HI Lesley, yes I have, thanks for replying. > > I assume that you've seen the Verdant Works page? > > http://www.rrsdiscovery.com/index.php?pageID=133 > > > > Lesley Robertson (in sunny Delft, NL)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sheilarussell3 Surnames: Leighton and Wyllie Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5578.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have read the four posts relating to this . Only recently have I discovered that I am related to this thread and would love to hear from you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Could some one please tell me what what exactly it means when someone is a tenant in westertown in Craig. Is this passed on to the next generation? Thanks Margie

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Margaret Shane wrote: >Hi Irene >I have learned through my research that if a Farquharson married they didn't >seem to register the birth of their children. > I suspect this was quite a common thing. It was theoretically obligatory to register both baptisms and marriages, but there was no system of sanctions in place to enforce it (unlike Civil Registration from 1855). And while there was an obvious advantage to a couple in registering their marriage - it kept the busybodies of the Kirk Session off your back - there was no equivalent advantage in registering a baptism. There are numerous instance in the "New Statistical Account" of ministers complaining that people were failing to register their baptisms, but I know of no instance of a minister claiming that couples were failing to register their marriages. Gavin Bell

Just a little information. There was a William Farquharson who died 19 January 1858 in Kirriemuir, age 89, but the death registration only says widower, and gives no wife's name nor his occupation. Finding him on the 1851 census, he was "formerly farm overseer" age 80, b. Eassie. Probably not yours. On the census he had a niece, a widow age 56, named Margaret Wilson, living with him. The informant on his death was a nephew, James Young. I did a little better on David Watson, cattle dealer, and his wife Jane Bowman. They are named as the parents of a Catherine Rattray who died 21 February 1858 in Kirriemuir. Catherine's husband was Henery Rattray, a linen weaver. She was age 43. On the 1851 census Henry and Catherine Rattray were living in Wellgate. He was age 34, hand loom weaver of brown linen, b. England. Catherine was 36, winder of brown linen yarn, b. Kirriemuir. Their children were David, 14, hand loom weaver of brown linen, and Ann, age 9. Both b. Kirriemuir. It seems that I answered a previous query on this family, but all I noted was an e-mail address. If I can read my own writing, it looks like Rattrayk "at" nornet.on.ca Irene, in Michigan **************Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222865043x1201494942/aol?redir=http:%2F%2F ad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215692145%3B38015538%3Bh)

to Pata41 & Mary in Oregon Thanks for the info, besides having ancestors in the whaling industry in Dundee, I also have several who worked in the Mills. that will be interesting to follow up on. Cheers Heather in chilly Auckland, NZ > 1. Re: Dundee Jute Mills (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) > Is there a Dundee Historical Society or Industrial Heritage Society that > would have information on the names of the Dundee jute mills, where they > were in Dundee and who owned them? The might possibly be a key to finding > employee or other records for those. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Eilis O'Hara **************> > Author: pata41 > > Try the sites below for info. > > http://www.rrsdiscovery.com/index.php?pageID=50 > http://tinyurl.com/m72685 > http://tinyurl.com/na2w2d > ------------------------------ > > there is a book titled "Dundee textile mills" that has maps and photos of > the Dundee mills. You can fine books on the subject on Add-all. > > I don't have the first book at hand, but I bought it in Dundee, and will > go try to find it. > > Mary in Oregon

Hi I'm looking for a James Kiddie born in Kinnoul, Perthshire in 1861. he was the son of George Kiddie and (we think) Mary White. I am posting here as there seem to be a lot of Kiddies in Angus, and someone might connect. Thanks Colin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maryschacht Surnames: Powrie, McPhail Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5612.1.2.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My great grandfather was a hand loom weaver, and tried working in the Dundee Power mills, living in a one room apartment, like the tenement photo of Powrie Place. Like the one the Verdant Works, a working jute mill museum. http://www.rrsdiscovery.com/index.php?pageID=115 Ironically our surname (my maiden name)is Powrie. Robert Powrie couldn't stand the conditions so emigrated to Upper Canada, where he went back to working a hand loom, then a farmer. One of the advantages of leaving a country where he couldn't compete with power mills, to a place where his skills, in beginning settlements, were once again needed. He worked in the harvest on farms while he was in Errol, Perthshire, to make extra money, but that too was affected by moderization...but their was no mechanization, in frontier settlements. Old skills became needed skills. Jute can't be worked on a hand-loom as the fibers are so course, they break looms. It also couldn't be grown in Scotland (it comes from India), like flax for linen. It was imported from the Baltic region, but it was grown in Aberdeenshire after Napolean tried to block the Baltic, during the Napoleanic Wars. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Hi Irene I have learned through my research that if a Farquharson married they didn't seem to register the birth of their children. Alexanders parents were David Watson and Jean Bowman both are buried in the Kirrieumir cemetary. David was a cattle dealer. I know that Janets parents were a William Farquharson and Ann Finlay? William was a weaver. Have you any info on these ones. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: <IPollands@aol.com> To: <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [ANGUS] Watson,Lyall,Finlay > > Sorry, but I don't have anything on either of those Watson families in > Kirriemuir. I haven't been able to find them there on the 1851 census, so > I > wonder if the whole family moved to Dundee by then, since that is where > David > married. > > The only thing I found was on the IGI that Alexander Watson married I. > Farquharson in Kirriemuir in July 1824. I suspect that it was a J. > Farquharson > which was extracted as an I. So they were in Kirriemuir about that time, > just no record of any births/christenings to them. > > Irene > **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy > Steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322979x1201367215/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jun > eExcfooterNO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

> From: higgins.global@xtra.co.nz > To: angus@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:50:40 +1200 > Subject: Re: [ANGUS] ANGUS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 200 > > to Pata41 & Mary in Oregon > Thanks for the info, besides having ancestors in the whaling industry in > Dundee, I also have several who worked in the Mills. that will be > interesting to follow up on. > Cheers > Heather in chilly Auckland, NZ > I assume that you've seen the Verdant Works page? http://www.rrsdiscovery.com/index.php?pageID=133 Lesley Robertson (in sunny Delft, NL) _________________________________________________________________ What can you do with the new Windows Live? Find out http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Eilis_OHara Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5612.1.2.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks very much Mary. Did you have ancestors working in those mills? Regards. Eilis Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Sorry, but I don't have anything on either of those Watson families in Kirriemuir. I haven't been able to find them there on the 1851 census, so I wonder if the whole family moved to Dundee by then, since that is where David married. The only thing I found was on the IGI that Alexander Watson married I. Farquharson in Kirriemuir in July 1824. I suspect that it was a J. Farquharson which was extracted as an I. So they were in Kirriemuir about that time, just no record of any births/christenings to them. Irene **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322979x1201367215/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62)

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pata41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5612.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Try the sites below for info. http://www.rrsdiscovery.com/index.php?pageID=50 http://tinyurl.com/m72685 http://tinyurl.com/na2w2d Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Eilis_OHara Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5612.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is there a Dundee Historical Society or Industrial Heritage Society that would have information on the names of the Dundee jute mills, where they were in Dundee and who owned them? The might possibly be a key to finding employee or other records for those. Thanks in advance for any help. Eilis O'Hara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Irene Davids parents were Alexander Watson and Janet Farquharson Elizabeths parents were David Watson and Isabella Finlay Margie On 14-Jun-09, at 9:07 AM, IPollands@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 6/13/2009 10:22:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > marshane@telus.net writes: > > David Watson b. abt.1826 Kirriemuir d. Oct 10 1894 in Dundee m. > Isabella > Finlay July 11 1864 in Dundee. This was Davids second marriage. His > first was > to Alison Allan. Also looking for connections to John Stewart Lyall > and > Elizabeth Watson who immagrated to Canada in early 1900s. > > ------------------------ > > Margie - > > Do you have the names of the parents for David and/or Elizabeth? I > have a > lot of Watsons from Kirriemuir, but can't, so far, locate a David of > that > age. > > Irene, in Michigan > **************Refinance and lower payments online with Ditech. Visit > www.ditech.com Today! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221879746x1201405835/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F155848685%2Fdirect%2F01%2F > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message