I used it to try to add to what I have on my Forfar weavers. I didn't get any more than I already had and paid dearly for a very odd 'map' of Newmonthill Cemetery. Very disappointing. Pat "What is this life, if full of care, We have no time to stand and stare ..." W. H. Davies, Leisure -----Original Message----- From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DOREEN CUTHBERT Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:24 PM To: angus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANGUS] deceased on line > > And the commercial website charges one pound fifty to view > each item. > I've used it where I already know the date of death, to try and find out who else is buried in the same grave. Sometimes there can be quite a few, and it can help to find other family members. It also means that if you are able to visit the cemetary, you know better where to look when you get there. - obviously not possible for most people Doreen Cuthbert Fife

Margaret said > > Angus Council has 112,000 records on line. And the commercial website charges one pound fifty to view each item. The free index gives only a name, date of burial and date of death, with nothing to indicate the age or marital status of the deceased, and so diffult to identify an entry as the one you seek (unless you already know the death date). I tested it out with one of my Angus surnames, and of 18 "hits", only one was easily identified in my 10,000+ name family database. It could be expensive to find a specific individual from the index data. Gordon.

> > And the commercial website charges one pound fifty to view > each item. > I've used it where I already know the date of death, to try and find out who else is buried in the same grave. Sometimes there can be quite a few, and it can help to find other family members. It also means that if you are able to visit the cemetary, you know better where to look when you get there. - obviously not possible for most people Doreen Cuthbert Fife

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barkai1 Surnames: esterman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/833.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: my grandfathers name was abraham esterman,he came from lithuania his wifes name was julia maiden name wolfe-barnett.he died in 1914 aged 46 in london. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi all There was quite some interest in the Fromelle project previously so thought it worth posting the link to subscribe to the e mail updates, they make interesting reading See http://www.cwgc.org/fromelles/ Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

4. Help! Vista and Scotlandspeople images Hello Irene I was in exactly the same boat, my family gave me a new laptop- I had said I don't want vista- but I got it! When I first tried to alter/cut images I had a real problem. I store all or most of my images in the folder for the relevant surname.I suppose I should put them in My Pictures but I don't- I want everything together for that particular family. I too was cursing Office Picture Manager until I learnt how to use it. I go to the folder I want- click on it then find the image I need. Click on that and bring it up- I am now in Windows photo gallery. Then go I to OPEN and click on the title Office Picture Manager. I am at the moment looking at a page from a will downloaded from Scotland's People. I have gone through the same procedure- found the folder for the surname, clicked on that, found the will I wanted- clicked on a page which has come up in Windows photo gallery, gone along the top of the screen which has the various icons for file, fix, info, print, email, make a movie, burn, print and OPEN. I clicked on OPEN and it brings up 4 options- Internet explorer-no, Personal Ancestral File or PAF- no, Paint- no or Microsoft Office Picture Manager -yes - click on that and my image is there again ready to do with it as I want. Now the other way to find you image is to click on the Microsoft image at the bottom left hand corner of your screen. That brings up a display of programs available on your computer on the left and on the right what is available on your computer Documents, Pictures, computer Network, connect to and RECENT Items - Click on that if your down load from Scotland's people is recent it may be there. Now just above the Microsoft logo at the bottom left hand corner of your screen when you click to bring up all of this is a little sign saying SEARCH. What did you name your image from Scotland's People? type it into this space- your computer will search for you and bring up- hopefully the document you want or maybe several with similar words in their title. Hope this is of help. One of my gripes with Office Picture Manager is that you cannot turn an image just by a small degree- its 90 degrees or nothing, sometimes a picture just needs a little tweak. Mary Anne (an aging blonde in Melbourne)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vikandgra Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1427.1454.1504.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Geneve, I was most surprised to get a contact after all these years. I haven't been able to further my research on my Mitchell family since my last post 6 April 2001. If you would like to contact me offline remove the underscores_ from my e-mail. g_a_b_y@iinet.net.au regards Graham Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

http://www.deceasedonline.com Angus Council has 112,000 records on line

Reply to Mitchell researchers. This family has been a puzzle I can not solve for a long time. I am trying to establish the parentage of my ggggrandmother, Marjory (May) Mitchell (b. 1763?) who married John Farquharson (b. abt 1758) in 1791/92. I have tried to put together a possible family with Patrick as her father and among the many children who fit into the time frame of 16 children he may have fathered, there is his (possible) second born Alexander b.1742 who may have married Margaret Milne and had a son Alex. in 1784. Among the other children of this Patrick I had listed son George b. 1751, m. to May Cable with ch. Ann 1791, Margaret 1793, Muldrum 1799, William 1804, James 1807 and Charles 1811. Geneve, I am curious about your work with the father of George as Alex. Have you been able to document this, because I will need to restructure my info if this is proven. It may help my research or it may mean that I need to rethink my theory. Irene in Michigan was helpful in the past, but I still have not been able to move backward beyond the 1791/92 marriage of May and John and the birth of their first son David c. on Dec 25, 1792. Any information on the Mitchells or Farquharsons of Forfar or Kirriemuir is always of interest in my research. Marian in NC USA **************Dell Deals: Treat yourself to a sweet deal on popular laptops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223100673x1201716527/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D7)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ovington1_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5638.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Virginia As your people do not as yet have the connection to Scotland and the immigration or ships lists would be in New Zealand I would suggest posting to an New Zealand board and or list first. If you go to http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Select mailing lists or message boards from the top bar menu you can search for relevant list/boards for your enquiry. Although you may get help on the Angus board you are more likely to get help on a NZ one, then armed with the Scots origins of your people you could repost here or on a location board/list relevant to the enquiry NJO Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: virginiacrawford167 Surnames: Ruddy, Green, Crawford Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5639/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello! These two are my great grandparents and I'd really like to know more about them. This is what I know so far: Jack Albert Ruddy (b.1886, d. Rotorua, New Zealand) Alice Olivia Green (d. Rotorua, New Zealand) They had a daughter (my grandmother), Julia Mavis Ruddy (b.1915 Auckland, New Zealand; d.2002 Rotorua, New Zealand) I'm from the line of descendants who became the Crawford family of Rotorua, New Zealand. I wondered if anyone could help with further information about the families, ship names, emigration to New Zealand etc. I'm just starting out, so any advice would be gratefully received. Thanks, Virginia Crawford Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: virginiacrawford167 Surnames: White, Crawford Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5638/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello! This lady was my great grandmother and I'd really like to know more about her. This is what I know so far: Sarah Park White (b.1878 Canterbury, New Zealand; d.1967 Auckland, New Zealand; daughter of Charles White) She married Charles Stuart Crawford in 1904, Featherstone, New Zealand. I'm from the line of descendants who became the Crawford family of Rotorua, New Zealand. I wondered if anyone could help with further information about her family, ship names, emigration to New Zealand etc. I'm just starting out, so any advice would be gratefully received. Thanks, Virginia Crawford Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: virginiacrawford167 Surnames: Heath, Townsend, Caulfield Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5637/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello! These two are my great grandparents and I'd really like to know more about them. This is what I know so far: John Amos Heath (b.1858? Castlemaine, Australia; d.1929 New Zealand; son of John Heath and Elizabeth Caulfield) Annie Townsend (b.1870? Australia?) I'm from the line of descendants who became the Heath family of Rotorua, New Zealand. I wondered if anyone could help with further information about the families, ship names, emigration to Australia/New Zealand etc. I'm just starting out, so any advice would be gratefully received. Thanks, Virginia Crawford Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: virginiacrawford167 Surnames: Thompson, Dines, Heath Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5636/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello! These two were my great grandparents and I'd like to know more about them. This is what I've got so far: Albert George Thompson (b.1879, Canterbury, New Zealand, son of William Thompson) Lydia Agnes Dines (b.1883, daughter of Joseph Dines) I'm from the line of descendants who became the Heath family of Rotorua, New Zealand. I wondered if anyone could help with further information about the families, ship names, emigration to New Zealand etc. I'm just starting out, so any advice would be gratefully received. Thanks, Virginia Crawford Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: virginiacrawford167 Surnames: Crawford, Fife, Lowdoun Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5635/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello! I'm a direct descendant of these two chaps and I'd love to know more about them. I've just started researching my family history and I get as far back as George Crawford c.1749, Lanark, Scotland, but I really want to delve deeper. George married Bethia Fife, daughter of Adam Fife and Ann Lowdoun. Information about that side of the family would be good too. I'm from the branch of the family that emigrated to New Zealand. Any help would be gratefully received. Thanks, Virginia Crawford Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: virginiacrawford167 Surnames: Low, Tweedale, Crawford Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/2749.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello! I'm descended from Margaret Tweedale and James Lamb too. Rosina Jane Low was my great-great grandmother (she married Charles Freer Crawford), so I'm from the branch of the family that went to New Zealand. I've seen the other posts in this line and thought the one from Kay Gordon was absolutely fantastic. I wondered if anyone had any advice for me in tracing my history, particularly in Scotland, as both the Lows and the Crawfords seem to have come from the same area. I'm new to this, so any tips would be very welcome. Thanks, Virginia Crawford Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Irene, I suggest you go into Scotlandspeople and download the free programme they recommend for opening their images. Regards Alex.

