This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gbell152 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5892/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I apologise for posting this message here, but other routes seem to be blocked. Postings on this Message Board are normally copied to the Rootsweb ANGUS Mailing List, and replies via links on that List are added to threads on the ANGUS Message Board. But there is currently a problem with posting directly to the ANGUS Mailing List - messages are bounced with an "unknown address error" message. And attempts to report this to the "Listowner" are similarly bounced. I am posting this message here in hopes that it will reach the Listowner. Gavin Bell Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marymac34 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5886.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Going by marriage certificate Alexander was 23 when married so his birth should be around 1835. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marymac34 Surnames: Crerar Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5886.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have tried attached the marriage certificate of Alexander. SP no: 282/01 0121 1st June 1858 in Burgh. Dundee. You are probably right with the spelling as it hard to read. Not sure if file is attached, my email address is [email protected] Thankyou Mary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Good to have you back Jim, hope you went very well in your certificate Betty Raffaele -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Bundy Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 1:37 PM To: Rootsweb Angus Subject: Spam:********, [ANGUS] Barry Angus parish register, note 105 X-SpamDetect-Info: ------------- Start ASpam results --------------- X-SpamDetect-Info: This message may be spam. This message BODY has been altered to show you the spam information X-SpamDetect: ********: 8.5 sd=8.5 [367]99%13.1(69,234) [212]87%5.6(!46,60) [66]85%4.5(X-Verify-SMTP presen) [129]44%-0.0(from_return_nomatch) [27]46%-0.0(X-LangGuess:English) [sig=3] [nnot=0,nis=1,1.0] X-SpamDetect-Info: ------------- End ASpam results ----------------- Hi Listers, It's great to be back on the lists, as my school year just ended at the University of Washington with the 1 year Certificate in Genealogy and Family History program. I had to drop out of list participation, although I did read a note here and there. My project for the year involved my poor Bundys of Bedfordshire and the Old English Poor Law, which I have some understanding of now. I'd like to compare that with the experience of the poor in Scotland at some point. Mine didn't do too badly in a small rural parish in England, but I'm certainly aware of those who had a much worse time of it. Anyway, it's been a full year for this 62 year old college student. :) Jim Bundy Page 59 Brought over from ye former 550/19/4 Aprile 4th Lect Rom: 1st 2d Text as before Coll 0/8/6 After Devine Service in the fornoon there was Intimate A Accomonendatory act of Synod in favour of some poor Widows and Orphans belonging to the fisher Men of Gerne Den who were cast away at Sea, Collection to be made next Lords Day 12th Lect Rom 2d 1st Text I Corinth 27th Coll for the Widows & c above spd 3/19/4 Ordinary Coll 1/4/0 18th One Sermon Text as befor Coll 0/8/0 25th Lect Rom 2d 12th Text as before Coll 0/17/6 May 2d Lect Rom 2d 17th Text as before Coll 0/15/0 For a Mortcloth 0/13/4 9th No Sermon the Mnr being indisposed >From Rob Norrie in lien of Consignation Moe 0/12/0 16th Lect Rom 3d 1st Text as before Coll 0/14/4 Rob Norrie and Marg Graham procld pro 1mo In Seat Rent preceeding whole 1735 11/17/6 23d Lect Rom 3d 9th Text as befor Coll 0/19/0 The forsd proclaimed pro 2do 30th Lect Rom 3d 23d Text as befor Coll 0/14/8 Forsd Persons procled pro 3teo & alt June 6th Lect Rom 4th 1st Text as befor Coll 1/1/10 13th Lect Rom 4th 9th Text Hebr 2d 3d Coll 0/13/4 20th Lect Rom 4th 16th Text as befor Coll 0/13/4 27th Lect Rom 5th 1st Text as befor Coll 0/14/4 July 4th Lect Rom 5th 12th Text as befor Coll 0/19/8 11th Lect Rom 6th 1st Text as befor Coll 0/17/6 18th Lect Rom 6th 8th Text as befor Coll 0/18/0 25th No Sermon, the Minister oficiating at Monifieth at the Sacrt Augt 1st Lect Rom 6th 14th Text as befor Coll 0/17/10 David Johnston in this Parochone and Marg Craford in Monifeith Parochone procld pro 8th No Sermon the Minr going to assist at the Sacrt at Mains 15th Lect Rom 7th 1st Text as befor Coll 0/19/0 The forsd Prsons procld pro 