But Name: David Cree Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Betsy Gender: Male Where born: Leven Fife, Scot Registration Number: 282/4 Registration district: St Andrew Civil parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: 9 Powrie Place Or 2 Forebank Rd Occupation: House Painter ED: 27 Household schedule number: 130 Line: 24 Roll: cssct1881_87 Household Members: Name Age David Cree 46 Betsy Cree 38 Andrew Cree 18 Daniel Cree 11 Agnes Cree 7 John Cree 5 Parish: Dundee; ED: 27; Page: 24; Line: 24; Roll: cssct1881_87; Year: 1881. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I an looking for some help with my wife's CREE family. In the 1881 census, > we have a David CREE and his wife Betsy, along with their four children. > However, in the Address column it says "9 Powrie place or 2 Forebank > Street" > (it looks like the Enumerator did not know where he was). Would anyone be > able to look in the Dundee library at the Street Directory for 1881 for a > CREE at one of those addresses. > > Or if anyone can help in any other way. Unfortunatly I live 450 miles away > :-) > > Colin Speed

Hi Colin Bad luck chap :-( Name: James McGrath Age: 66 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Ann D Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 282/4 Registration district: St Andrew Civil parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: 9 Powrie Place Or 2 Forebank Rd Occupation: Street Sweeper ED: 27 Household schedule number: 149 Line: 9 Roll: cssct1881_87 Household Members: Name Age James McGrath 66 Ann D McGrath 60 Mary McGrath 22 Parish: Dundee; ED: 27; Page: 27; Line: 9; Roll: cssct1881_87; Year: 1881. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I an looking for some help with my wife's CREE family. In the 1881 census, > we have a David CREE and his wife Betsy, along with their four children. > However, in the Address column it says "9 Powrie place or 2 Forebank > Street" > (it looks like the Enumerator did not know where he was). Would anyone be > able to look in the Dundee library at the Street Directory for 1881 for a > CREE at one of those addresses. > > Or if anyone can help in any other way. Unfortunatly I live 450 miles away > :-) > > Colin Speed

Google St view was recently made available in the UK, but so far only in selected places. Dundee however is one of those places. By searching on an address you can see what the area looks like now, and in many cases get a good feel for what it may have looked like over 100 years ago. happy searching Doreen

I an looking for some help with my wife's CREE family. In the 1881 census, we have a David CREE and his wife Betsy, along with their four children. However, in the Address column it says "9 Powrie place or 2 Forebank Street" (it looks like the Enumerator did not know where he was). Would anyone be able to look in the Dundee library at the Street Directory for 1881 for a CREE at one of those addresses. Or if anyone can help in any other way. Unfortunatly I live 450 miles away :-) Colin Speed

have you looked at google maps? Powrie Place runs at right angles with Forebank Road. There are tenements in Dundee where the door is on the corner of a building, so it might not have been clear what the address was. I just realised that the 1881 entry said Forebank St, which is at the opposite end of Forebank Road to Powrie Place. have a look at google street view, and you will be able to get a feel for what the place may have looked like at the time. There are still some old buildings in that area. Doreen In 1891, they were in Kinnaird St. David Cree Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Betsy Gender: Male Where born: Fifeshire, Leven Registration Number: 282/3 Registration district: St Clement Civil parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: 10 Kinnaird St Back Land Occupation: House & Ship Painter ED: 17 Household schedule number: 125 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1891_92 Household Members: Name Age David Cree 54 Betsy Cree 48 Daniel Cree 20 John Cree 15 Agnes Cree 17 > I an looking for some help with my > wife's CREE family. In the 1881 census, > we have a David CREE and his wife Betsy, along with their > four children. > However, in the Address column it says "9 Powrie place or 2 > Forebank Street" > (it looks like the Enumerator did not know where he was). > Would anyone be > able to look in the Dundee library at the Street Directory > for 1881 for a > CREE at one of those addresses. >

Found this yesterday and before I knew it 2 hours had past, very interesting site. The Long, Long Trail The British Army of 1914 - 1918, for Family Historians http://www.1914-1918.net/index.html

> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 07:56:36 -0700 > From: pmckinley1@cox.net > To: UK-NORTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [UK-NORTHEAST] RENNEY > > Hello, > My Father Charles Frederick RENNEY, was born at Bishopwearmouth in 1880 and the family later moved to Stranton, West Hartlepool about 1886. Am interested in anyone related to /or interested in this family. 'There were 10 children born to this family, the parents were Frederick RENNEY , born 1856, and Elizabeth SMITH, daughter of Ralph and Barbara SMITH of 16, Maple Street, Bishopwearmouth. > > Have traced this family back to 1675 and am still looking for many I have missed. > Some of the names connected through marriage are : > > RENNEY - RENNIE - SMITH [2] - DODDS - LAIDLER - DAWSON - > > HILLS - KEENAN - CHEESEBROUGH - MANKIN - DOUGLASS - > > YORK - DOWNS - BOO - HEWITT - WINDROSS - RUTHERFORD - > > GARDENER - THWAITES - DITCHBURN - SHOTTON - ADAMS - > > BURNETT - DRYSDALE - NEWTON - HARLAND - TAYLOR - > > FLANDERS - McKAY - > > All above in County Durham, except CHEESEBROUGH in Middlesbrough,N. Yorks. from 1700 till 1920 and ?? > > RENNIE - COWPER - BRIMS - at Kinnell, Angus, Scotland 1675 to 1750. > > GLOVER - ROSS - Scotland and South Africa 1850 to 1920. > > Regards, Pam [RENNEY] McKinley, Aldershot, Hants. to Arizona. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to UK-NORTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009

