Hi Arlene, I am interested in Morrisons from Kirriemuir as they are a prominent part of my mother's side of the family. However none of those listed come up in my records though William is a common Morrison name. On this basis I had a look at Scotlandspeople to see if there might be a connection. There isn't but see below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene Halme" <ahalme@shaw.ca> To: <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: [ANGUS] Morrison of Kirriemuir 1851 census > Trying to crack a genealogical wall. > > William MORRISON born about 1857 in Kirriemuir married Agnes > McPHERSON born March 1855 in Kirriemuir they were married in > Kirriemuir Jan 3, 1881. Cannot locate a suitable birth record for > William. > > His parents are elusive. He lists his parents as Alexander MORRISON & > Agnes WALLACE on his marriage cert. and his age has been consistent > on census records for birth to be c.1857. On the 1861 Kirriemuir > census Alexander and Agnes have 2 children, William age 4 and Janet > age 8 mos. IGI has Janet Wallace or MORRISON b. Jul 18 1860 > Kirriemuir. William doesn't show up under WALLACE on the IGI. So > seems his parents may never have married so may not be a marriage > cert to check for parents. > > So my search is for ALEXANDER MORRISON born about 1815 may have died > after the 1881 census and before the 1891 census as Agnes Wallace is > by herself on 1891 and 1901 Kirriemuir. Scotlandspeople turned up 2 > possible deaths but both were in Dundee I found two possible deaths in Scotlandspeople but can discount one of them as his parents and age didn't seem to fit. The other might be the Alexander Morrison you are looking for: Alexander Morrison Hand Loom Linen Weaver (Single) South Muir, Kirriemuir Died: December 18 1886 Age 75 Parents: Thomas Morrison (deceased) Jand Morrison (MS Milne) (deceased) Reported by: W Morrison Son and Inmate (not present) Born 1811, slightly earlier than you thought but still close, and single with a son to report his death? Cheers, Bruce D

In a message dated 7/12/2009 9:48:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, personal@dorrit41jbd.bbmax.co.uk writes: The other might be the Alexander Morrison you are looking for: Alexander Morrison Hand Loom Linen Weaver (Single) South Muir, Kirriemuir Died: December 18 1886 Age 75An Parents: Thomas Morrison (deceased) Jand Morrison (MS Milne) (deceased) Reported by: W Morrison Son and Inmate (not present) Born 1811, slightly earlier than you thought but still close, and single with a son to report his death? --------- This would seem to match with the Alexander found living with a brother James on the 1851 census. That James was married to Ann Taylor, and he died 18 April 1862, , age 63 (which does not match the 1851 census age of 40), parents Thomas Morrison and Jane Milne (neither of whom can be found on the 1851 Kirriemuir census). On that 1881 marriage of William Morrison and Agnes McPherson, note that William's parents were shown as Alexander Morrison, hand loom linen weaver and Agnes Wallace, hand loom linen weaver. The fact that Agnes was not shown as Agnes Morrison MS Wallace is an indication that they might not have been married. Alsoi the fact that they showed an occupation for Agnes, which they didn't usually do for a married woman. And on that 1881 census -- Alexander/Agnes -- Agnes is listed under her name as Agnes Wallace and is shown as a boarder, more evidence that they never married. If you decide/agree that the 1886 death is for your Alexander (children often thought their parents were older than they actually were!) let me know, as I do have a little more information on the other children of Thomas Morrison and Jane Milne. Irene, in Michigan **************Summer concert season is here! Find your favorite artists on tour at TourTracker.com. (http://www.tourtracker.com/?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000006)

> William MORRISON born about 1857 > On the 1861 Kirriemuir > census Alexander and Agnes have 2 children, William age 4 If William was aged 4 on the date of the 1861 census, 7 April 1861, and if his age is correct, he would have been born between 7 April 1856 and 6 April 1857, so there is a greater likelihood of him being born in 1856 than in 1857. Do Alexander, Agnes, William and Janet make up a single household? What are Agnes' and William's relationships to Alexander listed as? Or to the head of household if this is not Alexander? Scotland's People does not list a marriage of an Alexander Morrison to Agnes Wallace, and neither does FreeBMD, so it seems that they were not married in Scotland, England or Wales. The IGI listing doesn't list Janet 'Wallace or Morrison'. It just lists Janet Wallace, mother Agnes Wallace, and no father's name. SP also has Janet Wallace born in Kirriemuir in 1860, but no mention of Janet Morrison. This does seem to confirm that Alexander and Agnes did not marry. Have you considered (a) Could William have been born somewhere other than Kirriemuir and (b) Could he have been either Alexander's or Agnes' son by a former liaison, rather than the son of both of them? If so, he could have been registered as almost anything. Or maybe they simply neglected to have his birth registered at all. Where exactly was Janet born? The address might give a clue. I don't know how helpful the Kirriemuir Kirk Session records are, but it might be worth getting them checked to see if they say anything about the birth of either William or Janet which might shed some light. I don't suppose this is very helpful, really. Anne