Hi Irene It sounds like a setting within Vista to me Sorry I can't help specifically with that as have managed to avoid Vista so far (no doubt have that dubious pleasure to come some day) But a solution that may solve your problem is a free download of Irfanview Its a very useful image program, it allows easy recropping, flipping, change to negative etc I have not found anything it won't open http://www.irfanview.com/ Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Please help an old lady! > > I can't complain about my new computer because it was a gift from my son. > But it has Vista on it and I can't seem to open my files of certificates > that I have previously downloaded from Scotlands People, including a new > one > from today. Fortunately I had no trouble having them transferred from > the > old computer, but if I can't open them....... > > I always used MS Picture and Fax Viewer and had absolutely no problems. > > I understand Vista does not have that program. > > I find the file I want, click on it and have the option of which program > to > open it with. I think I've tried every program with no luck. But when I > click on Office Picture Manager it has a misc. selection of about a dozen > previous certificate files--but I can't seem to add the one I want. And I > tried, as a test, to print out one of those that did appear and it filled > the page but cut off a lot along the edges. And it was very slow, as if > it > were printing out a quality picture. > > Any simple solutions? I am not computer smart, only know enough to do my > genealogy searches. And my generous son lives elsewhere and won't be > able > to open my mail until he gets home after work. Meanwhile I'm tearing my > hair out!!! > > Irene, in Michigan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ovington1_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1427.1454.1504.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again Ancestry have transcripts of all Scots census 1841 to 1901, no images Scotlands people have transcript and images but pay per view so the best thing to do is use Ancestry to try and determine the right family then buy the image from scotlandspeople, the transcript for what I think is your faily follows Name: Alex Mitchell Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782 Gender: Male Where born: Angus, Scotland Civil parish: Forfar County: Angus Address: South Side Of Glammiss Road Occupation: Farmer Parish Number: 288 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alex Mitchell 59 Mrs Mitchell 42 Ann Mitchell 17 James Mitchell 15 William Mitchell 11 Margt Mitchell 3 David Mitchell 2 Mrs Young 42 Jean Jamie 43 Givrell Stewart 60 Marjory Hunter 50 Margt Alexander 14 Mrs Armond 70 John Armond 41 Jas Boath 39 Helen Boath 43 John Herr 18 Parish: Forfar; ED: 8; Page: 17; Line: 380; Roll CSSCT1841_43-0340; Year: 1841. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kozmobates Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1427.1454.1504.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: thanks. I can't tell if this is my Alexander. The birth year is right according to some records and the death year is close. Is the 1841 census available online? Does it show Alexander's wife or any children? My Alexander had children as late as 1842 though my records are questionable cause he would have been 60 years old. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.