You can plough through them all here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/exclusive-the-unseen-photographs-that-throw-new-light-on-the-first-world-war-1688443.html?action=Popup&ino=1 ----- Original Message ----- From: <CEHAUGHEE@aol.com> To: <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [ANGUS] British Army Lists - second site >I am totally confused. I see just the few pictures and it sounds from > others comments that they have seen many more. What am I missing. My > father > was in the Gordon Highlanders and was badly wounded in 1916 but I don't > know where he was. We had one picture of him in uniform and it burned in > a > house fire. I would recognize him if I saw him. I would love to view > all of > the pictures. Kaye > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:08:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > ahalme@shaw.ca writes: > > http://ww1-lost-photos.livejournal.com/ > > **************Dinner Made Easy Newsletter - Simple Meal Ideas for Your > Family. Sign Up Now! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221991367x1201443283/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215225819%3B37274678%3Bs% > 3Fhttp:%2F%2Frecipes.dinnermadeeasy.com%2F%3FESRC%3D622) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

If you are having difficulty finding more of the photos mentioned in the first article, read on. If you go into the site http://ww1-lost-photos.livejournal.com/ look for this sentence, it's the first on the page Unknown Soldiers Unearthed from a barn in rural France, the 270 never-before-seen World War One pictures available exclusively on the Independent Online The part that says "270 never-before-seen ...." is hi-lited, click on that line and it takes you to another page On the page that comes up there are a few spots to click on that indicate there are more photos. Hope this helps you find some interesting photos Related articles Help solve the mysteries of the unknown soldiers Photographs of the unknown soldiers: A selection or  CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE EXCLUSIVE PHOTOGRAPHS

I am totally confused. I see just the few pictures and it sounds from others comments that they have seen many more. What am I missing. My father was in the Gordon Highlanders and was badly wounded in 1916 but I don't know where he was. We had one picture of him in uniform and it burned in a house fire. I would recognize him if I saw him. I would love to view all of the pictures. Kaye In a message dated 5/27/2009 11:08:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ahalme@shaw.ca writes: http://ww1-lost-photos.livejournal.com/ **************Dinner Made Easy Newsletter - Simple Meal Ideas for Your Family. Sign Up Now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221991367x1201443283/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215225819%3B37274678%3Bs% 3Fhttp:%2F%2Frecipes.dinnermadeeasy.com%2F%3FESRC%3D622)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: steelo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5571.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for that Jimmy. I did not have John but had found Margaret, Mary and David's families. Only James remains a mystery. John and Susan were certainly living in an elite area of London when you read thru 1881 census neighbours details. Appreciate your help. Regards Allan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The link for the second portion on World War 1 photographs didn't show in the last post, sorry again, here it is - Arlene http://ww1-lost-photos.livejournal.com/

Sorry the link didn't work, I didn't think it was that long, here is one that will work = Arlene http://tinyurl.com/o9j7ho

My favourite Blog "Anglo-Celtic Connections offers the following on todays issue. A quick look at one issue had a Fife and a Perth regiment listed. Arlene http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=army%20list%20AND%20mediatype% 3Atexts in case the "Internet Archive" link is troublesome cut and past into your browser. TUESDAY, MAY 26, 2009 British army lists free online Looking for an ancestor who was an officer in the British Army? If so he should appear in the Army Lists which where published starting in 1642. The lists give more detail for more senior offices. For Lieutenants and below it's typically just name and promotion dates. You may not find the originals easy to access, but if he served between 1778 and 1892 he may be in the free Army Lists now online through the Internet Archive (direct link to search results.) It has substantial gaps, and there seems to be no way to search for a particular year. Below is a selection that may help you get started. A list of the officers of the army and of the corps of royal marines 1778 A List of the officers of the Army and of the Corps of Royal Marines 1826 Hart's Annual Army List, Militia List, and Imperial Yeomanry List 1840 Hart's annual army list 1845 The New Army List 1845 The East-India Register and Army List 1845 Hart's Annual Army List, Militia List, and Imperial Yeomanry List 1850 Hart's annual army list, militia list, and imperial yeomanry list 1855 THE NEW ARMY LIST AND MILITIA LIST JANUARY 1855 Hart's Annual Army List, Militia List, and Imperial Yeomanry List 1860 Hart's Annual Army List, Militia List, and Imperial Yeomanry List 1865 the new army list militia list and indian civil service list 1880 Hart's Annual Army List, Militia List, and Imperial Yeomanry List 1890 Exclusive: The unseen photographs that throw new light on the First World War The UK Independent publish, for the first time, newly discovered photos showing allied soldiers on their way to the Somme. You can read the full story of how these images came to be taken, recovered and restored here, along with a link to view many of them. Some of the more interesting photos, including one with a Canadian military insignia on one of the buttons, are here. Thanks to M. Diane Rogers for the tip. Diane has a longer posting on her CanadaGenealogy, or, "Jane's your Aunt" site.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maryschacht Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5583.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You might enjoy looking at old photos of Liff on SCRAN http://www.scran.ac.uk. Mine lived at Denmill, which it close to the church. There is also one place in Stoneygroves. Lonfgorgan has some typical cottage photos, with a roof of reeds taken out of the Tay environs. You can search by surnames, village or trade. mary in oregon bruinswood@aol.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Does anyone have up-to-date contact/details for jimlang@melbpc.org.au. This email address is being bounced back as unknown I would like to contact him about his entry on the Angus Surname List: "CRAIK Margaret b:abt 1801 Montrose m:1827 Montrose, George LYALL." Thanks John

