Patricia, I am descended from a family called Bregazzi, who came from the Como area and started life in the UK as carvers, gilders, looking glass frame makers etc, typical for immigrants from the Como region. One of them, Sebastiano Ambrogio Bregazzi, born near Como, started life in England in Brick Lane, London in 1861, then got married to Elizabeth Kelly in 1866 in Leeds. Kelly is a good Irish name! Elizabeth's father was, according to the marriage certificate, Patrick Kelly (you can't get more Irish than that), Frame Maker and Gilder. Sebastian and Elizabeth then moved to Dublin, where they founded the Irish branch of the Bregazzis, still flourishing today. I don't know if that helps at all, but it does show that you could be Irish and a frame maker! Howard >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lindsley, Patricia" <PLindsley@buckscc.gov.uk> >To: "ANGLO-ITALIAN-D-request (E-mail)" <ANGLO-ITALIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:00 PM >Subject: The Irish Connection > > > >My ancestor Charles GALEY/GAILY gives his birth place, on the 1871 Census, as >Ireland. His occupation is looking glass frame maker. At that time he is >living with his family in Shoreditch. He was married 31.03.1862, St Luke, >Clerkenwell. Ruth who turned up this surprising information for me is of the >opinion that he is Italian given his profession. > >Does any body out there have Italian family with Irish connections. I would >be very please for information on how to continue my family research. > >Patricia Lindsley -- Howard Slatter Cambridge, England

There was quite a lot of intermarriage between the Irish and the Italians - the registers of St Peter's Italian church are full of Irish names, particularly in the early days when there weren't many Italian women around for the immigrant workers to marry. The shared Catholic faith brought them into social contact, and in places like Clerkenwell, as fellow members of the immigrant underclass, they lived close together. My Alzapiedi married an O'Meara, for example. Best wishes, Elaine -- Have you joined? It costs just £5 to become an email member. Membership details and other information about tracing your Italian ancestors available from the ANGLO-ITALIAN FAMILY HISTORY SOCIETY http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk > Patricia, > > I am descended from a family called Bregazzi, who came from the Como area > and started life in the UK as carvers, gilders, looking glass frame makers > etc, typical for immigrants from the Como region. > > One of them, Sebastiano Ambrogio Bregazzi, born near Como, started life in > England in Brick Lane, London in 1861, then got married to Elizabeth Kelly > in 1866 in Leeds. Kelly is a good Irish name! Elizabeth's father was, > according to the marriage certificate, Patrick Kelly (you can't get more > Irish than that), Frame Maker and Gilder. Sebastian and Elizabeth then > moved to Dublin, where they founded the Irish branch of the Bregazzis, > still flourishing today. > > I don't know if that helps at all, but it does show that you could be Irish > and a frame maker! > > Howard > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lindsley, Patricia" <PLindsley@buckscc.gov.uk> >> To: "ANGLO-ITALIAN-D-request (E-mail)" <ANGLO-ITALIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:00 PM >> Subject: The Irish Connection >> >> >> >> My ancestor Charles GALEY/GAILY gives his birth place, on the 1871 Census, as >> Ireland. His occupation is looking glass frame maker. At that time he is >> living with his family in Shoreditch. He was married 31.03.1862, St Luke, >> Clerkenwell. Ruth who turned up this surprising information for me is of the >> opinion that he is Italian given his profession. >> >> Does any body out there have Italian family with Irish connections. I would >> be very please for information on how to continue my family research. >> >> Patricia Lindsley > > -- > Howard Slatter > Cambridge, England > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Anglo-Italian Mailing List Web Page > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/Italian.htm > > Anglo Italian Family History Society > http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >