Hi again Christine, in 1891 census I found Richard Ferrenice b Italy 1870 (census looks more age 27 to me but then it has the usual black line through it) he was a stationary engine driver (as Walter was) boarding at 162 Liverpool Road, Barton upon Irwell Lancs. Most of the people were employed as ship canal labourers. I'm guessing it was on the Manchester Ship Canal somewhere around Eccles. No doubt our other members will know more. Can't find any trace of Richard later. The name of the family he was lodging with is unreadable. It's a puzzle isn't it why they would both have such English first names. Chat again soon, Tina -------Original Message------- From: Christine Charles Date: 01/29/05 04:54:14 To: ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Anglo Italian FHS Thankyou Tina but I do have all that information. Its the origins of Walter & his family Im looking for.He appears from Italy & I was hoping he had family in UK too Im really grateful for your help THANKYOU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Pearce" <tina_ed.downunder@bigpond.com> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Anglo Italian FHS > Hi Christine, some great news. I looked in Ches BMD for marriage using > soundex on surname and found the following:- > 1898(no date) Walter FERRENICE to Harriet Ackerley St Lawrence's Frodsham, > Cheshire Central district ref 125/3/400. A copy of the marr. cert could > reveal where he was born and was living at the time etc. I will go and have > a squizz for Harriet and get back to you asap. Cheers Tina > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Christine Charles > Date: 01/29/05 03:40:04 > To: ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Anglo Italian FHS > > Hi > That is my family BUT where they are before 1901 is a total mystery > Christine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tina Pearce" <tina_ed.downunder@bigpond.com> > To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:44 AM > Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Anglo Italian FHS > > > > Hi Christine from Tina in WA, 1901 census has Walter FERRINICA b 1870 > Italy > > Brit. subject, Engine driver, 7 Moreton Terrace Frodsham with wife > Harriet > > aged 26 b Ellesmere Port Cheshire. No other family. I hope this is of some > > help. Cheers Tina ps there was also a family named Ferina living in > Liscard > > in the same census (born UK) > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: Christine Charles > > Date: 01/20/05 03:24:38 > > To: ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Anglo Italian FHS > > > > Hi > > I wonder has anyone heard of a family FERRINIEA from Italy who settle in > > Cheshire. > > Walter lived in Frodsham > > Christine in Melbourne > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mrs Julie Goucher" <anglers.rest@virgin.net> > > To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:17 AM > > Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Anglo Italian FHS > > > > > > > The Winter edition of Italian Roots is now available to members > > > of the Anglo Italian FHS via the members site on Yahoo. > > > > > > If anyone is having difficulty in accessing the journal or the members > > > site please email me for assistance with your membership number. > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Julie Goucher > > > anglers.rest@virgin.net > > > Vice Chair Anglo Italian FHS > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 17/01/2005 > > > > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > > > Anglo Italian Family History Society > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > > areas they lived. 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Hello Tina & list Tina wrote: <snip> It's a puzzle isn't it why they would both have such English first names. <snip> It's not unknown; with the Italians I'm related to, my 3x g grandfather, born in Venice(?) in about 1775, used the name Joseph when he married in London in 1799. (I don't know when he came here). I presume that he was Giuseppe in Italy. Gioani (sic) Batissta Pagliano was born in Piedmont in 1764, came to London from Italy in 1794 and was recorded as John in the marriage register in 1798 and in rate books from that date although he used Gioani in other documents as late as 1810. Perhaps they used the anglicised version of names for official purposes Colin Moretti I'm a member of the Anglo-Italian Family History Society http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk Looking for MORETTI, PAGLIANO, BARGMAN, in London TYAS, IVESON, WOOD, ABBOTT in Yorkshire