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gmuckart1 Surnames: Muckart, Beattie Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/2153.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Sandi, If you give me some more details of your Spence and Irvine relatives buried in Greyfriars, I can either have a look in a book that someone wrote in the 1890's that lists all of the pre- 1855 gravestone inscriptions or go have a look at the gravestone itself, as I live in Perth. I have visited Greyfriars quite a few times. Grant Muckart Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: harrychalmers Surnames: Chalmers Clark Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5583/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Allan William Chalmers was a great great grandfather of mine. The Chalmers family farmed Stoneygroves. My great aunt Annie Chalmers Clark was the last tenant there in our family - she died in the 50s or 60s. She moved from Stoneygroves in her later years to The Cottage in Liff. The last of the Chalmers sons from this branch all emigrated to Australia in the 1920s, Arthur Chalmers and Colin Chalmers, and there are many Chalmers now in NSW and also here in Edinburgh. My mother knows more about this than I do but you can contact me on harrychalmers@hotmail.com Harriet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Some Spares - OPR Burials - Montrose - Rosehill/Churchyard 31st Jan. 1850 JOHN ROBERTSON - age 75 years - Old Age - Buried Rosehill 2nd Feb. 1850 ANN SMITH - age 4 years 7 months - Croup - Rosehill MARY LOW or Widow Grieve - AGE 78 - Old Age - Rosehill. 4th Feb. 1850 JANET MURCHANT? JOHNSTON - age 10 years - Rosehill 5th Feb.1850 THOMAS HAY - age 68 - Dropsy - Churchyard 7th Feb. 1850 ANN YEATS? - age53 - Rosehill. 9th Feb. 1850 MARY ANN McLEAN - age 5 - Rosehill 12th Feb.1850 ANN PETRIE? - age 87 - Old Age - Rosehill MARY MACKENZIE (a lunatic ?) age 45 - Rosehill 13th Feb. 1850 JEAN NICOL - age 78 - Old Age - Churchyard. CATHERINE ALEXANDER -age 6 weeks - Churchyard. 14th Fe. 1850 WILLIAM TEVENDALE? - age 18 months - Rosehill 15th Feb. 1850 HOPE COOK -age 19 - Suffication - Churchyard. 16th Feb. 1850 JAMES BROWN -age 72 - Construction of Bowel - Rosehill 19th Feb.1850 ELIZABETH OGG - age 71 - Old Age - Rosehill ANN KAY - age 74 - Old Age - Rosehill 20th Feb. 1850 Widow ANDREW MEARNS -age 70 - Old Age - Churchyard 24th Feb. 1850 ELIZA MILNE - age 30 - blank - Churchyard. 25th Feb.1850 ANDREW ROBERTSON -blank - blank - Churchyard DAVID AIKENHEAD - age 28 - Inflamation - Rosehill. *** my line JOHN THOMSON - blank - blank - Buried Logie. 26th Feb. 1850 ALEXANDER SHORT - blank - Accident - Buried St. Cyrus 28th Feb. 1850 WILLIAM MILNE - age 7 - Inflamation - Rosehill 6th March 1850 DAVID WARDEN - age 6 weeks - Inflamation - Churchyard AGNES FLEMING - age 54 - Asthma - Buried Kinnaber ? 12th March 1850 ELIZABETH REID - age 43 - Asthma - Buried Rosehill 14th March 1850 MARTHA FARLOW - age 14 - Mortifaction - Rosehill MARY ANN CLARK - age 2years 6 months - Churchyard 15th March 1850 JANET GOUK? - age 66 - Heart - Churchyard

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sandiirvine Surnames: Friet, Freit, Irvine, Beattie Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/2153.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Grant, I don't think we have the same Mary Beattie. I found the death certificate for William the joiner and his parents are listed as Alexander Beattie and Mary Freit (or Friet). I'm looking for a death certificate for one of the other siblings to try to verify this.Please hold fire on the will for now but many thanks for the offer. Incidentally we have Irvine and Spence relatives in Greyfriars in Perth. I haven't found the grave (on one brief pass as we live in Cambridgeshire and are not up very often) but I was told by another relative that it was in area 1 on the south side. best wishes Sandi Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.