Hi Diane I've been reading your messages to the list and I wwas interested to see how similar your 'Errotta' name was to 'Crotta'? which is my uncle's surname. He came from Naples so perhaps this is another variation to consider?? Happy hunting Anne -----Original Message----- From: Diane Webb [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 July 2002 16:46 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Anglo-Italian] Re: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D Digest V02 #131 Hello Ruth, many thanks for your kind message of 'keep the faith'. Also to Felicia, I tried the databases, just in case some part of my family went the South American way. No luck for my ERROTTI+ variants, however, there were plenty of Perrotti's. Maybe I should search out that name for a while! I did this in the past without results but with new material coming to the fore I just may find a connection. I have a question regarding the online publication circulated through the http://www.italians-world.org/Italy/BancaDatiGb.htm Idon't read Italian, but it does appear to have an Index - I think, probably accessed through a subscription???? What are the chances of sks on this List checking the journal out for UK/Italian connections. The journal is called "Altreitalie" and is advertised as, "Internation journal of studies on the peoples of Italian origin in the world". Perhaps our Anglo-Italian List could benefit in some way. Cheers, Diane -----Original Message----- From: Felicia Cocking [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Re: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D Digest V02 #131 Hi Ruth Most italians who went to South america went to Argentina. I dont know if you are researching the Desio or Arrigo name but if you go to the followingsite which is sponsored by the Giovani Agnelli foundation you will find 16 Desio and 41 Arrigo who went to Argentina. It is a very useful site I have found several of my ancestors who like yours went to Argentina at the turn of the cenmtury. The addy is: http://www.italians-world.org/Italy/BancaDatiGb.htm good luck Felicia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:12 AM Subject: RE: [Anglo-Italian] Re: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D Digest V02 #131 > Diane, > Even if you have reached a brickwall don't give up. I have been stuck for a > long time now with my elusive one and only brother to my Grandfather. > Supposedly he went to South America and boy is it a big place to search. I > was told that he had 22 children and I can't find one of them. I still keep > at it and one day I am sure when we least expect it something will come up. > So stay at it the information is out there somewhere > Ruth > Researching Desio and Arrigo > ----- Mensaje original ----- > De: "Diane Webb" <[email protected]> > Para: <[email protected]> > Enviado: domingo, 07 de julio de 2002 23:29 > Asunto: RE: [Anglo-Italian] Re: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D Digest V02 #131 > > > > Hello Geraldine, now I'm really confused :) , let me explain why! For > > years I have searched census records and bdm fiche at the LDS libraries > for > > the name EROTTI and variants. Also, I've subscribed to the London and > Devon > > lists, the two places given as clues from marriage and birth certs. I've > > been convinced, and advised by other listers, that the name was probably > > corrupted by my ggrandmother's family when they landed in London, or > > wherever, and on the said certs. > > > > Briefly, the family is said to have left Italy, gone to USA, left there > and > > ggm was born on the way to England, c1856-59. > > > > I've considered all kinds of variants. > > > > Recently, I searched 'the other' site (sorry I can't name it now) which > has > > come up on this List and found three ERROTTI'S in the Naples area. An > > Italian literate friend wrote letters for me but not replies - that was > over > > three months ago. > > > > I've also found the name in the Ellis Island database and each follow up > > leads to a dead end, nobody seems to have the name in their tree any > earlier > > than 1896 or thereabouts. > > > > With the 'non existence' find on the 'elenco' site, I am so puzzled. > > Please don't take this as criticism - I am very grateful you searched for > > the name on my behalf. > > > > I've just about decided to let ggm's line go - I've been at that brickwall > > for so long now. Oh I no, we family historians can't let go, not really! > > So, I'll keep watching the List, I've recently joined, and post my name > > interest from time to time and as the group grows and we become aware of > > more databases etc., I may just get lucky! > > > > Any further comments about the name would be gratefully received. > > > > Sincerely, Diane > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:45 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Re: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D Digest V02 #131 > > > > > > A good site is http://elenco.iol.it/elencotel/public/RicercaOmonimie.jsp > > which lists everyone on the telephone in Italy. If you insert just the > > surname, then it gives you how many people there are with that surname and > a > > little map of Italy showing the number of people of that surname living > > in > > each region. You can then click on to each region to get addresses and > > phone numbers. > > > > I did try 'Erotti' which someone was enquiring about, and it said > > 'inesistente' - inexistent, so perhaps the name was changed when the > > immigrant arrived in England - it could be that the first letter of the > > surname was dropped. > > > > Geraldine Gasparelli in London > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > > List Admin Message > > http://www.dreamwater.net/genealogy/AdminMessage.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go > > to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > > Anglo-Italian Mailing List Web Page > > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Anglo-Italian Mailing List Web Page > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== Missing Anglo Italian Ancestors? 