2do 22 Lect Rom 7th 7th Text as befor Coll 0/16/8 The forsd Persons procld pro 3teo & alt Summe totall 582/14/0 Page 60 Brought over 582/14/0 Aug 29th Lect Rom 7th 15th Text as befor Coll 0/15/10 For ye Mortcloth to Marg Storrier in Parish of Panbryde her Corps 1/0/0 7ber 5th Lect Rom 8th 1st Text Gen 23d 2d Coll 0/16/10 12th Lect Rom 8th 9th Text as before Coll 0/18/2 Intimate after Devine Service in the fornoon that the first Sabbath of October was appointd for Celebrating the Sacrt here 19th Lect Rom 8th 17th Text as before Coll 0/18/8 Ja Rankin in the Paroch of Monefeith and Isabel Milne in this parish procld pro 1mo >From Jas Rankin in Lieu of Consignation Moe 0/12/0 26th No Lect Two Sermons Text as befor Coll 1/2/4 The forsd Persons procld pro 2do This Day Eliz Young appeared on ye Pillay Lie Regrts Place 30th Being Fast Day preached in the fornoon Text the Revd Mr Crookeshanks Mnr of the Gospell at Arbroath Text Psal 32d 2d Then Mr Will Dall Jun Text Zach 12th 10th In the afternoon preached ye Rvd Mr Purdorg Mnd of the Gospell at Guthrie Text Jer 3d 25th 8ber 2d Being Preparation Day preached 1st the Rvd Mr Moon Mnd of the Gospell at Kirk Den Text Jo 17th 24th Then ye Rvd Mr Traill Mns of the Gospell at Panbryde Text II Jams 1st 5th 3d Being Sacrament Sabbath preached in the fornoon ye Rvd Mr Dall Mnr of the Gospell in this place Text Gen 35th 3d In the afternoon preached ye Rvd Mr Aullardine Mnr of the Gospel at Monifeith Text Isai 63d 8th 4th being Preparation Day preached First Mr Auston Mnr of the Gospell at Arbirlot Text Psal 149th 2d Then the Rvd Mr Kerr Mnr of the Gospel at ye Mains Text I Thess 4th 17th In all at ye Sacrament Coll 19/0/8 Page 61 October 10th Lect Rom 8th 23d Text Deut 5th 28th Coll 0/19/2 Rankin & Milne procld 2do 17th Lect Rom 9th 1st Text as befor Coll 0/17/6 The forsd Persons procld pro 3to & Ult 24th Lect Rom 9th 6th Text as before Coll 1/0/0 For the Mortcloth to Barb Thoms Corps 0/13/4 John Burns & Mary Petrie procld pro 1mo 31st Lect Rom 9th 14th Text as before Coll For the Propagation of Christian Knowledge Coll 2/10/0 Ordinary 0/10/6 Burns & Petrie procld pro 2do November 7th Lect Rom 9th 24th Text II Cor 6th 1st Coll 0/19/0\the forsd Persons pro 3to & Ults 14th Lect Rom 10th 1st Text as befor Coll 0/14/4 21st Lect Rom 10th 11th Text as befor Coll 0/18/0 28th Lect Rom 11th 1st Text as befor Coll 0/10/6 December 5th No Sermon the Mnr being att Ed 19th No Sermon the Mnr being Detained at Ed by the badness of ye Weather 21st for the Mortcloath to Isabell Youngs Corpse 0/13/4 For Ditto to Barbara Spankies Corpse 0/13/4 For Ditto to Helen Templemans Corps 0/13/4 23d For Ditto to Will Storners Corpse 0/13/4 26th Lect Rom 11th 17th Text as before Coll 0/19/0 Summe totall 621/17/0 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dauvitmac Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5886.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Not sure if you have the correct spelling for Alexander's mother. More likely to be Walker. Never came across a Halker spelling in Scotland If that is the case, I have a marriage record in Meigle 1833. Don't see any record of an Alexander birth to john and Susan in my files on the Crerar family, on this computer, but can check some old disks if you think there may be a connection. Awrabest Davie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Listers, It's great to be back on the lists, as my school year just ended at the University of Washington with the 1 year Certificate in Genealogy and Family History program. I had to drop out of list participation, although I did read a note here and there. My project for the year involved my poor Bundys of Bedfordshire and the Old English Poor Law, which I have some understanding of now. I'd like to compare that with the experience of the poor in Scotland at some point. Mine didn't do too badly in a small rural parish in England, but I'm certainly aware of those who had a much worse time of it. Anyway, it's been a full year for this 62 year old college student. :) Jim Bundy Page 59 Brought over from ye former 550/19/4 Aprile 4th Lect Rom: 1st 2d Text as before Coll 0/8/6 After Devine Service in the fornoon there was Intimate A Accomonendatory act of Synod in favour of some poor Widows and Orphans belonging to the fisher Men of Gerne Den who were cast away at Sea, Collection to be made next Lords Day 12th Lect Rom 2d 1st Text I Corinth 27th Coll for the Widows & c above spd 3/19/4 Ordinary Coll 1/4/0 18th One Sermon Text as befor Coll 0/8/0 25th Lect Rom 2d 12th Text as before Coll 0/17/6 May 