John Thomson Admitted as Seaman members of the Fraternity Regards Barbara Neish Bermuda

Barbara are these just seaman from Dundee or are there seaman also from Perth? I have a James Robertson seaman born around 1817 and no mention where he was born, married to a Helen Constable Shewster in Perth. I also have a George Shewster listed as a seaman and he was born in 1810 in Perth. Kaye In a message dated 4/17/2009 9:48:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, neishnook@ibl.bm writes: Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Dundee mariners John Thomson born 1779 Dundee. For Lyn from Australia "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" By Hamish Robertson One mention of a John Thomson QUOTE Page 84 1799 - 19 September - 19 December The Fraternity of Master and Seamen in Dundee General and Committee Meetings : (In a list with 3 others - included :) John Thomson Admitted as Seaman members of the Fraternity Regards Barbara Neish Bermuda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221246370x1201421635/aol?redir=http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html?cat=adbuy&src=pl atforma&adid=aolfooter&newurl=reg_path.html)

Hello Lyn in Australia: Who are your parents for John Thomson born 1779 Dundee? I have a Janet Thomson married to a James Bell who were in Dundee in 1805 and her parents were Robert Thomson and Janet Bell married in 1771 in Monimail Fife. Thanks in advance. Robert and Janet would be my third great grandparents and their daughter Janet married to James Bell would be my twice great grandparents. Thanks in advance. Kaye In a message dated 4/17/2009 9:25:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, winalape@gmail.com writes: Hi Barbara, In your Dundee mariners was there mention of John Thomson born 1779 Dundee. He was at the Battle of Copenhagen. warm regards Lyn from Australia 2009/4/17 Barbara Neish <neishnook@ibl.bm> > Subject: [ANGUS] Dundee mariners > > > James Boyd & Alexander Boyter > > Sorry Lynda > > Neither men are mentioned > > Barbara > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221246370x1201421635/aol?redir=http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html?cat=adbuy&src=pl atforma&adid=aolfooter&newurl=reg_path.html)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lauraolmstead Surnames: Coull Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1865.1.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Gordon, I have some information on the other daughters, but it's all with my mother's papers that I still have to sort. Margaret Malcolm was my grandmother. I have a lovely photograph of the seven sisters together. I'm assuming Jane Kydd Coull was "Auntie Janet" and I know very little about her. I will email you what I find on the others. Thanks, Laura Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GordonPertJohnson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1865.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This Joseph Mearns Coull was actually the second of this name, his younger brother having been born 25 April 1837, bapt. 7 May 1837. The one born 1841 was baptised simply as Joseph, but must have assumed the Mearns middle name, as he appears with it in his obituary (Aberdeen Journal, 27 March 1920, page 6). Married to Jean Baxter, they had 9 children, buty I only have descent from 2 of them (Jane Kydd Coull and Margaret Malcolm Coull). I'd be pleased to get further data on this family coming forwards in time. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Barbara, In the Dundee Mariners do you see George Banks, James M. Banks, James Maxwell, or Alexander Grimmond? Thank You, Catherine

Thank you Barbara, thins indeed looks promising. My family include: William LAWSON b Aug 1772 at Dunbar d Sep 1829 (presumed) was a Mariner md to Margaret WATSON William LAWSON b 1793 (son of above William) d Aug 1875 at Church St., Dunbar md to Margaret KING 1851 Census lists him on board "Sisters of Inverness" at Aberdeen. Later Census listed at Church St., Dunbar, retired Ship's Master. John LAWSON b 1824 Dunbar d 1908 Haddington md Ann PATERSON (son of William above b 1793) 1891 Census listed at Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Qayside, Mariner. Peter LAWSON b 1828 Dunbar d 1890 Methil, Wemyss md Isabella VALLANCE (brother of John and son of William b 1793 above) 1851 Census listed on board "Sisters of Inverness" at Aberdeen with father 1861 Census listed on "Huntingdon of Leith" 1881 Census listed on "Sarah & Ann" at Cramond MLN, Ship's Master David LAWSON b 1836 Dunbar d 1914 at West St., Dundee md Elizabeth ANDERSON (2nd md Elizabeth HALL) (brother of John and Peter and son of William b 1793 above) 1861 Census listed with brother on "Huntingdon of Leith", Ship's Mate 1871 Census listed at 25 Charles St., Dundee, Dock Gate Man where he remained till death. (I am descended from David). There are other brothers whose details are not confirmed so anyone named LAWSON is likely to be connected. I have a crooked path going back beyond William b1793 so perhaps the early mariners listed are also family. Thank you for looking this up. Is the book available to purchase somewhere? Margaret Qld Australia > Several LAWSON - but no LAWSONS - mentioned in the book :: > "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" by > Hamish Robertson > LAWSON includes a Peter entry back in 1687 to a David in 1910 > Do you have any dates of interest ? > Regards > Barbara Neish > Bermuda > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barbara, Never mind - thanks a million for looking. Best wishes, Sue -----Original Message----- From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Neish Sent: 17 April 2009 15:42 To: angus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANGUS] "Mariners of Dundee" James TOSH (1817-1878). "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" By Hamish Robertson Sorry Sue No mention of James TOSH Regards Barbara

Hi Barbara, The book sounds really interesting, especially as I seem to have countless mariners in my own ancestry! I wonder, are there any TOSHes mentioned in the book? My TOSHes all seem to have been Dundee mariners, right up to James TOSH (1817-1878). Any info on the TOSHes would be eagerly and gratefully received! ;-) Best wishes, Sue

Thank you anyway Barbara. Lynda On 17/04/2009, at 11:35 AM, Barbara Neish wrote: > Subject: [ANGUS] Dundee mariners > > > James Boyd & Alexander Boyter > > Sorry Lynda > > Neither men are mentioned > > Barbara > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >