Marilyn Arnold wrote: >Can someone point me in the direction of how I might learn more about buying fishing rights on the Tay? My Powries were said to have (historically) been salmon fishers on the Tay ... > At the present time "salmon fishing on the Tay" almost certainly refers to sport fishing with rod and line, and you can find out someting about it by appropriate Googling.. But if your ancestors gave their occupation as "salmon fisher" (or, in older sources, possibly "lax fisher") then they were more likely to have been employed by the owners of the rights to catch fish by net in the estuary and the tidal reaches of the river. I don't know what "fishings" there were anciently on the Tay, but the fishings on the Rivers Dee and Don figure regularly in the records of the Town of Aberdeen, and this may give some pointers to how things were organised on the Tay. There were half a dozen named fishing stations on the lower 2 miles of the River Dee, while on the River Don there appear to have been both netting rights and "cruives", a kind of fish-trap. These were valuable rights, whose sale and purchase regularly appear in the Town's "Notarial Protocoll Books" alongside transfers of land and houses. They were also mentioned specifically in the Town's "Stent Roll" (tax returns), the total taxes collected from the owners of the fishings in 1669 being equivalent to an annual turnover of £35,000 on land-based trading - a very large amount for the time. Gavin Bell

Would one of the wonderful and knowledgable folks on this list be able to steer me towards learning more about the Temperance Party/movement in Dundee? Specifically, I'd welcome information on: a.. how/where to get more information? b.. membership? How to learn who were members of this party? c.. what/who/what groups caused this movement to be started? d.. was this affiliated with any particular church? e.. was placing a gravestone of a member commonplace or would this indicate a more senior/noted elder member of the Party? A distant cousin has indicated that one of our family was a member of this party and that his gravestone was placed by this organization in his honor. Thank you! Marilyn Arnold DC

Can someone point me in the direction of how I might learn more about buying fishing rights on the Tay? My Powries were said to have (historically) been salmon fishers on the Tay. I'm specifically interested in: a.. where I'd learn more about salmon fishing on the Tay/in Dundee/this area of Scotland (was it seasonal? If so what seasons? what territories might they have explored/trolled, ports used, etc.) b.. how would fishing rights be bought/sold? c.. where would such fishing rights be recorded? d.. are fishing rights like land rights in terms of ownership? e.. what entity(ies) might have these records and/or more information? While my John Powrie (1833-1919) worked in the jute mills (tenter jute; heating engineer; other); his death certificate indicates his father John Powrie (b. 1814, Errol) was a "salmon fisher." (Although in all census records is shown to be in the weaving business). Thank you! Marilyn Arnold

Hi all It was announced some time ago that findmypast would be releasing the census for Scotland sometime this year Well they have this morning released the 1841 & 1851 for Scotland Before you get to excited, I must say there are a couple of major problems (well more than that actually) First they have released a *transcript only* no images, so you are in a worse position than you are with Ancestrys transcript (for example you can't search across all years with worthwhile search terms on findmypast) There is a message on each result which states the image is only available on scotlandspeople The transcript is no better than Ancestry as far as I can see, a birthplace for one of mine in 1851 is transcribed as "Lismahavow" (should be Lesmahagow) So my guess is it was done by people not conversant with Scotlands geography Added to all that (if that were not enough) they have added the Scots census to the same search as the other census, ie you search for a John BIGGS you get every John BIGGS in England, Wales & Scotland The only way you can search just Scotland is in each census year, so much swapping back and forth I took out a years subscription to findmypast mainly on the back of the announcement they would have the census for Scotland I could have saved my money Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

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Good morning Nivard, I was getting round to a reply, but first of all recapitulating on what has gone before. I think perhaps my reply to Jenny, as below, basically covers my story. The possible relationship with Caird was, in retrospect a false trail. I might have simply said - here are the circumstances - a brickwall - how do I get round it.? However, all has not been wasted, and to begin with, I am fascinated to learn the results of your research on the Spalding'Caird connection. I am about to look at your earlier advice and, after a two year layoff (other matters have taken up my attention) I plan to start researching again, and looking first at your suggestions. Thanks for your help. We'll meet again! Alistair ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [ANGUS] no mail > Hi again Alistair > > Forgive me if you are in the process of replying but so far I am still > unsure just what is your > brick wall > > If you can tell us what it is you are trying to achieve we may be able to > advise better > > I did some preliminary searches for your SPALDING & CAIRD lines but have > been waiting for you to > post exactly what it was you were seeking > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Hi Jenny, >> Thanks for your advice. Some routes have already been tackled. First. I >> have, some time ago worked backwards from Mary Caird, and failed to >> establish a link with the "big "Caird family. This was very much a side >> issue mainly because the name Caird popped up so often in Spalding >> middle >> names. I am still mystified, but the search has been abandoned. The main >> purpose of my query was to find a "painless" way to break down a >> brickwall. >> I had posed the question before with no results, but thought I would give >> it >> one more try. My rather lengthy background introduction was intended to >> cover any gaps in the narrative, and anticipate questions. >> However, I am now convinced that there is no back door to the situation >> of >> silence. >> Again thanks for your interest >> Alistair > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again Alistair Forgive me if you are in the process of replying but so far I am still unsure just what is your brick wall If you can tell us what it is you are trying to achieve we may be able to advise better I did some preliminary searches for your SPALDING & CAIRD lines but have been waiting for you to post exactly what it was you were seeking Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Jenny, > Thanks for your advice. Some routes have already been tackled. First. I > have, some time ago worked backwards from Mary Caird, and failed to > establish a link with the "big "Caird family. This was very much a side > issue mainly because the name Caird popped up so often in Spalding middle > names. I am still mystified, but the search has been abandoned. The main > purpose of my query was to find a "painless" way to break down a brickwall. > I had posed the question before with no results, but thought I would give it > one more try. My rather lengthy background introduction was intended to > cover any gaps in the narrative, and anticipate questions. > However, I am now convinced that there is no back door to the situation of > silence. > Again thanks for your interest > Alistair

Hi Jenny, Thanks for your advice. Some routes have already been tackled. First. I have, some time ago worked backwards from Mary Caird, and failed to establish a link with the "big "Caird family. This was very much a side issue mainly because the name Caird popped up so often in Spalding middle names. I am still mystified, but the search has been abandoned. The main purpose of my query was to find a "painless" way to break down a brickwall. I had posed the question before with no results, but thought I would give it one more try. My rather lengthy background introduction was intended to cover any gaps in the narrative, and anticipate questions. However, I am now convinced that there is no back door to the situation of silence. Again thanks for your interest Alistair ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Blain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [ANGUS] no mail > Hi Alistair, > I want to echo in part what Nivard has said here. You can't get the > people in Monifieth and Broughty Ferry to participate in your research > if they don't want to, or if they've had second thoughts. You seem to > want to demonstrate a link to James Caird, but that probably isn't a > very useful way to go. > > Have you tried to work backward (not forward) from Mary Caird? Do you > know who her parents were? (Are they on the marriage record - they > probably will be if you have that.) Interesting things may emerge from > looking at this. > > Jenny > > On 29/09/2011 15:00, Alistair Macdonald wrote: > Quite apart from the missing data, my request was (is) >> to find a route to breakdown, or circumvent this brickwall. This is one >> of >> two such walls, but the other, more important from a line continuation >> point >> of view, has produced a firm "No" The e Spalding search would appear to >> offer the most likely result if only I could find the way in, or round. >> Alistair >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Alistair, I want to echo in part what Nivard has said here. You can't get the people in Monifieth and Broughty Ferry to participate in your research if they don't want to, or if they've had second thoughts. You seem to want to demonstrate a link to James Caird, but that probably isn't a very useful way to go. Have you tried to work backward (not forward) from Mary Caird? Do you know who her parents were? (Are they on the marriage record - they probably will be if you have that.) Interesting things may emerge from looking at this. Jenny On 29/09/2011 15:00, Alistair Macdonald wrote: Quite apart from the missing data, my request was (is) > to find a route to breakdown, or circumvent this brickwall. This is one of > two such walls, but the other, more important from a line continuation point > of view, has produced a firm "No" The e Spalding search would appear to > offer the most likely result if only I could find the way in, or round. > Alistair >

Hi Alistair I confess I am still unsure exactly what it is you are trying to achieve Your last line is on the button, your story is not so easy to follow as perhaps you had intended, you say you have a brick wall but its not clear (to me at least) what your brick wall is If you are attempting to get the present day SPALDINGs to speak to you , I would give it up now as a lost cause and concentrate on your research Or are you trying to link the Mary CAIRD b1835 to the more illustrious ones? Or are you trying to go back from the Mary CAIRD b1835? It may help if you redo your post in bullet point form , ie what are you trying to achieve and then what do you have so far Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > My maternal line is Spalding. I have traced a branch from a marriage of John > Alexander Spalding b 1828 in Monikie, to Mary Caird b 1835 in Dundee. The > marriage took place in 1857. At this point I should add that I have failed > to find a connection of Mary Caird with James Key Caird, the Dundee > benefactor born Dundee 1837. He was also the prime funder to Shackleton's

Hi Nivard, Thanks for your encouragement. Emails now appear to be flowing freely, particularly those emanating from you. Encouraged by your obvious fount of knowledge, I venture to copy a request posted some weeks ago which produced no replies. Quite apart from the missing data, my request was (is) to find a route to breakdown, or circumvent this brickwall. This is one of two such walls, but the other, more important from a line continuation point of view, has produced a firm "No" The e Spalding search would appear to offer the most likely result if only I could find the way in, or round. Alistair COPY I will try to explain my brickwall problem in broad strokes, and be prepared to elaborate if there appears to be a solution available. My maternal line is Spalding. I have traced a branch from a marriage of John Alexander Spalding b 1828 in Monikie, to Mary Caird b 1835 in Dundee. The marriage took place in 1857. At this point I should add that I have failed to find a connection of Mary Caird with James Key Caird, the Dundee benefactor born Dundee 1837. He was also the prime funder to Shackleton's expedition to the South Pole. The significance of this will emerge as I trace the following Spalding line which has ended up as a brickwall. The family line exists and in part resident today in the Broughty Ferry/Monifieth area. I have learned, from a source in Canada that James Caird Spalding b 1920 d 2003 has a family of two sons, and two daughters. At least one of his sons with a son resident in Dundee. I have made contact with him and received an enthusiastic response, requesting more details of my requirements. For reasons which can be imagined, there was a sudden silence. Letters to one son of James Caird Spalding went unanswered. I have no information on the whereabouts of the two daughters. Ten Spalding families in the Broughty/Monifieth area have been contacted with no success, although replies offering assistance were received. My distant relative in Canada has tried, by telephone to persuade the widow of James Caird Spalding to co-operate in my search, but information has been refused. I am seeking a way to break this brickwall without antagonising the existing Spalding members who appear to be anti-genealogy. The Caird connection (if any) has been intriguing, in that in successive Spalding generations, the name Caird has emerged as middle name five times. Even if there is no connection, the family appear to think there is. I don't think this story is as clear as I would have hoped, but any suggestions on how to find a way round this barrier of silence would be appreciated. Alistair Macdonald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [ANGUS] no mail > Hi again > > Nothing has changed regarding the lists of late > > Thats not to say you may have inadvertantly pressed the wrong button > somewhere along the line but > suspect not > > My advice would be to still check the archives to satisfy yourself you > have not missed any > > Whilst you are there I would also suggest trying your names / places of > interest in the upper search > box > > There are over 30,000 different lists and you never know which if any, one > of your potential unknown > relatives may have posted to > > The search will check all archives across all lists at the same time > > Generally a good exercise to do periodically , especially when the lists > are slow perhaps :-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Thanks Nivard for the advice. However I've looked at all possible >> self-imposed blockages, but wonder that having received in answer to my >> question three immediate replies, my "line" must be open, just a little >> bit >> unpopulated. >> The encouraging bit is the immediacy of the replies. Would you agree that >> things are now normal if a bit haphazard? If not I will follow your >> advice. >> Alistair. >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

One more snippet An online tree on Ancestry suggests William SYMON senior was born 1781 Fettercairn Kincardinshire - died 1852 Montrose, Catherine b1785 Montrose - died 1858 Montrose Father of William b1781 is given as Daniel/Donald SYMON wife Rebecca PETRIE It may be worthwhile making contact with the tree owner on Ancestry Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Marriage > WILLIAM SYMON Spouse: CATHARINE WOOD Marriage: 09 SEP 1804 Montrose, Angus, Scotland > M113122 1633 0102662 Film 6903014 Film M113122 1658 - 1819 0102662 Film 6903014 Film > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

You beat me to it Anne Who do you think you are came on and have watched an interesting episode with Richard Madeley Based mostly in Canada and the US it was quite a whistle stop trip back to the Puritans I have posted a follow up to my last to Bill Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >From the IGI >> >> WILLIAM SYMON >> Birth: 21 JUN 1809 Montrose, Angus, Scotland >> Father: WILLIAM SYMON >> Mother: CATHARINE WOOD >> C113125 1697 - 1820 0993496 Film 6903013 Film >> >> Some siblings > > <snipped> > > As this is from the IGI, you need to be aware that the IGI is neither 100% comprehensive nor 100% > accurate. It is an INDEX to original sources, and you should make a point of tracking down and > checking the original documents. > > You can view the originals online at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk at modest cost. Alternatively, if > there is a Latter Day Saints church near you with a genealogy library, you can order the microfilm > to look at there. This is slower, and less convenient, but cheaper, and has the advantage that you > can read other entries and get a feel for the place and people. > > Anne

