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    1. Looking for a CODRI / BRAZELL marriage
    2. Dear List, This is my first posting to the list. I've been searching for BRAZELLs and others in Bucks, Berks, and Oxon for a couple of years now, but I'm a newbie to Anglo/Italian geneaology, so please don't mind if my question is a bit basic! On a marriage certificate recently obtained, a relative, Molly E., was named as informant on the death of her mother, Ethel Mary BRAZELL, 27 May 1944 in Ealing. Molly's surname on the certificate is, I think, CODRI, which - to judge from the occurence of the name in the 1901 census - is of Italian origin. So I'm looking for Molly's marriage to a CODRI, which is not recorded in the GRO index. Molly was born Dec Qtr 1914, thus the marriage will have taken place between say 1930 and 1944. I have checked the consular marriages for the period (thanks to 1837online.com) and found none recorded. Are there any Italian sources I could consult - without spending a week in Rome (which I would of course love to do :) Paul Brazell Berlin, Germany

    08/20/2004 06:17:59
    1. Re: [Anglo-Italian] Westminster Rate Books
    2. Colin Moretti
    3. Hello Tina Many thanks for those two items. I suspect that the connection is remote but one can never be certain about these matters without investigation. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Pearce" <tina_ed.downunder@bigpond.com> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Westminster Rate Books > Hi Colin, some info for you or other member of the Pagliano family. > Australian War Graves. PAGLIANO Anton Private No.6133 Died 8/8/1918 Aged > 28. Grave No X111.B.7 Villiers-Bretonneux Military Cemetary. > Tina in Oz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Moretti" <colin.moretti@tesco.net> > To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:46 AM > Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Westminster Rate Books > > > > Hello List > > > > While inspecting rate books at Westminster Archives I came across the > following entries: > > > > Oxendon street > > Silva Vespa, 1795 > > G B Schinotti, 1795, 1796 > > Dominico Corri, 1800, 1801 > > Philip Anthony Corri, 1802 - 1807 > > Anna Fano, 1801- 1803 > > > > St Martins street > > Valentino, 1795 - 1798 > > > > I hope that they are interest to someone > > > > Colin Moretti > > > > I'm a member of the Anglo-Italian Family History Society > > http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk > > > > Looking for MORETTI, PAGLIANO, BARGMAN, in London > > > > TYAS, IVESON, WOOD, ABBOTT in Yorkshire > > > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > > Anglo-Italian Mailing List Web Page > > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/Italian.htm > > > > Anglo Italian Family History Society > > http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk > > > > ============================== > > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Anglo Italian Family History Society > http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

    08/20/2004 05:26:02
    1. Westminster Rate Books
    2. Colin Moretti
    3. Hello List While inspecting rate books at Westminster Archives I came across the following entries: Oxendon street Silva Vespa, 1795 G B Schinotti, 1795, 1796 Dominico Corri, 1800, 1801 Philip Anthony Corri, 1802 - 1807 Anna Fano, 1801- 1803 St Martins street Valentino, 1795 - 1798 I hope that they are interest to someone Colin Moretti I'm a member of the Anglo-Italian Family History Society http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk Looking for MORETTI, PAGLIANO, BARGMAN, in London TYAS, IVESON, WOOD, ABBOTT in Yorkshire

    08/19/2004 12:46:35
    1. Anglo Italian FHS Bookstall
    2. Mrs Julie Goucher
    3. Hello everyone, Two new books have been added to the bookstall. Bella Brum, about the Italian community in Birmingham From the Serchio to the Solway, about the Italian Community in Dumfries & Galloway (South West Scotland) They can be ordered via our stand at the Parish Chest - http://www.parishchest.com or by post. If you wish to order by post either use the order form which is on the Anglo Italian web site http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk or if you send me an email I will send one back to you as a word attachment. Regards Julie Goucher --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 16/08/2004

    08/17/2004 02:32:55
    1. Sicilian Language Course Online
    2. Mrs Julie Goucher
    3. I have been sent the following URL regarding learning Sicilian online. http://www.linguasiciliana.org/grammatica_file/course.htm Copies are also avaliable for download in Microsoft word http://www.linguasiciliana.org/documenti_file/sicilian.doc And as a PDF - Adobe Acrobat file http://www.linguasiciliana.org/documenti_file/sicilian.pdf Regards Julie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 11/08/2004

    08/12/2004 01:55:37
    1. 1851 Census
    2. david barber
    3. Hello Listers Find some entries from The London 1851 census that may have Italian connections. LUPINO Raphael Married 70 Patient Portuguese Jews Hospital, Stepney Leghorn H 107 / 1553 504 SISTINI Jane Head Widow 73 Monthly Nurse 3, Pleasant Row, Stepney Middx, St Georges East H 107 / 1553 855 KIRBY Mary Grandaughter Unmarried 15 Needle Woman 3, Pleasant Row, Stepney Middx, St Georges East H 107 / 1553 855 KIRBY Caroline Grandaughter 11 Scholar 3, Pleasant Row, Stepney Middx, St Georges East H 107 / 1553 855 GIGLIO John Head Married 28 Italian Language Teacher 4, Swattons Place, Stepney Naples BS H 107 / 1553 1026 GIGLIO Louisa Wife Married 28 4, Swattons Place, Stepney Suffolk, Halesworth H 107 / 1553 1026 PIZZONIA J Orphan 1 3, Alpha Place, Poplar Bristol H 107 / 1555 732 GUNNETO John Lodger Married 40 Mariner 10, Union Street, Poplar Italy H 107 / 1556 989 IONADA? Felix Head Married 36 Turner 812, Albert Place, Poplar Italy BS H 107 / 1556 1564 IONADA? Ellen Wife Married 23 812, Albert Place, Poplar Middx H 107 / 1556 1564 INNOCENTI Joseph Head Married 34 Plaster of Paris Maker Mill Wall, Poplar Italy H 107 / 1556 1626 INNOCENTI Caroline Wife Married 29 Mill Wall, Poplar Middx, Holborn H 107 / 1556 1626 INNOCENTI Joseph Son 6 Scholar Mill Wall, Poplar Middx, Holborn H 107 / 1556 1626 Regards Dave from a wet North Devon

