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    1. Re: [Anglo-Italian] Fw: MENCARINI ancestors
    2. Lee
    3. Jean wrote < which port might Giuseppe have left from in Italy and where might he have landed in Britain - could it have been Middlesbrough or Hartlepool? Does anyone know of an Italian community in Nottingham in 1830s/1840s? > If anyone has an answer to this , could it be posted to the list as my Italian ancestors were also in Nottingham in this period and I am having trouble with how they arrived there, and where they came from, and what happened to them, And I thought the Smith's were hard to trace My Italian names are BIANCHI and LEONARDI, they were plaster makers in Notts before going into the Public House business. My 3x Great Grandfather Florinder Bianchi was born in Lucca in 1826, had his first child in 1851 in Nottingham (cert held) but doesn't appear on the census, is there in 1861 but is dead before the 1871 census although I haven't yet found a death record, and none of his male offspring appear in the 1881 census. I know some of the Leonardi's changed their names to Leonard to avoid persecution but what would Bianchi become if they had followed suit?? Lee in Hornsea East Yorks

    07/16/2002 02:28:41
    1. Re: [Anglo-Italian] Fw: MENCARINI ancestors
    2. Fiona Hedges
    3. Lee, I'm just guessing blind here but what about Blenco(e) - common in Oxfordshire - or White? Fiona in Oxford

    07/17/2002 01:01:36
    1. Re: [Anglo-Italian] BIANCHI ancestors
    2. Jean Spence
    3. Hi Lee Interesting that your BIANCHIs came from Lucca too and settled in Nottingham for a while, just like my ancestors. Don't know if there is any connection for you with the following but give it to you for what it's worth. I had correspondence with a lady called Maureen researching BIANCHI, in 1985 and 1991. Giovanni BIANCHI died in Norwich and his wife Sarah (nee RIVETT), one dau and two sons (one of whom Maureen's ancestor, Giovanni Jnr) plus his wife and two ch, all moved to Bethnal Green, London. Maureen says her ancestor worked in a yarn factory until work became scarce. The family seems to have travelled to London from Norwich by boat. Sarah BIANCHI died in Hope St Bethnal Green 1875, 3 yrs after the family came to Loneon. Other children were Maria Anna (B.1841, d.1844) and Mary Ann b.1845 - who stayed in Norwich. There was also an Alessandro Bianchi died aged 1 in 1838 at Vine St, Saffron Hill, London - a boarding house. He had been born in Gt. Yarmouth. Researcher also found a Francisco Bianchi in the Lambeth area, a plaster figure maker. She did find record of a Giovanni Bianchi arriving by boat in London 1835 but had no proof it was her ancestor. Maureen read a book "Italian Stuccoists in Europe" by Geoffrey Beard. She wrote to the author who said there are records of Bianchis in the parish church of Campione, a village oppisite Lugano. Mary Ann B. marr Robert Hewitt and a son was named William Bianchi Hewitt. Sarah B. had a brother living in Stepney so family may have moved to London to be nearer him. Maureen says the Alessandro who died age 1 was born Gt Yarmouth but d. Saffron Hill - however two subsequent children born Gt Yarmouth and another in Norwich - so family moved about a lot. She says there was an old BIANCHI family from 1795 in Ipswich (Gaetano, an optician and music seller from Lombardy). She found his denization at Kew but none for her ancestor though 1871 census says he was naturalised by then. Maureen visited Campione and the 11C church, found several Bianchis in graveyard. Local priest could not help without proper dates. She also visited Milan where there were a couple of Bianchi tombstones. Maureen says her ancestor Giovanni Jnr was born in a pub at Gt Yarmouth - the St John's Head. Keep this message, it may be useful at a later date, you never know. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Fw: MENCARINI ancestors > Jean wrote > < which port might Giuseppe have left from in Italy and where might he have > landed in Britain - could it have been Middlesbrough or Hartlepool? > Does anyone know of an Italian community in Nottingham in 1830s/1840s? > > > If anyone has an answer to this , could it be posted to the list as my > Italian ancestors were also in Nottingham in this period and I am having > trouble with how they arrived there, and where they came from, and what > happened to them, > And I thought the Smith's were hard to trace > My Italian names are BIANCHI and LEONARDI, they were plaster makers in Notts > before going into the Public House business. > My 3x Great Grandfather Florinder Bianchi was born in Lucca in 1826, had his > first child in 1851 in Nottingham (cert held) but doesn't appear on the > census, is there in 1861 but is dead before the 1871 census although I > haven't yet found a death record, and none of his male offspring appear in > the 1881 census. > I know some of the Leonardi's changed their names to Leonard to avoid > persecution but what would Bianchi become if they had followed suit?? > Lee in Hornsea East Yorks > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Anglo Italian Family History Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html > Still under construction! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    07/20/2002 12:19:05