Eunice, My Grandfather also lived in the Cardiff area when he came from Italy and I have done some research as to what is available. In GRO at Cardiff they have a certain amount of information about the correspondance for the Italian Embassy, unfortunatly it cannot be looked up, but they will do a search themselves for a small fee. I suggest that if you really want to find something you write to them. In the end I got my Grandfathers Naturalization papers from PRO in London so if you have a date of arrival in the UK I suggest you try that rather than the Cardiff Gro. Ruth From: "E & R Shanahan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Italian churches and places of worship > Hello Listers > I am a new member to this and will post my interests later > In answer to this part of the posting:- > > >I can't seem to find anything for Wales. Surely Cardiff, Swansea etc had > Italian communities?> > > Yes they certainly did, and in the 1881 census there is an entry for > Ludovico GIOJA (sic) who was the Italian vice-consul for Wales, and I > have written to them (they still have the consulate there), as I am trying > to trace my Grandfather Albino Flavio GIOIA - so if you need the address > I can give it to you > I also understand that there is a flourishing Italian community in > Birmingham. > all the best > Eunice Shanahan in Queensland Australia > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History > At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Eunice and Ruth, thanks for this info. Do either of you know which church your family were married in or where they baptised their children? It would be great o have the address of the consulate, I will make a note about the limitations in their records. Thanks, Elaine > Eunice, > My Grandfather also lived in the Cardiff area when he came from Italy and I > have done some research as to what is available. In GRO at Cardiff they have > a certain amount of information about the correspondance for the Italian > Embassy, unfortunatly it cannot be looked up, but they will do a search > themselves for a small fee. I suggest that if you really want to find > something you write to them. In the end I got my Grandfathers Naturalization > papers from PRO in London so if you have a date of arrival in the UK I > suggest you try that rather than the Cardiff Gro. > Ruth > From: "E & R Shanahan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Italian churches and places of worship > > >> Hello Listers >> I am a new member to this and will post my interests later >> In answer to this part of the posting:- >> >>> I can't seem to find anything for Wales. Surely Cardiff, Swansea etc had >> Italian communities?> >> >> Yes they certainly did, and in the 1881 census there is an entry for >> Ludovico GIOJA (sic) who was the Italian vice-consul for Wales, and I >> have written to them (they still have the consulate there), as I am trying >> to trace my Grandfather Albino Flavio GIOIA - so if you need the address >> I can give it to you >> I also understand that there is a flourishing Italian community in >> Birmingham. >> all the best >> Eunice Shanahan in Queensland Australia >> >> >> ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== >> Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History >> At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at >> http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History > At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

For Elaine The address is Vice Consolato D'Italia 14 Museum Place Cardiff CF1 3BH The suggestion made by the Vice Consul was "However, you may try the Italian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MAE) in Rome where records of diplomatic posting may still exist." Well, as my Italian is nil, and this is only a forlorn hope for me I don't think I can follow that one up, does anyone on the list know if that would be a viable option ? re the missing records - This was the relevant sentence "I am afraid I cannot help you at all as all the records of this Vice Consulate have been lost during a fire at the Italian Consulate General in London where they were kept in 1980"... I have no knowledge at all of my grandfather, so cannot help regards the church of but I have birth certificates for both my mother and her sister from the GRO which have no church mentioned on them. So I cannot be of any help there I'm afraid. Cheers Eunice

Thanks very much for this Eunice. Every little helps, even negative information! Best wishes, Elaine > For Elaine > The address is > Vice Consolato D'Italia > 14 Museum Place > Cardiff CF1 3BH > > The suggestion made by the Vice Consul was > "However, you may try the Italian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MAE) in > Rome where records of diplomatic posting may still exist." > > > Well, as my Italian is nil, and this is only a forlorn hope for me I don't > think I can follow that one up, does anyone on the list know if that would > be a viable option ? > > > re the missing records - > This was the relevant sentence > "I am afraid I cannot help you at all as all the records of this Vice > Consulate have been lost during a fire at the Italian Consulate General in > London where they were kept in 1980"... > > I have no knowledge at all of my grandfather, so cannot help regards the > church of but I have birth certificates for both my mother and her sister > from the GRO which have no church mentioned on them. So I cannot be of any > help there I'm afraid. > > Cheers > Eunice > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History > At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >