Hi David >From the GRO index England Marriages Jun quarter 1932 BREMNER Robert STAMMERS Gladys K Willesden 3a 556 And a possible child Name: Jill Bremner Mother's Maiden Surname: Stammers Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1932 Registration district: Hendon Registration county: Hertfordshire, Oxfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Middlesex Volume Number: 3a Page Number: 689 Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Dear list . I am new to the list and i am trying to find information about > Robert BREMNER he was born 1906 In ANGUS . Regards David

> Thanks for the advice i dont have much information about him > except he died > 1980 at Winchester and married a GLADYS > KATHLEEN STAMMERS . Ah! You need to find the marriage certificate, then. If he married in England it will tell you the name of his father. If he married in Scotland it will tell you the names of both his parents. I've had a look at ww.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and there is no matching marriage up to 1933, when the online index ends. Also http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl, but nothing there either. So the chances are that he married some time shortly after the end of both indexes. Did he have children? If so, roughly when was the first one born? Anne

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Anne .Thanks for the advice i dont have much information about him except he died 1980 at Winchester and married a GLADYS KATHLEEN STAMMERS . REGARDS. DAVID

Thank you very much Anne & Nivard for your time and very detailed replies. As you suggest I have some sorting out to do, which has commenced. Kind Regards Iris

> I am new to the list and i am trying to find information about > Robert > BREMNER he was born 1906 In ANGUS If that is really the only thing you know about him, then your best plan would be to look for his birth certificate at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and hope that there are not too many Robert Bremners born in that year. If you have more information about him, it might help to home in on the right person. Did he marry? If so, when, where and whom? Have you seen his marriage certificate? Did he died in Scotland? If so, have you seen his death certificate? HTH Anne

Dear list . I am new to the list and i am trying to find information about Robert BREMNER he was born 1906 In ANGUS . Regards David

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Hello everyone, I am researching my ancestors with the last names of WALLACE and HILL I am looking for suggestions/ideas on finding more info on my ancestors: Robert Wallace (also spelled Walace) and Ann Hill. I have found a little information on-line. On Ancestry.com -- Scotland 1841 and 1851 cenus: They are found in the Dundee area, where Robert was employed in the textile industry. According to the census, they were born in County Monaghan, Ireland. Robert was born about 1803 - 1806, Ann Hill about 1811. IRELAND: I have been in touch with a Monaghan Co., Ireland, researcher, Jack Storey, who felt that they were Presbyterian. He has many records of Wallaces and Hills, but the records are not from the early 1800s. I have purchased these records but haven’t looked at them yet. I wonder if I could figure out which families Robert and Ann belonged to, amongst the Wallaces and Hills. SCOTLAND: According to the 1841 Scotland census: Robert Walace (Spelled with one “L”), was 35; born about 1806; born in Ireland; Civil Parish: Liff, Benvie, and Invergowrie; County: Angus; Address: Village of Lochee; Occupation: Flax roling Overseer; Parish Number: 301. Living at that address were his wife, Ann Hill, and two sons: John Wallace, 5; and David Wallace, 2. I did find on the IGI (familysearch.org ( http://www.familysearch.org )) a christening record for David: June 12, 1839 at the United Associate Congregation, Lochee, Angus, Scotland. I can go to the local Morman Church library and order the microfilm and see what other info may be on the christening record. According to the 1851 census: Robert was age 48, so born abour 1803; head of household, spouse’s name: Ann; Where born: County Meraylar (this must be a misspelling of Monaghan), Ireland; Parish Number: 282; Civil Parish: Liff and Benvie; Town: Lochee; County: Angus; Address: North Donalds Land; Occupation: Spinning Mill Overseer; ED: 102; Page: 31; Household schedule number: 110; Line 12; roll: CSSCT 1851_63. Other household members: Ann Wallace, age 42; John Wallace, 14; David Wallace, 12; Mary Wallace, 7; Margaret Wallace, 5; and William Wallace, 2. There are 6 other women living there, all employed in the textile industry. I have found on the IGI (www.familysearch) site, the baptismal record for one more of the children: Margaret Lawson <Walace> christened May 18, 1845 at the United Associate Congregation, Lochee, Angus, Scotland. I’ve always known of my great-great grandmother as being named “Margaret Lawson Wallace.” I’ve never figured out where the “Lawson” came in. But one of the people living in the household according to the 1851 census was “Margaret Lawin” age 28, and there is a “Lawin” (no first name) age 17. Perhaps Lawson is a misspelling of Lawin. It was interesting to find her listed as Margaret Lawson (Walace) in the IGI christening record, as none of the other children are recorded with middle names. According to my grandpa, his grandmother, Margaret Lawson Wallace, was proud of her Scottish heritage and would tell him stories when he was a youngster living in the wilderness near Clare, Michigan. According to my grandpa, “She moved with her father and brothers and sister to Canada when she was nine years old.” Therefore, they came to Canada about 1855. They lived first in Montreal and then moved to Ontario, and lived in London, Bothwell, Hamilton areas.” I am thinking that Anne Hill Wallace, died in Scotland, or perhaps on the way to Canada. There are so many Wallaces in the Ontario records (ancestry.com and Ontario censuses) with the same names as what I’m looking for (the father, Robert, and the brothers), that I haven’t been able to identify, for sure, my Wallace ancestors in Canada. I have found their sister, Mary and her husband, in Ontario. Margaret Lawson married Thomas Kelly Bell. I have found baptism info on Ancestry.com for several of their children. They moved to Clare County, Michigan, in the 1880s. Any suggestions or info are welcomed! Judy Lessard Editorial Assistant Publications and Media Relations College of Veterinary Medicine Michigan State University F-130 Veterinary Medical Center East Lansing, MI 48824 Telephone: 517-355-0001 CVM website: http://cvm.msu.edu ( http://cvm.msu.edu/ )