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Thanks Anne, I'll reply further to you privately. Diane -----Original Message----- From: anne mitchell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Anglo-Italian] Re: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D Digest V02 #131 Hi Diane I've been reading your messages to the list and I wwas interested to see how similar your 'Errotta' name was to 'Crotta'? which is my uncle's surname. He came from Naples so perhaps this is another variation to consider?? Happy hunting Anne -----Original Message----- From: Diane Webb [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 July 2002 16:46 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Anglo-Italian] Re: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D Digest V02 #131 Hello Ruth, many thanks for your kind message of 'keep the faith'. Also to Felicia, I tried the databases, just in case some part of my family went the South American way. No luck for my ERROTTI+ variants, however, there were plenty of Perrotti's. Maybe I should search out that name for a while! I did this in the past without results but with new material coming to the fore I just may find a connection. I have a question regarding the online publication circulated through the http://www.italians-world.org/Italy/BancaDatiGb.htm Idon't read Italian, but it does appear to have an Index - I think, probably accessed through a subscription???? What are the chances of sks on this List checking the journal out for UK/Italian connections. The journal is called "Altreitalie" and is advertised as, "Internation journal of studies on the peoples of Italian origin in the world". Perhaps our Anglo-Italian List could benefit in some way. Cheers, Diane -----Original Message----- From: Felicia Cocking [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Re: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D Digest V02 #131 Hi Ruth Most italians who went to South america went to Argentina. I dont know if you are researching the Desio or Arrigo name but if you go to the followingsite which is sponsored by the Giovani Agnelli foundation you will find 16 Desio and 41 Arrigo who went to Argentina. It is a very useful site I have found several of my ancestors who like yours went to Argentina at the turn of the cenmtury. The addy is: http://www.italians-world.org/Italy/BancaDatiGb.htm good luck Felicia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:12 AM Subject: RE: [Anglo-Italian] Re: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D Digest V02 #131 > Diane, > Even if you have reached a brickwall don't give up. I have been stuck for a > long time now with my elusive one and only brother to my Grandfather. > Supposedly he went to South America and boy is it a big place to search. I > was told that he had 22 children and I can't find one of them. I still keep > at it and one day I am sure when we least expect it something will come up. > So stay at it the information is out there somewhere > Ruth > Researching Desio and Arrigo > ----- Mensaje original ----- > De: "Diane Webb" <[email protected]> > Para: <[email protected]> > Enviado: domingo, 07 de julio de 2002 23:29 > Asunto: RE: [Anglo-Italian] Re: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D Digest V02 #131 > > > > Hello Geraldine, now I'm really confused :) , let me explain why! For > > years I have searched census records and bdm fiche at the LDS libraries > for > > the name EROTTI and variants. Also, I've subscribed to the London and > Devon > > lists, the two places given as clues from marriage and birth certs. I've > > been convinced, and advised by other listers, that the name was probably > > corrupted by my ggrandmother's family when they landed in London, or > > wherever, and on the said certs. > > > > Briefly, the family is said to have left Italy, gone to USA, left there > and > > ggm was born on the way to England, c1856-59. > > > > I've considered all kinds of variants. > > > > Recently, I searched 'the other' site (sorry I can't name it now) which > has > > come up on this List and found three ERROTTI'S in the Naples area. An > > Italian literate friend wrote letters for me but not replies - that was > over > > three months ago. > > > > I've also found the name in the Ellis Island database and each follow up > > leads to a dead end, nobody seems to have the name in their tree any > earlier > > than 1896 or thereabouts. > > > > With the 'non existence' find on the 'elenco' site, I am so puzzled. > > Please don't take this as criticism - I am very grateful you searched for > > the name on my behalf. > > > > I've just about decided to let ggm's line go - I've been at that brickwall > > for so long now. Oh I no, we family historians can't let go, not really! > > So, I'll keep watching the List, I've recently joined, and post my name > > interest from time to time and as the group grows and we become aware of > > more databases etc., I may just get lucky! > > > > Any further comments about the name would be gratefully received. > > > > Sincerely, Diane > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:45 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Re: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D Digest V02 #131 > > > > > > A good site is http://elenco.iol.it/elencotel/public/RicercaOmonimie.jsp > > which lists everyone on the telephone in Italy. If you insert just the > > surname, then it gives you how many people there are with that surname and > a > > little map of Italy showing the number of people of that surname living > > in > > each region. You can then click on to each region to get addresses and > > phone numbers. > > > > I did try 'Erotti' which someone was enquiring about, and it said > > 'inesistente' - inexistent, so perhaps the name was changed when the > > immigrant arrived in England - it could be that the first letter of the > > surname was dropped. > > > > Geraldine Gasparelli in London > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > > List Admin Message > > http://www.dreamwater.net/genealogy/AdminMessage.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go > > to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > > Anglo-Italian Mailing List Web Page > > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Anglo-Italian Mailing List Web Page > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== Missing Anglo Italian Ancestors? 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