Hello Could you kindly do a look up for 2 Mariners George Millar or Miller born 1870 and a John Paterson Smith born 1873 Kindest Regards Kristina Cameron (NZ)

thanks, and yes, there were two of them Plumbers in 1901...this helps alot, Liz On Apr 19, 2009, at 2:01 AM, Lesley Robertson wrote: > > > >> To: ANGUS@rootsweb.com >> From: harviebarker@shaw.ca >> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:48:30 -0700 >> Subject: [ANGUS] help with 1891 census for Dundee, THOMAS NICOLL >> >> .Dear folks. I need some help with finding THOMAS NICOLL and family in >> Dundee in 1891. I cannot open this census download on Scotlandspeople >> [some of you are aware of my computer problems]. >> >> The household should contain THOMAS NICOLL age 50, wife Margaret 51, >> Christian 25, possibly Thomas 26, James 23, John 20, George 18, and >> for >> sure: Henry 15, Fred 13, Ann 12, Jessie 10 and Charles 7. This family >> should be living at Crofts Lane or Peddie St as the street was >> renamed. >> All children were born in Dundee. > > > > I've had a look at the Ancestry transcript and the address is given as > 20 Peddies St, > > Reg District St Peter, Civil Parish Liff and Benvie, Angus. Their > address wasn't included in Dundee. > > > > Not all kids are there. Son's occupations: > > John clerk, George & Henry plumber's apprentice, children from Fred > down, scholar. Christina's > > the only older child at home, she doesn't have an occupation shown. > > > > There's a possible James. > > one married to Ann Jane, 38 Hill St, Dundee, machine fitter > > > > Lesley Robertson > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Looking for any information about James Logie Chalmers and Margaret Robertson both born approximately 1780.  Margaret Robertson was born in Kirriemuir and died at Balmuckety.  I have had no success finding their marriage or James' birth or death.  I have searched Scotlandspeople.  In 1841 Margaret was living with her daughter Margaret Stewart in Balmuckety.  Any suggestions on how I can find James' birth, death or marriage to Margaret Robertson are appreciated. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pata41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5558.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You could try a search at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ I don`t have any credits there right now but I did do a search for the birth of Stewart Robertson in 1915 in Angus (the county where Dundee is located) & got one hit. I couldn`t check the record, though. You can buy 30 credits for about $8.00 US. You`ll need a credit card. The record should show the mother`s maiden name as well as the father. Pat R. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deb4529 Surnames: Robertson in the 1900's Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5558/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm Looking for The Family Parents on these Robertson boys Mother name is Ann L. born 1886 in Dundee.The n came to the USA. Mich.I have Stewart C. Born Sep.23-1910-James L. Born Jan.01-1904-Alexander Henry.Born Mar.0-1912-Henry K. Born Apr.22-1917 all born Dundee,came to the US in 1928.There Mother Ann remarried to Thomas Gordon bef.1925.Need the Robertson Boys Father so I can go back in time.I don't have a last name or Parent on Ann.These Boys all died in Mi.The Death Cert.has Unknown Father and all four boys used Ann Gordon on there Records.Hope someone can fine this Family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Jim: possible correction to the 1805 Barry OPR's 1802 David Son to David Key weaver Buddon and his Spouse Jean Skirling was Born March 15 Key comparing the 1802 entry with the 1805 entry could the occupation be weaver 1805 George Son to David Key beathea and his Spouse Jean Skerling was born August 14 Key Arlene

.Dear folks. I need some help with finding THOMAS NICOLL and family in Dundee in 1891. I cannot open this census download on Scotlandspeople [some of you are aware of my computer problems]. The household should contain THOMAS NICOLL age 50, wife Margaret 51, Christian 25, possibly Thomas 26, James 23, John 20, George 18, and for sure: Henry 15, Fred 13, Ann 12, Jessie 10 and Charles 7. This family should be living at Crofts Lane or Peddie St as the street was renamed. All children were born in Dundee. I am most interested in what the older sons were doing, ie, their occupations. I am trying to find them in 1901 after they have left the parental home but there are numerous other Nicolls in Dundee of the same age and given names. With occupations I might be able to narrow down my choices. I have the parents and 4 youngest children in 1901. Christian married Joseph Shuttleworth in 1897 and I have them in 1901. If anyone has access to the 1891 census and can tell me what the occupations for these young men was, i would be most appreciative. thanks Liz of BC Canada

Barbara, Thanks for taking the time to look! Bill -----Original Message----- From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Neish Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 4:14 PM To: angus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANGUS] mariners Subject: Re: [ANGUS] mariners William Symon, born ~1807, Montrose is listed. Sorry Bill William is not included. The only Symon is an 1831 mention of an Adam Symon, - noted as - Common Councillor, Harbour Trustee Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _______________________________________ No viruses found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.4 http://www.iolo.com _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.4 http://www.iolo.com

Subject: Re: [ANGUS] mariners William Symon, born ~1807, Montrose is listed. Sorry Bill William is not included. The only Symon is an 1831 mention of an Adam Symon, - noted as - Common Councillor, Harbour Trustee Barbara

Page 50 Names (1804) Surnames MargaretPRW Daughter to Alexr Hog weaver Taym Fews and his Spouse Barb Lorimer was born Janry 29 Hog Margaret Born to James Whitton weaver Deyhouse and his Spouse Matilda Whitton Janry 29 Whitton Ann Daughter to David Smith weaver Taymouth and his Spouse Jannet Donaldson was born March 10 Smith Campbell Daughter to Colin Mainds smith Barry and his Spouse Jannet Peat was born March 19 Mainds Susan Daughter to Al Chrystal labourer Ravensbay and his Spouse Barb Karey was born April 13 Chrystal Margaret Daughter to James Whitton balwindry and his Spouse Margaret Black was born April 11 Whitton Betty Born to Geo Ramsay weaver Barrie and his Spouse Flory Whitton April 21 Ramsay Margaret Born to Andrew Gibson weaver Up Moston and his Spouse Margt Paton April 18 Gibson Annie Born to Alexr Young farmer Cottside and Elizabeth White his Spouse May 25 Young David Born to Francis Whitton wright Barrie and his Spouse Nannie Chrystie June 2 Robert Born to Robert Forbes labourer and his Spouse Margt Cant June 10 Forbes Isobel Born to Robert Nicol weaver Taymouth and his Spouse Isobel Anderson August 1 Nicol Susan Born to William Templeman shannel and his Spouse Elizabeth Lesslie Septr 7 Templeman William Born to Alexr Sword weaver Barrie and his Spouse Marget Butchert Novr 25 Sword Isabel Daughter to John Smith weaver Taymouth and his Spouse Mary Gibson was born Decr 18 Smith Jannet Daughter to Al Graham Flaxdresser Deyhouse and his Spouse Isabel Anderson was born Jany 3 Graham Alex Born to John Wilson labourer Carnoustie and his Spouse Joice Hogg Feby 27 Page 51 Names (1805) Surnames Jannet Daughter to Al Graham flaxdresser Deyhouse and his Spouse Isabel Anderson Born Janry 3 Graham Margaret Born to David Lyell barnman Balskellie and his Spouse Isobel Blair Janry 9 Lyell Barb & Isobel Twin Daughters Born to James Smith weaver Deyhouse and his Spouse Margt Lorimer Janry 18 Smith John Peter Born to Mr Alexr Symers preacher of the Gospil Barrie and his Spouse Clementina Carnegy Janry 29 Symers Margaret Born to Robert Kyd weaver Barrie and his Spouse Helen Thomson Febry 14 Kyd Agnes Daughter to Andrew Gibson tayler Deyhouse and his Spouse Margaret Whitton was born Febry 18 Gibson Peter Born to Wm Anderson weaver Cottside and his Spouse Jean Brown Febry 28 Anderson Charles Son to David Bertie narn Miller point & his Spouse Isobel Wood was born April 12 Bertie David Born to Thomas Young cowbyres and his Spouse Maidy Scott April 22d Young Barbara PRW Born to Robert Patoun shoemaker Fews and his Spouse Helen Mill May 1 Patoun Wm Born to Robt Scott weaver Moss holes and his Spouse Barb Ferrier May 21 Scott Robert Born to James Fyffe weaver Taymouth and his Spouse Mary Black was born June 4 Fyffe George Son to Peter Ferrier shoemaker Fews and his Spouse Ann Norrie was born June 6 Ferrier James Son to David Scott weaver Deyhouse and his Spouse Margt Christy was born June 3 Scott James Son to Alexr Brown shoemaker Barrie and his Spouse Helen Mill was born June 6 Brown Andrew Son to John Butchert weaver Taym Fews and his Spouse Nannie Anderson was born June 16 Butchert Betty Daughter to James Scott wright Deyhouse and his Spouse Elizabeth Brown was born June 25 Scott Robert Son to James Mitchel weaver Buddon and his Spouse Isobel Butchert was born June 27 Mitchell Page 52 Names (1805) Surnames James Son to Robt Butchert weaver Upper Moston and his Spouse Margt Petrie was born August 12 Butchert George Son to David Key beathea and his Spouse Jean Skerling was born August 14 Key Thomas Son to David Whitton upper Moston and his Spouse Jannet Patoun was born August 24 Whitton David Son to George Cant weaver Nether Moston and his Spouse Margt Hogg was born August 25 Cant Isobel Daughter to Robert Barrie weaver Upper Moston and his Spouse Jean Nicol was born Barrie Agnes Daughter to James Lowson weaver Upper mill and his Spouse Jean Mitchell was born Septr 4 Lowson James Son to Robert Whitton weaver Cowbyres and his Spouse Ann Guild was born Septr 5 Whitton Mary Daughter to Dabr McKartney tin smith Lt House and his Spouse Jean Small Septr 14 McKartney Alexander Son to Andrew Airth smith Barrie & his Spouse Margt Kyd was born Septr 14 Airth Isobel Daughter to Peter Hog weaver Fews and his Spouse Barb Lorimer was born Octr 13 Hog Betty Daughter to David Ferrier weaver Cowbyres and his Spouse May Patterson was born Octr 18 Ferrier Jean Daughter to John Lowson wright Taymouth Fews and his Spouse Jean Simpson was born Novr 25 Lowson Betty Daughter to John Thomson weaver Fews and his Wife Tibby Rait was born Decr 11 Thomson

