Sorry Wendy Just saw the date on the subject line. Did his parents go to NZ as well? Kindest Regards Kristina Cameron (NZ) -----Original Message----- From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wendy Howard Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2009 6:47 PM To: ANGUS@rootsweb.com Subject: [ANGUS] James Ogilvy SWAN b.1865 Moatmill James Ogilvy SWAN is my great-great grandfather. At his 1896 marriage to Susan Mary Craske WATSON in Maheno, New Zealand, he declared that his parents were William Swan, a farmer, and Catherine Swan, nee WHITTON. He gave his birthplace as Scotland. Family sources tell me that he was born in Moatmill. The only place by this name that I've been able to find is in Angus. I have not been able to find a birth record for James at Scotland's People so far. I've looked at a few possibilities, but have yet to find one that fits these parents. Can anyone help me find him in Scottish records? Kind Regards, Wendy Howard -- Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand http://wendy.howard.googlepages.com/ <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 4193 (20090626) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Hello Wendy Could you please help us with some dates that he was born abt of your ancestor Kindest Regards Kristina Cameron (NZ)

James Ogilvy SWAN is my great-great grandfather. At his 1896 marriage to Susan Mary Craske WATSON in Maheno, New Zealand, he declared that his parents were William Swan, a farmer, and Catherine Swan, nee WHITTON. He gave his birthplace as Scotland. Family sources tell me that he was born in Moatmill. The only place by this name that I've been able to find is in Angus. I have not been able to find a birth record for James at Scotland's People so far. I've looked at a few possibilities, but have yet to find one that fits these parents. Can anyone help me find him in Scottish records? Kind Regards, Wendy Howard -- Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand http://wendy.howard.googlepages.com/ <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/>

Page 264 Names (1818) Surnames Mary Alexr Ramsay, Uppermill and his Spouse Mary Fyfe had a daughter born 14th Jany and baptized 18 do Mary Ramsay Peter Alexr Mitchel, weaver Links and his spouse Jean Gray had a son born 12 Jany and baptized 26 do Peter Mitchel George James Kyd, Parknook and his spouse Ann Rae had a son born 14 Jany and baptized 21st do George Kyd Andrew William Key, Shoemaker Feus and his spouse Agnes Cant had a son born 7 March and baptized 24 do Andrew Key Elizabeth Proctar John Robertson, Flaxdresser Feus and his spouse Elizabeth Oag, had a daughter born 13th March named Elizabeth Proctar Robertson Greece Alexr Strachan, weaver Buddon, and his spouse Margaret Byne had a daughter born 5 April & baptized 9 do Greece Strachan Alexander Willm Nicol, weaver Feus and his spouse Elspit Paton had a son born 10th April named Alexander Nicol Mary Robert Black, and his spouse Jean Glendy had a daughter born 19 May and baptized 24 do Mary Black Isobel John Child, Nethermostown and his spouse Margaret Colville had a daughter born 12 June & baptized 16 do Isobel Child Robt Watson, Feus and his spouse Agnes Hogg had a daughter born (blank) and baptized July 5 (blank) Watson Amelia John Anderson Feus, and his spouse Isobel Maxwell had a daughter born (blank) and baptized 2 August Amelia Anderson Page 265 Names (1818) Surnames James William Mackenzie Schoolmaster of Barrie and his spouse Margaret Millar had a son born 21st July and baptized 11 August, James Mackenzie William John Butchart, Mason Feus, and his spouse Agnes Anderson had a son born 26 Augt and baptized 30th do William Butchart Ann ("Susan" penciled in later) William Walker, wright Feus, and his spouse Isobel Thomson had a daughter born 27 Augt and baptized 10 Septr Ann Walker Ann Andw Nicol, Deyhouse, and his spouse Jean Ferguson had a daughter born 28 Augt and baptized 2nd Septr Ann Nicol William Robert Smart sailor Feus and his spouse Matilda Ramsay had a son born 27 Septr named William Smart Isobel Isobel, natural daughter to Symon Mackenzie and Helen Miggens born (blank) and baptized 4 Octr Mackenzie Ann Thos Young, Cowbyres (sometime of Deyhouse) and his spouse Agnes Russall had a daughter born 11 Octr named Ann Young Ann Peter Miln, weaver Feus and his spouse Elizabeth Rae had a daughter born 29 Novr and baptized 9 Decr Ann Miln Ann Hannah Ann Hannah, daughter of George Baxter, Shoemaker Barry, and of his spouse Agnes Petrie, was born on the 10th day of January 1818*, and baptized on the first day of February, 1818 Baxter *NoteThe date of the birth of Ann H Baxter, is, 10th Jany, 1821 instead of 10th Jany 1818James Proctor, Session Clerk See p 271 where the corrected Entry is made, under 1821 Page 266 Names (1819) Surnames Barbra Robert Strachan weaver Feus and his spouse Isobel Finlay had a daughter born 1st Jany and baptized 6 do Barbra Strachan Mary Thos Gray weaver Cotside and his spouse Janet Gordon had a daughter born Jany 8 and baptized 12th do Mary Gray Peter John Smith, Mason Barrie and his spouse Elizabeth Sturrock had a son born 9th Jany and baptized 15 do Peter Smith Martha Andw Moncur Feus and his spouse Janet Clarke had a daughter born 6th February named Martha Moncur Cathrine Mitchel Alexr Fox weaver Feus and his spouse Cathrine Adam had a daughter born 7 March named Cathrine Mitchel Fox Margaret Thos Collier Esqr Maulesbank and his spouse Isobel Baxter had a daughter born 10th March and baptized 2nd April Margt Collier Ann Willm Fyfe wright Barrie hill and his spouse Isobel Butchart had a daughter born 19 March and baptized 23 do Ann Fyfe William George Watson, Smith Feus and his spouse Jean Shanks had a son born 11 May and baptized 14 do William Watson George Alexr Young Cotside and his spouse Elizabeth White had a son born 22nd June and baptized9 July George Young Robert Alexr Taylor, weaver Links and his spouse Isobel Christie had a son born 26 June named Robert Taylor Elizabeth David Gibb, sailor Feus, and his spouse Ann Gibb had a daughter born 17 July and baptized 23 do Elizabeth Gibb James James Boyle weaver Feus and his spouse Barbra Paton had a son born 18 July and baptized 25 do James Boyle Page 267 Names (1819) Surnames Alexr Cant, Mason Feus and his spouse Ann Boyd had a daughter born 27 July and baptized 29 do Elizabeth Cant Alexr Mitchel, Surgeon Feus and his spouse Cathrine Baxter had a daughter born 10th August named Elizabeth Sedgwick Mitchel David Buick wright Feus and his spouse Margt Petrie had a son born 12 August and baptized 17 do William Brown Buick James Lawson, weaver Barriehill and his spouse Helen Fiulawson had a son born 14 Augt and baptized James 29 August Lawson Alexr Tyrie, weaver Barrie hill and his spouse Agnes Watt had a daughter born and baptized 22 August Janet Tyrie Robt Jaap, Feus and his spouse Isobel Mudie had a daughter born 22 Septr and baptized Agnes Holden 26 Septr Jaap Andw Simpson, weaver Feus, and his spouse Isobel Nave had a son born 24 Decr and baptized 26 do Andrew Simpson Robert Watson Feus and his spouse Agnes Hogg had a son born 2 Decr and baptized 12 do George Watson James Lawson labourer Upper mill and his spouse Margt Smith had a daughter born 10 Decr and baptized 22 Elizabeth Lawson Names (1819) Surnames Susan, natural daughter to David Bell & Agnes Aichton born 30 Novr and baptized 16 December Bell Alexr Strachan weaver Budden and his spouse Margt Byne had a son born 21st Decr and baptized Alexander 29 Decr Strachan James Petrie vintner Feus and his spouse Agnes Lesslie had a son born 30 Decr named James Petrie The twelve entries contained on this and the preceding page are extracted from the Register in the custody of the local Registrar, in terms of the Acts 17 and 18 Victoria cap 80 and 23 and 24 Victoria cap 85 W P Duvatas(?) Registrar General

Hi Adrian There is indeed a wealth of information there I find a good ploy is to search on the County name (if necessary the old and the new) A search for Angus finds (among others) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Angus or Forfarshire The Land and People Descriptive and Historical Vol 4 Dundee OR Memorials of Angus and Mearns, an account, historical, antiquarian, and traditionary; (1885) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Also key words such as *History Scotland* or *Parish Register* (without the *'s) Or a place name such as Dundee finds :- Historical description of the town of Dundee (1836) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Thanks Nivard - I suspect there's all sorts of FH stuff in archive.org if > only we knew what to search on, so any help is welcome. > > Adrian

Thanks Nivard - I suspect there's all sorts of FH stuff in archive.org if only we knew what to search on, so any help is welcome. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Sat 27 June 2009 17:07 To: angus@rootsweb.com Subject: [ANGUS] Scottish Records Society To anyone interested Available at www.archive.org from the Scottish Record Society <<snipped>>

Thank you for all that information. This is greatly appreciated. Thanks for passing it on to everyone on rootsweb. Lorna Edinburgh Lorna Kinnaird (Muat) Family History: Fyfe (Forfar); Muat (Haddington) Childminder in Edinburgh, Scotland - what's for you, won't go by you!