Hi, can anyone help me sort out two families. I have a Jane Hardie Davidson born 2/7/1851 Saint Vigeans, Angus. married 1872 in Arbroath to Alexander Mann Dundas born 1853. There children are shown as: Baby (-1911) John Davidson (1873-) Ellen Thorborn (1877-) Isabel Jane (1878-) William (1881-) George (1886-) Annie Carnegie (1887-) Norah (1889-) Elizabeth (1891-) Alexander (1892-) Could this be confirmed. I have also found another Alexander Dundas born 1853, wife unknown, with the children shown below, (possibly born in or around Kirriemuir) John (1874-) Alexander M (1875-) Edgar R Dundas (1879-) Ada Jane (1883-) Harold H (1884-) Stanley C (1887-) Ralph L (1890-) Norman (1891-) Anymore information this family would be appreciated. Jane Hardie Davidson's parents were John Davidson & Margaret Thomson, that is the only information I have about them.. Thank you.....Iris .....Australia.

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As Anne suggests, I think you have a little sorting to do :-) >From Ancestry's transcripts 1881 to 1901 Name: Alex M Dundas Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Jane H D Gender: Male Where born: St Vigeans, Forfarshire Registration Number: 272 Registration district: Arbroath Civil Parish: St Vigeans County: Angus Address: Zetland House (Princes St.) Occupation: Commercial Traveller Draping ED: 5 Household schedule number: 221 Line: 21 Roll: cssct1881_76 Household Members: Name Age Alex M Dundas 31 Jane H D Dundas 29 John D Dundas 7 Alex M Dundas 6 Edgar R Dundas 2 Jane M Kinney 18 Parish: St Vigeans; ED: 5; Page: 35; Line: 21; Roll: cssct1881_76; Year: 1881. Name: Alexander M Dundon Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Jane H Gender: Male Where born: Arbroath, Forfarshire Registration Number: 272 Registration district: Arbroath Civil Parish: Arbroath and St Vigeans Town: Arbroath County: Angus Address: 12 Princes St Occupation: Commercial Traveller ED: 5 Household schedule number: 198 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1891_81 Household Members: Name Age Alexander M Dundon 41 Jane H Dundon 39 John D Dundon 17 Alexander M Dundon 15 Edgar R Dundon 12 Ada J Dundon 8 Harold H Dundon 7 Parish: Arbroath and St Vigeans; ED: 5; Page: 28; Line: 18; Roll: CSSCT1891_81; Year: 1891. Name: Alexander M Dundas Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Jane D Gender: Male Where born: Arbroath, Forfarshire Registration Number: 272/1 Registration district: Arbroath Civil Parish: Arbroath Town: Arbroath County: Angus Address: 12 Princes St Occupation: Draper ED: 5 Household schedule number: 126 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1901_85 Household Members: Name Age Alexander M Dundas 51 Jane D Dundas 50 Ada Jane Dundas 18 Harold H Dundas 17 Stanley C Dundas 14 Ralph L Dundas 11 Norman W Dundas 10 Mary Clark 18 Parish: Arbroath; ED: 5; Page: 19; Line: 14; Roll: CSSCT1901_85; Year: 1901. Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) >> I have a Jane Hardie Davidson born 2/7/1851 Saint Vigeans, >> Angus. married > 1872 in Arbroath to Alexander Mann Dundas >> born 1853. There children are >> shown as: Baby (-1911) John Davidson (1873-) Ellen Thorborn >> (1877-) >> Isabel Jane (1878-) William (1881-) George (1886-) Annie >> Carnegie (1887-) Norah (1889-) Elizabeth (1891-) Alexander >> (1892-) Could this be confirmed.

> I have a Jane Hardie Davidson born 2/7/1851 Saint Vigeans, > Angus. married > 1872 in Arbroath to Alexander Mann Dundas > born 1853. There children are > shown as: Baby (-1911) John Davidson (1873-) Ellen Thorborn > (1877-) > Isabel Jane (1878-) William (1881-) George (1886-) Annie > Carnegie (1887-) Norah (1889-) Elizabeth (1891-) Alexander > (1892-) Could this be confirmed. You can easily confirm all this yourself by looking up the birth and marriage certificates at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (SP). But read on before doing this. In the 1881 census Alex M Dundas, aged 31, drapery commercial traveller was at Zetland House, St Vigeans with wife Jane H D Dundas, 29 and children John D, 7; Alex M, 6; Edgar R, 2. All were born in St Vigeans. This address seems to be in Princes Street, which is in the part of the town of Arbroath which is in the parish of St Vigeans as opposed to the parish of Arbroath. > I have also found another Alexander Dundas born 1853, wife > unknown, with > the children shown below, (possibly born in or around > Kirriemuir) > John (1874-) Alexander M (1875-) Edgar R Dundas (1879-) Ada > Jane > (1883-) Harold H (1884-) Stanley C (1887-) Ralph L (1890-) > Norman > (1891-) Anymore information this family would be > appreciated. It won't have escaped you that Alexander Dundas in Arbroath/St Vigeans has children matching the first three of the above children. There is an Alexander Dundass, labourer, aged 28, in Kirriemuir in the 1881 census. He is unmarried and living with his widowed father, sawmiller, aged 63; sister Betty, aged 29 ; brother David, tailor, 24; sister Isabella, factory worker, 22; brothers James, 18, apprentice tailor and William, 16, labourer; sister Margaret, 13 and niece Agnes, 8. All born in Kirriemuir. These look like the family of Alexander Dundas and Agnes Malcolm, married in Kirriemuir on 22 September 1850. All of their family were born in Kirriemuir. In your place I would look up both these Alexander Dundases in the 1891 and 1901 census at SP - this will help to sort out which of the children you have listed actually belong to which Alexander. It will also cost you less than looking up all the birth certificates separately. > Jane Hardie Davidson's parents were John Davidson & Margaret > Thomson, > that is the only information I have about them. According to the International Genealogical Index (IGI) at www.familysearch.org Jane was born in St Vigeans on 2 July 1851 and baptised there on 4 July 1851. No siblings are listed. Her parents were married in St Vigeans on 9 September 1850. You should be able to find them in the 1851 census at SP. There are a John Davidson, flax mill mechanic, 62, with wife Margt, 58 living at 14 Colville Place, St Vigeans. This is also in the part of the parish St Vigeans which is in the town of Arbroath. He was born in Arbroath and she in Kelso, Roxburghshire. If this matches the information in the 1851 census, you will know that these are Jane's parents, and you can look for their death on SP. Go for Margaret first because she will be indexed under both her maiden and her married name. The IGI lists Alexander Mann Dundas, son of John Dundas and Mary Mann, born 5 December 1849 in St Vigeans. This exactly matches the Alex M Dundas in the 1881 census. This couple were married in Arbroath on 22 March 1839, and also had Isabel, 1842; Mary Ann, 1844; Marjory Robertson, 1847; James Soutar, 1853; David Duncan, 1857; and John, 1860. You can get definite confirmation of Alexander's parents' names from his marriage certificate, also on SP. By the way, it is always useful to say what your source is for the information you start with, as it helps people to know where to point you to, and also whether, as in this case, there seems to be some ambiguity or doubt about its accuracy. And can you be sure that the baby who died in 1911 was Jane's child? She would have been aged 60 by then. It is more likely to be a grandchild. Hope this helps. Anne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Forfarian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5567.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Drat! For 'death certificate' in the previous message read 'birth certificate' Fingers running away from brain, I fear! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Forfarian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5568.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The IGI at www.familysearch.org lists seven children of David Robbie and Isabel Duncan, who were married on 4 January 1771 David, baptised 1 December 1771 Alexander, baptised 7 February 1773 Andrew, baptised 18 December 1774 John, baptised 19 April 1780 James, baptised 26 May 1782 Jean, baptised 27 February 1785 Charles, baptised 28 March 1787 All events in Cortachy and Clova. HTH Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Forfarian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5567.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and invest in a few credits. Then use them to look the family up in the 1901 census. This will give you a better idea of the birth years of the children, bearing in mind that the census was taken in early April. Use this information to look for the birth certificate of one of the children. Probably best to go for Jane because she has a middle initial. Her death certificate will tell you her mother's surname, and the date and place of her parents' marriage. Then get the marriage certificate, which should tell you the names of all Jane's grandparents. Happy hunting! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: class54450 Surnames: Robbie Duncan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5568/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Child: James Robbie b. abt. May 1782 Cortachy. I assume there were others. Any information on the above family would be appreciated. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: class54450 Surnames: Robertson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5567/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Children: Jane S. b. abt. 1896 Montrose Robert b. abt. 1897 Montrose James b. abt. 1901 Montrose Any information on Jane or the above children would be appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Rhenvell Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5566.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You have a valid point.Do you remember,where they were born? Thanks a tonne for your help. Bob Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.