Hi again A follow up on my previous posts I don't know if you are aware of familysearch which is where the events I posted come from The International Genealogical Index (more usually known as the IGI) is as its name suggests an index of baptisms and marriages in the main compiled by the Mormon Church There are two major elements to the IGI, firstly submissions by Patrons of the Church of the Latter Day Saints these may be based on fact but may be based on assumptions or calculations so by their very nature need careful consideration and much more research before being accepted The other element is from extractions from Parish Registers, these are more reliable but still need confirming with the originals, not least because there may well be more details on the original not captured in the transcription In the case of your events the originals can be consulted online at scotlandspeople, a pay per view site http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ As Anne rightly says you should consult the original to check the transcription is accurate and also to see if there are any other details, such as residence But be aware that records for the period are generally sparse in detail so any clues are vital Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Marriage > WILLIAM SYMON Spouse: CATHARINE WOOD Marriage: 09 SEP 1804 Montrose, Angus, Scotland > M113122 1633 0102662 Film 6903014 Film M113122 1658 - 1819 0102662 Film 6903014 Film > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

> >From the IGI > > WILLIAM SYMON > Birth: 21 JUN 1809 Montrose, Angus, Scotland > Father: WILLIAM SYMON > Mother: CATHARINE WOOD > C113125 1697 - 1820 0993496 Film 6903013 Film > > Some siblings <snipped> As this is from the IGI, you need to be aware that the IGI is neither 100% comprehensive nor 100% accurate. It is an INDEX to original sources, and you should make a point of tracking down and checking the original documents. You can view the originals online at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk at modest cost. Alternatively, if there is a Latter Day Saints church near you with a genealogy library, you can order the microfilm to look at there. This is slower, and less convenient, but cheaper, and has the advantage that you can read other entries and get a feel for the place and people. Anne

Marriage WILLIAM SYMON Spouse: CATHARINE WOOD Marriage: 09 SEP 1804 Montrose, Angus, Scotland M113122 1633 0102662 Film 6903014 Film M113122 1658 - 1819 0102662 Film 6903014 Film Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Bill > > From the IGI > > WILLIAM SYMON > Birth: 21 JUN 1809 Montrose, Angus, Scotland > Father: WILLIAM SYMON > Mother: CATHARINE WOOD > C113125 1697 - 1820 0993496 Film 6903013 Film

Hi Bill >From the IGI WILLIAM SYMON Birth: 21 JUN 1809 Montrose, Angus, Scotland Father: WILLIAM SYMON Mother: CATHARINE WOOD C113125 1697 - 1820 0993496 Film 6903013 Film Some siblings Jean Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 15 Jul 1811 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1811 Angu,? Scotland parents: William Symon,? Catharine Wood Rebecca Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 07 Jul 1819 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1819 Angu,? Scotland parents: Wm. Symon,? Catharine Wood Adam Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 08 Sep 1817 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1817 Angu,? Scotland parents: Wm. Symon,? Catharine Wood John Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 24 Dec 1804 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1804 Angu,? Scotland parents: William Symon,? Catharine Wood James Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 10 Jan 1813 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1813 Angu,? Scotland parents: William Symon,? Catharine Wood David Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 31 Dec 1806 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1806 Angu,? Scotland parents: William Symon,? Catharine Wood Alexander Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 27 Mar 1815 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1815 Angu,? Scotland parents: Willm. Symon,? Cathrane Wood More anon if I find anything Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS please note it is always best to continue *onlist* which has the benefit of others opinions / knowledge and being archived for you and future researchers > Dear Alistair & Nivard, > I read your comments, and just wanted to let you know that A.) I am a > subscriber; B.) I have read all of the correspondence for several years now: > C.) Have enjoyed your dialog, and knowledge; D.) I am a NOVICE at chasing > Ghosts; & C.) I reside in the USA and am pretty clumsy and manipulating > resources beyond Ancestry so haven't been successful at gathering data from > the UK. I sit on the sidelines and read everything to learn. So reading your > comments, I sense that the two of you need a project because you are bored! > Just so you don't stop helping folks who come to this site & if you want to > give someone in the Colonies a boost, how about seeing how far you can get > chasing my GGG Grandfather, William Symon, born Angus, 1810,Montrose. Father > was the shoemaker on High St. I have traced William, a ships carpenter, to > Liverpool, where he married, and then in the early 1850's emigrated to > Ontario where he died in 1899. I have found a listing of his parents and his > siblings but I have never been able to trace his parents and his siblings... > So, if you take on a challenge and stress the limits of the Angus resources > maybe you could chase Williams parents and sibling? I would appreciate any > help that I can get!!! And it might fill up some of the time till folks get > their fall chores done and come back inside to their computers when the > weather turns wintery! > If you have questions, my email is [email protected] > Thank You For Any Consideration, > Bill Banbury