Hi Arlene Is this your William & Agnes ------------------------------------------------------- 1871 Scotland Census about William Marrison Name: William Marrison Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relationship: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir County: Angus Address: Balbridie Bothy Occupation: Farm Servant ED: 9 Household schedule number: 20 Line: 17 Roll: CSSCT1871_56 Household Members: Name Age Ann Hogg 37 James Alexander 14 James Whyl 24 Charles Fotheringham 17 Alexander Wallace 16 William Marrison 13 ----------------------------------------------------- 1881 Scotland Census about William Morrison Name: William Morrison Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Agnes Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir County: Angus Address: Whamonts Rd Occupation: Linen (Factory Tenter) ED: 12 Household schedule number: 205 Line: 1 Roll: cssct1881_93 Household Members: Name Age William Morrison 24 Agnes Morrison 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Name: Agnes Morrison Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : William Gender: Female Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir County: Angus Address: Whamonts Rd Occupation: Linen Weaver ------------------------------------------------ 1881 Scotland Census about Alexander Morrison Name: Alexander Morrison Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relationship: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir County: Angus ED: 12 Household schedule number: 178 Line: 24 Roll: cssct1881_93 Household Members: Name Age Elisabeth McPherson 58 Alexander McPherson 30 Daniel McPherson 17 Alexander Morrison 2 ---------------------------------------------------- Name: Elisabeth McPherson Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Inverkeilon, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir County: Angus Occupation: Housekeeper --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Alexander McPherson Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Elisabeth Gender: Male Where born: Forfar, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir County: Angus Occupation: Coal & Lime Merchant ------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Daniel McPherson Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Elisabeth Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir County: Angus Occupation: Factory Operative ------------------------------------------------------ 1891 Scotland Census about William Morrison Name: William Morrison Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Agnes Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Kirriemuir County: Angus Address: Duthie's Row Occupation: Power Loom Tenter ED: 11 Household schedule number: 5 Line: 19 Roll: CSSCT1891_101 Household Members: Name Age William Morrison 34 Agnes Morrison 35 Alexander Morrison 12 William Morrison 8 -------------------------------------------------------- Name: Agnes Morrison Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : William Gender: Female Where born: Forfar, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Kirriemuir County: Angus Address: Duthie's Row ------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Alexander Morrison Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relationship: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Agnes Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Kirriemuir County: Angus Address: Duthie's Row Occupation: Scholar --------------------------------------------------------------- Name: William Morrison Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relationship: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Agnes Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Kirriemuir County: Angus Address: Duthie's Row Occupation: Scholar ----------------------------------------- 1901 Scotland Census about William Morrison Name: William Morrison Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Agnes Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Do County: Angus Address: 3 Bank St Occupation: Hotel Keeper ED: 4 Household schedule number: 35 Line: 3 Roll: CSSCT1901_108 Household Members: Name Age William Morrison 43 Agnes Morrison 44 William Morrison Jr. 18 ---------------------------------------------------- Name: Agnes Morrison Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : William Gender: Female Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Do County: Angus Address: 3 Bank St Occupation: Hotel Keeper Wife -------------------------------------------------- Name: William Morrison Jr. Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relationship: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Agnes Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfarshire Registration Number: 299 Registration district: Kirriemuir Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Do County: Angus Address: 3 Bank St Occupation: Clerk Jute Factory ------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene Halme" <ahalme@shaw.ca> To: <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: [ANGUS] Morrison of Kirriemuir 1851 census > Trying to crack a genealogical wall. > > William MORRISON born about 1857 in Kirriemuir married Agnes > McPHERSON born March 1855 in Kirriemuir they were married in > Kirriemuir Jan 3, 1881. Cannot locate a suitable birth record for > William. > > His parents are elusive. He lists his parents as Alexander MORRISON & > Agnes WALLACE on his marriage cert. and his age has been consistent > on census records for birth to be c.1857. On the 1861 Kirriemuir > census Alexander and Agnes have 2 children, William age 4 and Janet > age 8 mos. IGI has Janet Wallace or MORRISON b. Jul 18 1860 > Kirriemuir. William doesn't show up under WALLACE on the IGI. So > seems his parents may never have married so may not be a marriage > cert to check for parents. > > So my search is for ALEXANDER MORRISON born about 1815 may have died > after the 1881 census and before the 1891 census as Agnes Wallace is > by herself on 1891 and 1901 Kirriemuir. Scotlandspeople turned up 2 > possible deaths but both were in Dundee > > I did locate on the 1851 Kirriemuir census an interesting James > MORRISON age 40 wife Ann age 42, dau Helen age 9, dau Ann age 3 and > dau Susan age 5 months and a brother ALEXANDER age 38. > > On the 1881 census an Agnes McIntosh age 9 months is listed as > grandchild living with Alexander MORRISON and Agnes WALLACE ( she is > listed as general servant, housekeeper, boarder on 3 census never as > a wife). On the 1881 Kirriemuir Jessie MORRISON McIntosh age 19 wife > is with William McIntosh age 21 > > Does anyone have any connection with any of the above? Suggestions > welcome. > > Connected families all of Kirriemuir, Malcolm, McPherson, Morrison, > McDonald, Bush. >

Hi Arlene this could be him 1841 1841 Scotland Census about Alexander Morison Name: Alexander Morison Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Gender: Male Where born: Angus, Scotland Civil parish: Kirriemuir County: Angus Address: South Muir Occupation: Linen H L W Parish Number: 299 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jean Mill 67 Catharine Morison 39 Margaret Morison 30 Alexander Morison 27 Helen Fairweather ---------------------------------------------- Name: Jean Mill Age: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1774 Gender: Female Where born: Angus, Scotland Civil parish: Kirriemuir County: Angus Address: South Muir Occupation: Ind Parish Number: 299 ------------------------------------------------------- Name: Catharine Morison Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802 Gender: Female Where born: Angus, Scotland Civil parish: Kirriemuir County: Angus Address: South Muir Occupation: Linen H L W ------------------------------------------------------ Name: Margaret Morison Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Female Where born: Angus, Scotland Civil parish: Kirriemuir County: Angus Address: South Muir Occupation: Linen H L W --------------------------------------------------- Name: Helen Fairweather Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Gender: Female Where born: Angus, Scotland Civil parish: Kirriemuir County: Angus Address: South Muir Occupation: Linen H L W ----------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene Halme" <ahalme@shaw.ca> To: <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: [ANGUS] Morrison of Kirriemuir 1851 census > Trying to crack a genealogical wall. > > William MORRISON born about 1857 in Kirriemuir married Agnes > McPHERSON born March 1855 in Kirriemuir they were married in > Kirriemuir Jan 3, 1881. Cannot locate a suitable birth record for > William. > > His parents are elusive. He lists his parents as Alexander MORRISON & > Agnes WALLACE on his marriage cert. and his age has been consistent > on census records for birth to be c.1857. On the 1861 Kirriemuir > census Alexander and Agnes have 2 children, William age 4 and Janet > age 8 mos. IGI has Janet Wallace or MORRISON b. Jul 18 1860 > Kirriemuir. William doesn't show up under WALLACE on the IGI. So > seems his parents may never have married so may not be a marriage > cert to check for parents. > > So my search is for ALEXANDER MORRISON born about 1815 may have died > after the 1881 census and before the 1891 census as Agnes Wallace is > by herself on 1891 and 1901 Kirriemuir. Scotlandspeople turned up 2 > possible deaths but both were in Dundee > > I did locate on the 1851 Kirriemuir census an interesting James > MORRISON age 40 wife Ann age 42, dau Helen age 9, dau Ann age 3 and > dau Susan age 5 months and a brother ALEXANDER age 38. > > On the 1881 census an Agnes McIntosh age 9 months is listed as > grandchild living with Alexander MORRISON and Agnes WALLACE ( she is > listed as general servant, housekeeper, boarder on 3 census never as > a wife). On the 1881 Kirriemuir Jessie MORRISON McIntosh age 19 wife > is with William McIntosh age 21 > > Does anyone have any connection with any of the above? Suggestions > welcome. > > Connected families all of Kirriemuir, Malcolm, McPherson, Morrison, > McDonald, Bush.

