I have just tried out the Google in Italian and the only surnames using Ferrie are English or American. I have a feeling that his Surname was changed slightly when he went to the UK this often happened. I think it could be Ferrari or even Ferreri. Don't give in we all get to Brick Walls at sometime and when we least expect it something turns up. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:07 PM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Ideas Wanted To Demolish My Brickwall > Does anyone have any fresh ideas for me to try - I feel like I'm running > round in circles, and because I'm trying so hard to solve this 2-year old > puzzle, I wonder if I've missed something? My great-grandfather Ralph FERRIE > was born in Italy (?where). I'm not sure when, as his age varies so much in > the different census' and on his 1942 death certificate - I have a timespan > of 1851-1862. His brother Dominick FERRIE was born in Italy, too (the 1881 > census for him states Naples) sometime around 1845-50. I have been told that > the only info. the family have is that both walked across Europe to reach > England. I can find neither brother in the 1871 census of Staffordshire, > although both brothers declare children born in Staffordshire between 1872 > and 1877. Dominick married Annie Evans, who gave her birthplace as > Liverpool, and although there are records for his first child being born in > Staffordshire in @ 1872, by 1883 he and Annie were living in Liverpool. > Ralph married Matilda Malpass from Stafford - his first child was born in > 1877 in Stafford, and he remained in Stafford and later Stone (which is near > Stafford). Both families subsequently appear in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 > census in Liverpool and Stafford. From this information, and their age > ranges, I 'suppose' a date of immigration of @ 1868-70. I can find no > record, either in the Civil Index or in the Parish Churches of a marriage for > either brother. The likely RC Churches in Stafford likewise either don't > have records for the appropriate dates, or there is no trace. I have no > reason to believe that either of the spouses were Catholics. I had a > professional researcher check the Naturalisation Index at the PRO, with no > result (although the 1901 census states that Dominick was 'naturalised'). I > obtained a copy of my great-grandfathers will, hoping that he might have left > a legacy to his home town/village in Italy - but he didn't, unfortunately. > To complicate things, there is no record of any family name of FERRIE in > Italy, although both brothers always use the spelling in the census and on > their children's birth certificates. I suppose that 'FERRI' is the most > likely candidate - but that appears to be like looking for 'Smith' in > England. Any advice? Please? Before I go mad? > A Williams > [email protected] > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I wonder if it should not be "Ferri". I personally know this name exists in Italy to the present. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Ruth [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 4 avril 2002 6:57 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Ideas Wanted To Demolish My Brickwall I have just tried out the Google in Italian and the only surnames using Ferrie are English or American. I have a feeling that his Surname was changed slightly when he went to the UK this often happened. I think it could be Ferrari or even Ferreri. Don't give in we all get to Brick Walls at sometime and when we least expect it something turns up. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:07 PM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Ideas Wanted To Demolish My Brickwall > Does anyone have any fresh ideas for me to try - I feel like I'm running > round in circles, and because I'm trying so hard to solve this 2-year old > puzzle, I wonder if I've missed something? My great-grandfather Ralph FERRIE > was born in Italy (?where). I'm not sure when, as his age varies so much in > the different census' and on his 1942 death certificate - I have a timespan > of 1851-1862. His brother Dominick FERRIE was born in Italy, too (the 1881 > census for him states Naples) sometime around 1845-50. I have been told that > the only info. the family have is that both walked across Europe to reach > England. I can find neither brother in the 1871 census of Staffordshire, > although both brothers declare children born in Staffordshire between 1872 > and 1877. Dominick married Annie Evans, who gave her birthplace as > Liverpool, and although there are records for his first child being born in > Staffordshire in @ 1872, by 1883 he and Annie were living in Liverpool. > Ralph married Matilda Malpass from Stafford - his first child was born in > 1877 in Stafford, and he remained in Stafford and later Stone (which is near > Stafford). Both families subsequently appear in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 > census in Liverpool and Stafford. From this information, and their age > ranges, I 'suppose' a date of immigration of @ 1868-70. I can find no > record, either in the Civil Index or in the Parish Churches of a marriage for > either brother. The likely RC Churches in Stafford likewise either don't > have records for the appropriate dates, or there is no trace. I have no > reason to believe that either of the spouses were Catholics. I had a > professional researcher check the Naturalisation Index at the PRO, with no > result (although the 1901 census states that Dominick was 'naturalised'). I > obtained a copy of my great-grandfathers will, hoping that he might have left > a legacy to his home town/village in Italy - but he didn't, unfortunately. > To complicate things, there is no record of any family name of FERRIE in > Italy, although both brothers always use the spelling in the census and on > their children's birth certificates. I suppose that 'FERRI' is the most > likely candidate - but that appears to be like looking for 'Smith' in > England. Any advice? Please? Before I go mad? > A Williams > [email protected] > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== Italian Research http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237