Subject: Re: [ANGUS] mariners George Millar or Miller born 1870 and a John Paterson Smith born 1873 Kristina Cameron (NZ) Sorry Kristina Neither are mentioned Barbara

>From Ancestry Directories Name: Thomas Powrie Dates: 1801-1825 Location: Town: Dundee County/Colonial: Scotland Dundee Occupation: Occupation: manufacturer Gender: Male Address: Address: Chapelshade &Nbsp;Town: Dundee &Nbsp;County/Colonial: Scotland Source Date: 1818 Source Info: Listed in, [Dundee, 1818] The Dundee Directory for 1818. [Titlepage damaged], 1818, COLVILLE, A. & Co., Dundee Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > _http://www.dmcsoft.com/tamh/marvoy.php_ > (http://www.dmcsoft.com/tamh/marvoy.php) has many of these men including > my Thomas Powrie. > > TAHM has an online museum. > > Mary

Hi Bob Perhaps to early but ............ >From Ancestry Directories Name: Alexander Japp Dates: 1801-1825 Location: Dundee Gender: Male personal notes: Personal notes: 63 tons 73 parts, built in 1807, owned by George Clark Office Holdings: Office Naval: Master of the Dame Source Date: 1818 Source Info: Listed in, [Dundee, 1818] The Dundee Directory for 1818. [Titlepage damaged], 1818, COLVILLE, A. & Co., Dundee Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Barbara > > when Elizabeth died on 28th August 1872, at Liff and Benvie Poorhouse > Dundee, age 52 years, > her father is recorded as Alexander Japp, Seaman M S, decd, > > any mention? > > Bob

Hi Barbara when Elizabeth died on 28th August 1872, at Liff and Benvie Poorhouse Dundee, age 52 years, her father is recorded as Alexander Japp, Seaman M S, decd, any mention? Bob