To anyone interested Available at www.archive.org from the Scottish Record Society To view online or download (to download click HTTP on left and select the file suffixed pdf) 1 The Commissariot Record of Edinburgh Register of Testaments Part 1 1514-1600 2 The Commissariot Record of Edinburgh Register of Testaments Part 2 1601-1700 3 The Commissariot Record of Edinburgh Register of Testaments Part 3 1701-1800 4 The Commissariot Record of Inverness Register of Testaments 1630-1800 5 The Commissariot Record of Hamilton and campsie Register of Testaments 1564-1800 7 The Commissariot Record of Glasgow Register of Testaments 1547-1800 8 The Commissariot Record of St Andrews Register of Testaments 1549-1800 9 The Commissariot Record of Argyle Register of Testaments 1674-1800 11 The Commissariot Record of Moray Register of Testaments 1684-1800 12 The Commissariot Record of Lanark Register of Testamants 1595-1800 12 The Commissariot Record of Stirling Register of Testaments 1607-1800 14 Register of Burials in the Chapel Royal or Abbey of Holyroodhouse 1706-1900 15 Register of Interments in the Greyfriars Burying Ground Edinburgh 1658-1700 16 Register of Marriages For the Parish of Edinburgh 1595-1700 18 The Commissariot Record of Lauder Register of Interments 1561-1800 19 Register of Baptisms Chapels at Bairnie & Tillydesk 1763-1801 and Index 20 Index to the Register of Burials in the Churchyard of Restalrig 1728-1854 21 The Commissariot of Argyll Register of Inventories 1693-1702 22 The Commissariot of Edinburgh Consistorial Processes and Decreets 1658-1800 23 The Register of Marriages For the Parish of Edinburgh 1701-1750 25 Protocol Book of Sir Alexander Gaw 1540-1558 26 Parish Register of Durness 1764-1814 27 Protocol Book of Sir William Corbet 1529-1555 28 The Register of Apprentices of the City of Edinburgh 1583-1666 29 The Protocol Book of Gavin Ros, N.P. 1512-1532 30 Scrymgeour Family Estates 1611 31 Protocol Book of Mr Gilbert Grote 1552-1573 32 pt1-2 Parish Registers of Dunfermline 1561-1700 UNMARKED Melrose Parish Registers of Baptisms, marriages, Proclomations of Marriages Session Minutes (1723-1741) and Mortuary Rolls 1642-1820 UNMARKED Parish of Holyroodhouse or Canongate Register of Marriages 1564-1800 35 Monumental Inscriptions in St Cuthberts Churchyard Edinburgh (older portion) 36 Parish Registers of Canisbay (Caithness) 1652-1666 37 Register of Births and Marriages for the Epicopal Congregation of St Andrews 1722-1787 38 Parish Lists of Wigtownshire and Minnigaff 1684 39 Protocol Books of Dominus Thomas Hohnsoun 1528-1578 40 Register of Baptisms, Proclomations, Marriages and Mortcloth Dues Parish of Torphichen 1673-1714 (40 see 52) 40 Register of Marriages of the City of Edinburgh 1751-1800 41 The Register of Marriages and Baptisms in the Parish of Kilbarchan 1649-1772 42 Calendar of Writs preserved by Yester House 1166-1625 43 The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow 1573-1750 44 Protocol Books of james Foulis 1546-1553 and Nicol Thounis 1559-1564 45 Some Family Papers of The Hunters of Hunterstown 46 Roll of Edinburgh Burgesses and Guild Brethren 1406-1700 47 Register of Edinburgh Apprentices 1666-1700 48 Protocol Book of Sir John Cristisone 1518-1551 49 Protocol Book of John Foular 9th March 1500-1 to 18th Sept 1503 50 Protocol Book of Sir Robert Rollok 1534-1552 51 The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow 1752-1846 52 Inventory of Pitfirrane Writs 1230-1794 52 Register of Baptisms, Proclomations, Marriages and Mortcloth Dues Parish of Torphichen 1673-1714 and Protocol Book of Sir William Corbet 1529-15555 (52 see 40) 54 The Binns Papers 1320-1864 54 An Inventory of Lamont Papers 1231-1897 (there are two 54's) 55 Register of the Burgesses of the Burgh of the Canongate 93 Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow 1573-1750 (see 43) (not numbered) Extracts from the Records of The Burgh of Glasgow 1630-1662 Extracts from the Records of The Burgh of Glasgow 1573-1642 Extracts from the Records of The Burgh of Glasgow 1691-1717 There are a couple of duplications as noted above Feel free to pass it on if required Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

many thanks barb in oz On Fri, Jun 26th, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Cowan Alan <ACowan@bcis.co.uk> wrote: > Hi researchers > > > > In yesterday's Glasgow Herald supplement there was a section about > 'Homecoming Scotland 2009'. > > In it there was reference to free 20 units in 'Scotlandspeople'. > > Log in as normal and go to section buy more, scroll down past the > normal > 'select number of units' box and in the voucher box type in > heraldmag. > > You must register by 1pm on Saturday 27th and the credits are valid > for > 90 days. > > > > > > Alan > > > > Disclaimer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This email message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast. > Mimecast delivers a complete managed email solution from a single web > based platform. > For more information please visit www.mimecast.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Thanks so much for the advice about the Scotlands People giving 20 credits. An extra 20 credits has really brightened up my wintery day in Perth, Western Australia.

Thank you so much for that information I was able to get a couple of names I needed Regards Betty Raffaele Cooma NSW Australia

Well done Alan, many thanks for that Iain

Thanks a million for that - I have registered my free 20 credits. Much appreciated. Lorna xx Lorna Kinnaird (Muat) Family History: Fyfe (Forfar); Muat (Haddington) Childminder in Edinburgh, Scotland - what's for you, won't go by you!

Hi Ros Sign into Scotlandspeople At top right click "Need More" Next page scroll down to enter Voucher code Click use voucher code Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Dear Alan, > > thank you for the information about free credits. Every time I try to but > credits, I have trouble finding where to do it. I've just serached again > for > "Buy more" and can't find it. Plesae can you remind me where precisely to > go? Thank you very much. I'm sure it's perfectly obvious - I don't know > why > I forget between times. > Ros Macgregor in Montreal >

Hi researchers In yesterday's Glasgow Herald supplement there was a section about 'Homecoming Scotland 2009'. In it there was reference to free 20 units in 'Scotlandspeople'. Log in as normal and go to section buy more, scroll down past the normal 'select number of units' box and in the voucher box type in heraldmag. You must register by 1pm on Saturday 27th and the credits are valid for 90 days. Alan Disclaimer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast. Mimecast delivers a complete managed email solution from a single web based platform. For more information please visit www.mimecast.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thank you Alan after finally finding my correct password I got my free credits. Kaye In a message dated 6/26/2009 4:14:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ACowan@bcis.co.uk writes: Hi researchers In yesterday's Glasgow Herald supplement there was a section about 'Homecoming Scotland 2009'. In it there was reference to free 20 units in 'Scotlandspeople'. Log in as normal and go to section buy more, scroll down past the normal 'select number of units' box and in the voucher box type in heraldmag. You must register by 1pm on Saturday 27th and the credits are valid for 90 days. Alan Disclaimer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- This email message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast. Mimecast delivers a complete managed email solution from a single web based platform. For more information please visit www.mimecast.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005)

Thanks for the information, Alan.? It was so easy!? Debbie, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: Cowan Alan <ACowan@bcis.co.uk> To: LANARK@rootsweb.com; angus@rootsweb.com; aberdeen@rootsweb.com; sct-fife@rootsweb.com; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com; SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, Jun 26, 2009 4:13 am Subject: [ANGUS] Free Scotlands People Vouchers Hi researchers In yesterday's Glasgow Herald supplement there was a section about 'Homecoming Scotland 2009'. In it there was reference to free 20 units in 'Scotlandspeople'. Log in as normal and go to section buy more, scroll down past the normal 'select number of units' box and in the voucher box type in heraldmag. You must register by 1pm on Saturday 27th and the credits are valid for 90 days. Alan Disclaimer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast. Mimecast delivers a complete managed email solution from a single web based platform. For more information please visit www.mimecast.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes it works, but don't put the dot after heraldmag > Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:13:43 +0100 > From: ACowan@bcis.co.uk > To: LANARK@rootsweb.com; angus@rootsweb.com; aberdeen@rootsweb.com; sct-fife@rootsweb.com; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com; SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Free Scotlands People Vouchers > > Hi researchers > > > > In yesterday's Glasgow Herald supplement there was a section about > 'Homecoming Scotland 2009'. > > In it there was reference to free 20 units in 'Scotlandspeople'. > > Log in as normal and go to section buy more, scroll down past the normal > 'select number of units' box and in the voucher box type in heraldmag. > > You must register by 1pm on Saturday 27th and the credits are valid for > 90 days. > > > > > > Alan > > > > Disclaimer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This email message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast. > Mimecast delivers a complete managed email solution from a single web based platform. > For more information please visit www.mimecast.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

thanks! done! Ros 2009/6/26 Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> > Hi Ros > > Sign into Scotlandspeople > > At top right click "Need More" > > Next page scroll down to enter Voucher code > > Click use voucher code > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > > Dear Alan, > > > > thank you for the information about free credits. Every time I try to but > > credits, I have trouble finding where to do it. I've just serached again > > for > > "Buy more" and can't find it. Plesae can you remind me where precisely to > > go? Thank you very much. I'm sure it's perfectly obvious - I don't know > > why > > I forget between times. > > Ros Macgregor in Montreal > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANGUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. - Martin Luther King Jr.

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