Hi Arlene Found this on a Alexander Morrison Kirriemuir 1851 Scotland Census about Alexander Morrison Name: Alexander Morrison Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relationship: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfar Parish Number: 299 Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Landward District County: Angus Address: Herdhill Occupation: Hand Loom Weaver (brown Linen) ED: 28 Page: 2 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 10 Line: 19 Roll: CSSCT1851_66 Household Members: Name Age James Morrison 40 Ann Morrison 42 Helen Morrison 9 Ann Morrison 3 Jean Morrison 5 Mo Alexander Morrison 38 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Name: James Morrison Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relationship: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfar Parish Number: 299 Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Landward District County: Angus Address: Herdhill Occupation: Hand Loom Weaver (brown Linen) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Ann Morrison Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Relationship: Wife Spouse's Name: James Gender: Female Where born: Glammiss, Forfar Parish Number: 299 Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Landward District County: Angus Address: Herdhill Occupation: Yarn Winder (brown Linen) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Helen Morrison Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfar Parish Number: 299 Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Landward District County: Angus Address: Herdhill Occupation: Scholar ------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Ann Morrison Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Airly, Forfar Parish Number: 299 Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Landward District County: Angus Address: Herdhill Occupation: At Home ------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Jean Morrison Age: 5 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Kirriemuir, Forfar Parish Number: 299 Civil parish: Kirriemuir Town: Landward District County: Angus Address: Herdhill ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene Halme" <ahalme@shaw.ca> To: <angus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: [ANGUS] Morrison of Kirriemuir 1851 census > Trying to crack a genealogical wall. > > William MORRISON born about 1857 in Kirriemuir married Agnes > McPHERSON born March 1855 in Kirriemuir they were married in > Kirriemuir Jan 3, 1881. Cannot locate a suitable birth record for > William. > > His parents are elusive. He lists his parents as Alexander MORRISON & > Agnes WALLACE on his marriage cert. and his age has been consistent > on census records for birth to be c.1857. On the 1861 Kirriemuir > census Alexander and Agnes have 2 children, William age 4 and Janet > age 8 mos. IGI has Janet Wallace or MORRISON b. Jul 18 1860 > Kirriemuir. William doesn't show up under WALLACE on the IGI. So > seems his parents may never have married so may not be a marriage > cert to check for parents. > > So my search is for ALEXANDER MORRISON born about 1815 may have died > after the 1881 census and before the 1891 census as Agnes Wallace is > by herself on 1891 and 1901 Kirriemuir. Scotlandspeople turned up 2 > possible deaths but both were in Dundee > > I did locate on the 1851 Kirriemuir census an interesting James > MORRISON age 40 wife Ann age 42, dau Helen age 9, dau Ann age 3 and > dau Susan age 5 months and a brother ALEXANDER age 38. > > On the 1881 census an Agnes McIntosh age 9 months is listed as > grandchild living with Alexander MORRISON and Agnes WALLACE ( she is > listed as general servant, housekeeper, boarder on 3 census never as > a wife). On the 1881 Kirriemuir Jessie MORRISON McIntosh age 19 wife > is with William McIntosh age 21 > > Does anyone have any connection with any of the above? Suggestions > welcome. > > Connected families all of Kirriemuir, Malcolm, McPherson, Morrison, > McDonald, Bush.

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Trying to crack a genealogical wall. William MORRISON born about 1857 in Kirriemuir married Agnes McPHERSON born March 1855 in Kirriemuir they were married in Kirriemuir Jan 3, 1881. Cannot locate a suitable birth record for William. His parents are elusive. He lists his parents as Alexander MORRISON & Agnes WALLACE on his marriage cert. and his age has been consistent on census records for birth to be c.1857. On the 1861 Kirriemuir census Alexander and Agnes have 2 children, William age 4 and Janet age 8 mos. IGI has Janet Wallace or MORRISON b. Jul 18 1860 Kirriemuir. William doesn't show up under WALLACE on the IGI. So seems his parents may never have married so may not be a marriage cert to check for parents. So my search is for ALEXANDER MORRISON born about 1815 may have died after the 1881 census and before the 1891 census as Agnes Wallace is by herself on 1891 and 1901 Kirriemuir. Scotlandspeople turned up 2 possible deaths but both were in Dundee I did locate on the 1851 Kirriemuir census an interesting James MORRISON age 40 wife Ann age 42, dau Helen age 9, dau Ann age 3 and dau Susan age 5 months and a brother ALEXANDER age 38. On the 1881 census an Agnes McIntosh age 9 months is listed as grandchild living with Alexander MORRISON and Agnes WALLACE ( she is listed as general servant, housekeeper, boarder on 3 census never as a wife). On the 1881 Kirriemuir Jessie MORRISON McIntosh age 19 wife is with William McIntosh age 21 Does anyone have any connection with any of the above? Suggestions welcome. Connected families all of Kirriemuir, Malcolm, McPherson, Morrison, McDonald, Bush.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gbuttars Surnames: Buttar Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5628.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Annie L Buttar was probably Annie Lindsay Buttar, daughter of Alexander Butter & Isabella (Allan). She married Thomas Mollison in 1895. I wonder if your grandfather may have been part of the wider family, perhaps the illegitimate child of a relative. I don't know anything about Annie and Thomas' family, only Annie's forebears. However I'd be interested to hear what you find out. Regards Grant Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Forfarian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5630.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The International Genealogical Index at www.familysearch.org lists six children of James Mitchell and Jane Duncan, all born in Dundee: James, 5 February 1862 John, 14 March 1863 William, 22 February 1865 Alexander, 4 May 1867 Charles Fraser, 22 June 1871 Robert Connor, 12 June 1873 This is presumably the James Mitchell and Jane Duncan who were married in Dundee on 28 June 1861. In the 1881 census the family were at 17 Arklay Street, Dundee. James was a winder in a jute factory, aged 45, born in Dundee. Jane was aged 47, born in Kirriemuir. James, aged 19, was an apprentice mechanic; John, aged 18, an apprentice clerk and William, aged 16, a jute mill worker. Charles, 9 and Robert, 7 were at school. There was another son at school, George, aged 11, born in England. No sign of Alexander, who would have been 13. He may have died; an Alexander Mitchell, aged 0, died in Dundee in 1867 and one aged 9 died there in 1876. If you go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and invest in a few credits, you can view the marriage certificate of James and Jane, which will tell you the full names of both sets of parents. You can also look at other census records, and at birth, marriage and death certificates. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: taches Surnames: Mitchell, Duncan, Hansford Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5630/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm interested in the ancestors of Robert Connor Mitchell. He was born in Dundee on June 12th 1873 to Jane Duncan and James Mitchell. He later moved to Australia, joined the Royal navy and married a girl named Lucy Hansford in Sydney (not sure in which order). No idea how or when he died, if he had a siblings, etc. I'd love to hear from anyone who might have a clue about his family origins, his life, his military record, etc. Thanks! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mervally99 Surnames: Corney Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5629/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello All, I have had a request from a relative to try and find the obituaries/death notices of 2 people that passed away recently. Their names are Clark and Erica Corney and one died on the 6th of June 2009, the other on the 7th of June 2009. They died in Tayport in Fife but the reason I am posting to this list is that I would think that if an obituary/death notice was printed it would be in the Dundee Courier. I have looked at the Courier website but it appears that births, deaths and marriages have not made it onto their website. If any kind soul could look up the Courier for me or have suggestions as to any other publications the obituaries could be in I would be very grateful, Mark Whitton. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ldseb Surnames: Mollison, Buttar, Mitchell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5628/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I am looking for any information about my grandfather, David Mollison, and his family. He was born around 1914 in kirriemuir, and he was adopted, unofficially I believe, as a baby; and it was thought his surname was originally "Mitchell", however I'm not certain. He was brought up, by Annie L. Buttar born in about 1875, and Thomas Mollison who was born in about 1874. I know lots about my grandfather's life, but nothing about his ancestry due to this perplexity, and I would be very grateful in finding out all I can. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