Could you check to see if a William Symon, born ~1807, Montrose is listed. Thank You Bill Banbury -----Original Message----- From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Neish Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 5:20 PM To: candoit@xtra.co.nz; angus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANGUS] mariners Subject: Re: [ANGUS] mariners George Millar or Miller born 1870 and a John Paterson Smith born 1873 Kristina Cameron (NZ) Sorry Kristina Neither are mentioned Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Quoting Barbara Neish <neishnook@ibl.bm>: > > "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" > by Hamish Robertson Barbara, Would there be mention of Dick Johnston's ships, and Patrick Barry's ships during 1850- 1875 for Dick Johnston, a shorter period for Patrick? Thanks, Barbara Melb Aust.

For Bob - Re : Alexander Japp, Seaman "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" by Hamish Robertson QUOTE Page 102 1820 - 21 March Fraternity General Meeting ..... and Alexander Japp admitted members of the Fraternity Page 106 1824 - 21 September Fraternity General Meeting Alexander Japp, joined 21 March 1821, made a Free Master of the Fraternity Page 133 1839 - 17 May Committee Meeting The committee agree to allow Alexander Japp one of the members the sum of ten shillings per week for taking charge of the recently purchased Cutter and making himself generally useful to the Fraternity and that during the pleasure of the Boxmaster for the time. Page 156 1843 - 20 June Fraternity General Meeting The following Charities ordered to be paid by the Boxmaster (included in those listed) Alexander Japp £ 4.10/- Page 169 & 170 1848 - 19 September Fraternity General Meeting Vacancy of post of Officer of the Fraternity due death of John Kincaird (included in the listing) Alexander Japp (all) Free Master Members Alexander Japp joined as a Mate Member of the Fraternity Hope this helps Regards Barbara Neish Bermuda

_http://www.dmcsoft.com/tamh/marvoy.php_ (http://www.dmcsoft.com/tamh/marvoy.php) has many of these men including my Thomas Powrie. TAHM has an online museum. Mary In a message dated 4/18/2009 12:45:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, beajaym@alphalink.com.au writes: Quoting Barbara Neish <neishnook@ibl.bm>: > > "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" > by Hamish Robertson Barbara, Would there be mention of Dick Johnston's ships, and Patrick Barry's ships during 1850- 1875 for Dick Johnston, a shorter period for Patrick? Thanks, Barbara Melb Aust. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003)

Subject: Re: [ANGUS] mariners JAMES WEST was a whaler out of Dundee. Sorry Frank No mention of your James West in Hamish's book However - in Norman Watson's book ,The Dundee Whalers, he mentions a Capt West in 1878 in connection with the Dundee-registered RAVENSCRAIG Regards Barbara

Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Dundee mariners For Catherine "Mariners of Dundee - Their City - Their River - Their Fraternity" by Hamish Robertson George Banks James Maxwell QUOTE Page 103 1821 - 21 May Fraternity General Meeting : George Banks admitted a member of the Fraternity Page 107 1826 - 21 March Fraternity General Meeting Following made Free Masters of the Fraternity (3 listed including ) George Bans, Joined 21 May, 1821 Page 135 1840 - 17 March Fraternity General Meeting Present : (included in the listing) George Banks Page 154 1843 - 14 February Meeting of the Seaman Fraternity Present : (included in the listing) George Banks Page 172 1850 - (Date ?) The Sub Committee of Examiners of Masters and Mates who are to conduct the examinations alternately in the Nautical Department complised : (included in the list of 15) George Banks Page 204 1874 - January Dundee Trinity House Abstract of the Boxmaster's Intromissions for the year ended Christmas 1873 : Free Master Members who obtain a Pension of £ 15.15/ - per annum : (included in the listing) George Banks Page 253 1960 During 1960 : Dundee Harbour Trustees : (included in the listing) James Maxwell, Traffic Superintendent James M. Banks is not mentioned, although a "James Walter Banks" is - in 1860, 18 December when he was transferred to Mate Class Alexander Grimmond is not mentioned. Hope this helps. Regards Barbara Neish Bermuda