2d Lect Rom 2d 17th Text as before Coll 0/15/0 For a Mortcloth 0/13/4 9th No Sermon the Mnr being indisposed >From Rob Norrie in lien of Consignation Moe 0/12/0 16th Lect Rom 3d 1st Text as before Coll 0/14/4 Rob Norrie and Marg Graham procld pro 1mo In Seat Rent preceeding whole 1735 11/17/6 23d Lect Rom 3d 9th Text as befor Coll 0/19/0 The forsd proclaimed pro 2do 30th Lect Rom 3d 23d Text as befor Coll 0/14/8 Forsd Persons procled pro 3teo & alt June 6th Lect Rom 4th 1st Text as befor Coll 1/1/10 13th Lect Rom 4th 9th Text Hebr 2d 3d Coll 0/13/4 20th Lect Rom 4th 16th Text as befor Coll 0/13/4 27th Lect Rom 5th 1st Text as befor Coll 0/14/4 July 4th Lect Rom 5th 12th Text as befor Coll 0/19/8 11th Lect Rom 6th 1st Text as befor Coll 0/17/6 18th Lect Rom 6th 8th Text as befor Coll 0/18/0 25th No Sermon, the Minister oficiating at Monifieth at the Sacrt Augt 1st Lect Rom 6th 14th Text as befor Coll 0/17/10 David Johnston in this Parochone and Marg Craford in Monifeith Parochone procld pro 8th No Sermon the Minr going to assist at the Sacrt at Mains 15th Lect Rom 7th 1st Text as befor Coll 0/19/0 The forsd Prsons procld pro 2do 22 Lect Rom 7th 7th Text as befor Coll 0/16/8 The forsd Persons procld pro 3teo & alt Summe totall 582/14/0 Page 60 Brought over 582/14/0 Aug 29th Lect Rom 7th 15th Text as befor Coll 0/15/10 For ye Mortcloth to Marg Storrier in Parish of Panbryde her Corps 1/0/0 7ber 5th Lect Rom 8th 1st Text Gen 23d 2d Coll 0/16/10 12th Lect Rom 8th 9th Text as before Coll 0/18/2 Intimate after Devine Service in the fornoon that the first Sabbath of October was appointd for Celebrating the Sacrt here 19th Lect Rom 8th 17th Text as before Coll 0/18/8 Ja Rankin in the Paroch of Monefeith and Isabel Milne in this parish procld pro 1mo >From Jas Rankin in Lieu of Consignation Moe 0/12/0 26th No Lect Two Sermons Text as befor Coll 1/2/4 The forsd Persons procld pro 2do This Day Eliz Young appeared on ye Pillay Lie Regrts Place 30th Being Fast Day preached in the fornoon Text the Revd Mr Crookeshanks Mnr of the Gospell at Arbroath Text Psal 32d 2d Then Mr Will Dall Jun Text Zach 12th 10th In the afternoon preached ye Rvd Mr Purdorg Mnd of the Gospell at Guthrie Text Jer 3d 25th 8ber 2d Being Preparation Day preached 1st the Rvd Mr Moon Mnd of the Gospell at Kirk Den Text Jo 17th 24th Then ye Rvd Mr Traill Mns of the Gospell at Panbryde Text II Jams 1st 5th 3d Being Sacrament Sabbath preached in the fornoon ye Rvd Mr Dall Mnr of the Gospell in this place Text Gen 35th 3d In the afternoon preached ye Rvd Mr Aullardine Mnr of the Gospel at Monifeith Text Isai 63d 8th 4th being Preparation Day preached First Mr Auston Mnr of the Gospell at Arbirlot Text Psal 149th 2d Then the Rvd Mr Kerr Mnr of the Gospel at ye Mains Text I Thess 4th 17th In all at ye Sacrament Coll 19/0/8 Page 61 October 10th Lect Rom 8th 23d Text Deut 5th 28th Coll 0/19/2 Rankin & Milne procld 2do 17th Lect Rom 9th 1st Text as befor Coll 0/17/6 The forsd Persons procld pro 3to & Ult 24th Lect Rom 9th 6th Text as before Coll 1/0/0 For the Mortcloth to Barb Thoms Corps 0/13/4 John Burns & Mary Petrie procld pro 1mo 31st Lect Rom 9th 14th Text as before Coll For the Propagation of Christian Knowledge Coll 2/10/0 Ordinary 0/10/6 Burns & Petrie procld pro 2do November 7th Lect Rom 9th 24th Text II Cor 6th 1st Coll 0/19/0\the forsd Persons pro 3to & Ults 14th Lect Rom 10th 1st Text as befor Coll 0/14/4 21st Lect Rom 10th 11th Text as befor Coll 0/18/0 28th Lect Rom 11th 1st Text as befor Coll 0/10/6 December 5th No Sermon the Mnr being att Ed 19th No Sermon the Mnr being Detained at Ed by the badness of ye Weather 21st for the Mortcloath to Isabell Youngs Corpse 0/13/4 For Ditto to Barbara Spankies Corpse 0/13/4 For Ditto to Helen Templemans Corps 0/13/4 23d For Ditto to Will Storners Corpse 0/13/4 26th Lect Rom 11th 17th Text as before Coll 0/19/0 Summe totall 621/17/0

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DonGillies61 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5890.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tim, Here's Betsy's death details from the District of St Andrew, Dundee. The address she died at was her home address Name : Betsy Young Age : 37 Marital Status : Married to Robert Young (jute mill worker) Date of Death : 5th August 1902 Place of Death : 36 Arbroath Road, Dundee Cause of Death and Duration if Disease: Typhoid fever (20 days) Name & Profession of Father : Archibald Coull (fisherman) deceased Name & Maiden Surname of Mother : Mary Coull ms Noble deceased Informant : Robert Young (widower) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DonGillies61 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5890.1.1.3.1.