So now we go back to pick up the first book of marriages. Jim Bundy A Register of Marriages in Barrie ? Twelfth day of May Joyen ? who were wanted ? (Page 1) (Month/day) (Year) (Names) Jun 15 1704 David Watt and Margaret Patton July 6 1704 John Young and Jean Robert Jun 26 1705 William Crawfoord and Isobell Air August 7 1705 Henry Air and Hellen Watson November 15 1705 James Amries and Hellen Patton Febry 7 1706 David Low and Agnes Langland at K(?) March 14 1706 John Black and Agnes Moncrife Jun 4 1706 John Kerr and Marat Gibson at Ab(?) Jun 4 1706 David Anderson and Jean Gibson Febry 13 1707 Alexr Mudie and Isobell Kill March 20 1707 Wm Midlton and Isobell Cramond Aprill 24 1707 Wm Adam and Marat Blair July 10 1707 Wm Adam and Elisabath Lamb July 20 1707 James Peter and Elisabath Young Decer 4 1707 Alexr Peter and Ann Gillespie Febry 26 1708 James Gray and Elisabath Brown at Mi(?) July 2 1708 George Neve and Cathrain Menmure August 25 1708 Robert Cobb and Marat Guthrie September 25 1708 John Cristie and Mary Chapland Decer 14 1708 Andrew Ramsay and Barbara Patton Decer 29 1708 John Dobie and Jean Lamb April 24 1709 Wm Black and Anne Petrie Aprill 28 1709 Alexr Fotheringham and Grissal C(?) June 3d 1709 Alexr Gray and Elisabath Fle(?) Decr 27 1709 Alexr Gray and Agnes Crawfird Page 2 (Month/day) (Year) (Names and places) December 14 1710 James Jafferson and Marat Wilson were Married (?)er 20 1710 Henry Balfour and Jean Smith were Marryed att Arbirlot (Oc)tober 15 1711 Mr James Robetson Minister at Kinell was Marryed to Grissal Lamb daughter to Docter Andrew Lamb of Posckelly (No)vember 6 1711 Henry Ramsay and Marat Smart were Married (No)vember 8 1711 Andrew Gray and Magdalene Rankin were Marryed Decr 6 1711 Alexr Morum and Isobel Milne were Marryed Decr 11 1711 John Adam and Isobell Black were Marryed Febry 21 1712 Robert Forrester and Isobell Bruce were Marryed March 13 1712 James Milne and Grissell Robert were Marryed April 10 1712 Wm Preslie and Elspet Henderson were Marryed Jun 5 1712 James Guild and Anna Watson were Marryed Jun 19 1712 Robert Brown and Agnes Peter were Marryed at panbride Jun 26 1712 David Millar and Janet Clark were Marryed July 1 1712 David Morum and Jean Patton were Marryed July 10 1712 Wm Shepherd and Kathrain Low were Marryed Octr 30 1712 Wm Watson and Jean Amries were Marryed Novr 27 1712 John Fox and Lucretia Binnie were Marryed Decr 19 1712 John Erskin and Margaret Henderson Marryed Decr 23 1712 James Storier and Elisabath Allan Marryed April 16 1713 John Kerr and Elspet Caithnes were Marryed Jun 11 1713 John Cristall and Magdalen Ramsay were Marryed July 7 1713 William Sturrock and Grizall Mathew were Married Novr 10 1713 Patrick Binnie and Agnes Guild were Married Novr 27 1713 George Peter and Catharine Black were Married April 15 1714 James Rae and Margarat Dick were Married July 15 1714 Andrew Cramond and Magdalen Amries Marryed August 12 1714 James Milne and Jean Wilson were Marryed Decr 16 1714 William Guild and Janet Crichton were Marryed Decr 22 1714 Andrew Milne and Elisabeth Gibson were Marryed Decr 30 1714 George Lindsay and Anna Paton were Marryed March 31 1715 James Henderson and Agnes Fairweather marryd March 21 1716 Wm Shepherd and Agnes Nicoll were Marryed Jun 19 1716 James Spence and Margarat Cramond Marryed August 14 1716 John Forrister and Isobel Jack were Marryed October 19 1716 Mr James Robertson Minr at Kinell were Marryed with Anna Henderson

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maryschacht Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5625.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Longforgan is a wonderful hamlet, and I bought a small book about it's history and church. I also have the Monument Inscription book for that area. SCRAN (http://www.scran.ac.uk/search/) has lovely old photos of Longforgan. Mary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gbell152 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5625.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The other possibility is that he came from the parish of Longforgan. This is reckoned to belong to Perthshire, but abuts on the Angus parishes of Kettins and Liff & Benvie. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Forfarian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5625.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You are starting out with a problem because the parish of Forgan is not in the County of Angus. It is in the County of Fife, lying on the north coast of the county just opposite Dundee. So if your James Wilkie came from Forgan, he wasn't from Angus; and if he was from Angus, he wasn't from Forgan! I suggest you try the National Archives of Scotland as the first port of call: www.nas.gov.uk HTH Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.