Nigard, Thank you very much... I had missed this completely... -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ANGUS] William SYMON b1809 Montrose for Bill One more snippet An online tree on Ancestry suggests William SYMON senior was born 1781 Fettercairn Kincardinshire - died 1852 Montrose, Catherine b1785 Montrose - died 1858 Montrose Father of William b1781 is given as Daniel/Donald SYMON wife Rebecca PETRIE It may be worthwhile making contact with the tree owner on Ancestry Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Marriage > WILLIAM SYMON Spouse: CATHARINE WOOD Marriage: 09 SEP 1804 Montrose, Angus, Scotland > M113122 1633 0102662 Film 6903014 Film M113122 1658 - 1819 0102662 Film 6903014 Film > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nivard, That's them!!! I had read that the parents, William and Catharine had a shop on High St... and I think that Catharine's parents had several properties that were leased. I had read a reference that they had taken tenants to court for non payment of rent. Later they were cared for by a son and daughter. That son had been at one of the banks in Montrose and his sister was his housekeeper. It seems neither married. The son, while at the bank bout a large property on the north side of town and had a staff of about 15. And I had found a reference that indicated that William had been born NNW of Montrose but I could not find the family. And then my luck really changes....My computer dumped the hard drive and I lost the documents that I had discovered. So... I am adlibbing from memory and hadn't gotten back to recreating it... IF there is anyone who is researching this family, I have records of William, b 1809, and my lineage through Liverpool to Canada to the USA and Chicago. I have not gotten much else done on the family but would appreciate any assistance. Thank you very much for jumping in and posting this.... And you can keep going as long as you are bored and needing exercise to keep your skills honed! AND, again, I have enjoyed the dialog on the Angus site when you and Alistair start sharing!!! The historical stuff is great.... Wish there was more "stuff" on Montrose! Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 2:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ANGUS] William SYMON b1809 Montrose for Bill Hi Bill >From the IGI WILLIAM SYMON Birth: 21 JUN 1809 Montrose, Angus, Scotland Father: WILLIAM SYMON Mother: CATHARINE WOOD C113125 1697 - 1820 0993496 Film 6903013 Film Some siblings Jean Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 15 Jul 1811 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1811 Angu,? Scotland parents: William Symon,? Catharine Wood Rebecca Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 07 Jul 1819 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1819 Angu,? Scotland parents: Wm. Symon,? Catharine Wood Adam Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 08 Sep 1817 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1817 Angu,? Scotland parents: Wm. Symon,? Catharine Wood John Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 24 Dec 1804 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1804 Angu,? Scotland parents: William Symon,? Catharine Wood James Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 10 Jan 1813 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1813 Angu,? Scotland parents: William Symon,? Catharine Wood David Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 31 Dec 1806 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1806 Angu,? Scotland parents: William Symon,? Catharine Wood Alexander Symon Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 27 Mar 1815 MONTROSE,?ANGUS,?SCOTLAND residence: 1815 Angu,? Scotland parents: Willm. Symon,? Cathrane Wood More anon if I find anything Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS please note it is always best to continue *onlist* which has the benefit of others opinions / knowledge and being archived for you and future researchers > Dear Alistair & Nivard, > I read your comments, and just wanted to let you know that A.) I am a > subscriber; B.) I have read all of the correspondence for several years now: > C.) Have enjoyed your dialog, and knowledge; D.) I am a NOVICE at chasing > Ghosts; & C.) I reside in the USA and am pretty clumsy and manipulating > resources beyond Ancestry so haven't been successful at gathering data from > the UK. I sit on the sidelines and read everything to learn. So reading your > comments, I sense that the two of you need a project because you are bored! > Just so you don't stop helping folks who come to this site & if you want to > give someone in the Colonies a boost, how about seeing how far you can get > chasing my GGG Grandfather, William Symon, born Angus, 1810,Montrose. Father > was the shoemaker on High St. I have traced William, a ships carpenter, to > Liverpool, where he married, and then in the early 1850's emigrated to > Ontario where he died in 1899. I have found a listing of his parents and his > siblings but I have never been able to trace his parents and his siblings... > So, if you take on a challenge and stress the limits of the Angus resources > maybe you could chase Williams parents and sibling? I would appreciate any > help that I can get!!! And it might fill up some of the time till folks get > their fall chores done and come back inside to their computers when the > weather turns wintery! > If you have questions, my email is [email protected] > Thank You For Any Consideration, > Bill Banbury ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message