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Gordon, It's not a transcription I'm looking at - it's the document itself, and whilst some if it is badly written, the age is perfectly clear. Which just leaves her lying about her age. Now would a woman do that ? ....... ! Here's the main info from the death certificate : Name : Betsy Young Age : 37 Marital Status : Married to Robert Young (jute mill worker) Date of Death : 5th August 1902 Place of Death : 36 Arbroath Road, Dundee Cause of Death and Duration if Disease: Typhoid fever (20 days) Name & Profession of Father : Archibald Coull (fisherman) deceased Name & Maiden Surname of Mother : Mary Coull ms Noble deceased Informant : Robert Young (widower) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GordonPertJohnson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5891.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Charles Coull married to Mary Mearns: Charles was born 1801/1804, according to available evidence. He died 16 May 1885 in Ferryden. Mary Mearns was born in Ferryden and baptised 13 Oct 1805. She died 9th July 1878 in Ferryden. Parents were David Mearns and Margaret Findlay. Charles Coull's parents were Robert Coull and Margaret Anderson. Gordon. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GordonPertJohnson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5890.1.1.3.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I agree that wrong parents can appear on any certificate, but more usually on death certificates (as the person in question is not around to say "Hey, that's not right!"). The informant for paupers or persons in some kind of institution is often the head of the institution, who has no record of the deceased's parents, and probably little interest. Such errors in marriage certificates are rare, though, and often where the spouse has lost contact with one or both parents at an early age. The curious case of the 17 age must be down to either badly-written numbers, misreading of the certificate (Ancestry has many misreadings), or trying to pretend one is much younger than the truth.... Still, it adds extra interest to the detective story that is genealogy. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JimEaton44 Surnames: Coull/Mearns Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5891/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am interested in the Coull connections. I have a Mary Mearns b.1811 married to Charles Coull b.1806, they had a daughter Margaret Coull b.1834 who married Robert Eaton b.1835 - my tree. Does the above Mary Mearns link with Betsy Coull by any chance?. I have a number of Coulls on my tree but I cannot link any to the current discussion. Jim Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deerwatcher Surnames: SMITH Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/1984.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: jjairburst Please respond to my 10 June 2011 post. We could have a load of data to exchange. deerwatcher Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Forfarian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/690.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not saying it isn't David W and Elizabeth Ogilvy. Only that there were lots of Wilkies already in Tannadice. I don't think the Disruption really has anything to do with the absence of records. Records of deaths/burials before 1855 are very patchy at the best of times, so finding one is a bonus rather than not finding one being an omission. The Tannadice parish register only has a few deaths in it - 1722-23, and nothing much later. Certainly no systematic attempt to record burials in the first half of the 19th century. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rickinork Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/690.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Anne, thanks. I must admit, I was following on from the family 'legend' about an Ogilvy connection which led to the David Wilkie/Elizabeth Ogilvy line which from what you say is likely to be a dead end. On another train of thought, I can't trace any record of John Wilkie's death and I was wondering whether the disruption in the Kirk in the 1840s might explain the lack of records? Richard Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The WILKIE researchers may be interested in this link to nine WILKIEs connected to MASTERTON family members. http://www.themastertons.org/genealogy_tng/search.php?mylastname=wilkie&myfirstname=&mybool=AND&offset=0&search=Search The main Dundee connection is David WILKIE married to Elizabeth NEIL who had a daughter Ann born in late 1854 or first half of 1855. She married William MASTERTON in 1874 but died 7 years later at the age of 26, leaving at least two children. Gordon Masterton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DonGillies61 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5890.1.1.3.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wrong parents on marriage certificates are not at all rare Gordon, especially if a child was raised by their grandparents. My own grandfathers is a prime example of this. However, all things considered, I agree with you - it has to be the Betsy born in 1860. Why her marriage certificate gives her age as 17 instead of 31 will probably remain a mystery. I'll give you her death details tomorrow. Don Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Forfarian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/690.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Richard It's not necessary to look to Cortachy/Clova/Kirriemuir etc for Wilkies in Tannadice, because there was no shortage of home-grown ones. Scotland's People lists 150 baptisms of Wilkies in Tannadice, and today I found the families of three of the brothers of my great-great-great-grandmother Elizabeth Wilkie, who is one of those 150 Tannadice Wilkies. There were three other brothers who survived to adulthood and were involved in erecting the family gravestone in Tannadice kirkyard, but I have yet to trace any of their families, if indeed they had any. The name of John W and Isabella Rattray's elder son points to John's father's name being James. The tradition is First son after father's father Second son after mother's father Third son after father My lines are short on Jameses of an age to be the father of John W husband of Isabella Rattray, however. There are two in the IGI, one in 1798 and one in 1799; I suspect either that one is a figment of someone's imagination or that the 1798 one died in early infancy. I think just about every Scottish family had an Alexander, James, John and William, so these names are effectively useless in tracing family. I'm just working through the 150 Tannadice Wilkies to see if they shed any light on anything. I'm still interested to know what information Al has that suggests John W husband of Isabella Rattray was from Clova. This would be very useful in helping to dispel some of the gloom! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rickinork Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/690.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the post. The trouble is that there seem to be 2 (at least) separate lines of Wilkies with the same first names around Cortachy and Tannadice and it's easy to get confused as I did. The stumbling block is that the John Wilkie husband of Isabella Rattray died young and certainly somewhere about 1844 and that rules out the direct link with the David Wilkie/Margaret Nicoll line. However, it's a bit odd that the elder son was named James when John might have been expected (the younger was Thomas doubtless after Isabella Wilkie's father Thomas Rattray). As I posted, I'm trying out a family memory of an Ogilvy connection and there is certainly record of a marriage between a David Wilkie and Elizabeth Ogilvy in 1806 in Cortachy. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GordonPertJohnson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/5890.1.1.3.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The mother's name is Betsy Murrie (or Murray). George Pert's full name is: George Ferrier Knowels Pert (b. 15 Feb 1832 to David Pert and Isabel Keith. George and Betsy married 29 Dec 1855, Courthill, Lunan, Angus. Betsy Murrie was born 11 Dec 1835, Tibbermore, Perthshire, to George Murrie and Euphemia Paton. I have a note that Isabella Keith Pert married James Green, but I didn't have a date for that marriage. I don't have an SP credit account, as I have a colleague who looks up in Edinburgh anything I need copies of, and I pay her. That way she can query anything that is unclear or seems wrong. Gordon. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Forfarian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ans.general/690.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Al, what is your evidence to say that John Wilkie, husband of Isabella Rattray, was from Clova? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.