    08/12/2004 09:04:37
    1. Subject: ashphalters, SARTORI
    2. Daphne Dashfield
    3. > My family is from Morfasso also. My grandfather Giovanni SARTORI was also > an ashphalter lived in London( livid at 17 St James Street) from abt 1901 to > 1905 (he returned to Morfasso because he became ill) with his wife > Giuseppina born Micheli and their son Antonio, Felicia, My family has recently been in touch with someone living in London who I think is our 3rd cousin. Her father, Antonio GHIRARDANI was an asphalter in London (d 1929). Her mother was Mary ROSSINI. Mary's mother first married a SARTORI, he died quite quickly and she re- married a Rossini. I don't know where Mary was from or who her mother was, but Antonio was from Villora, Varsi, Parma, not very far from Morfasso. No Sartori or Rossini there as far as I know. Daphne Dashfield (Geradine) GHIRARDANI, => GERADINE, etc. - many spelling variations in London from approx 1844 TASSI, SCRIMAGLIA, NICOLI, (DI) or (O)STACCHINI in London GHIRARDANI, LOVATI, SILVA, MAC(C)INI, BOTTI Parma esp 18th century

    08/10/2004 04:09:59
    1. Re Archives
    2. Mrs Julie Goucher
    3. Apologies everyone, The Anglo Italian Family History Society web page is at http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk/ Julie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.736 / Virus Database: 490 - Release Date: 09/08/2004

    08/10/2004 01:52:51
    1. BOVO
    2. Mrs Julie Goucher
    3. Westcumberland Times - Sat, 10 October 1903 (Wanted ads) Cooks, housemaids and generals wanted. Mrs BOVO, Principal Registry Office, Corn Market, Cockermouth. A look at http://gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html?cognome=BOVO&t=cognomi-prov shows the concentration of the name. Information supplied by Margarat - thanks! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.736 / Virus Database: 490 - Release Date: 10/08/2004

    08/10/2004 01:44:38
    1. Archives
    2. Mrs Julie Goucher
    3. Hello everyone, Over the last few weeks we have had quite a few new members to not only this list, but to the Society - Welcome! The following links are for the archives and they may well be worth having a look through Anglo Italian Searchable Archives http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ANGLO-ITALIAN Anglo Italian Threaded Arvchives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ANGLO-ITALIAN We now have more than 170 people on the mailing list, and this would certainly be a good time for new & previous list members to send in their Italian research names. Please also remember, that the surname interests of Anglo Italian FHS members can be accessed via the web page. The Anglo Italian FHS web page is at http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org Regards Julie Goucher ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

    08/09/2004 01:59:16
    1. Unidentified subject!
    2. Mrs Julie Goucher
    3. I am forwarding this reply, which was for Michael. Can all further responses be sent to the list address anglo-italian-L@rootsweb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felicia Cocking" <felicia.cocking@sympatico.ca> To: "Mrs Julie Goucher" <anglers.rest@virgin.net> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Fw: {not a subscriber} ashphalters Hi My family is from Morfasso also. My grandfather Giovanni SArtori was also an ashphalter lived in London( livid at 17 St James Street) from abt 1901 to 1905 (he returned to Morfasso because he became ill) with his wife Giuseppina born Micheli and their son Antonio, The name Rapacioli is not very common My great grandmother was a Rapacioli. I am looking for information on Giovanni RApacioli who married Luisa Guainazzi in 1892 they had a daughter Adelaide in 1893 and left for the USA in 1900 where they changed their name to Loring Do any of these details ring a bell with anyone? names I am researching SARTORI MICHELI RAPACIOLI AMASANTI Many thanks Felicia ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

    08/09/2004 01:38:25
    1. Fw: {not a subscriber} ashphalters
    2. Mrs Julie Goucher
    3. Forwarded - Michael is now a member of the list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Mortali" <mmortali@tesco.net> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 9:35 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} ashphalters my grandfather was also an asphalter with family from morfasso he was also in lou rapacioli class at st peters school his name was ricci grandi --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 06/08/2004

    08/08/2004 04:04:57
    1. Italians in Bedfordshire
    2. Mrs Julie Goucher
    3. As part of the BBC Listen again facility - The Italian Job "In the third programme in the landmark Sense of Place series for Beds and Herts, there's the chance to find out if all Italians in Bedfordshire make bricks and eat pizza" http://www.bbc.co.uk/threecounties/senseofplace/italian_job.shtml -- Regards, Julie Goucher anglers.rest@virgin.net --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 06/08/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 07/08/2004

    08/08/2004 07:15:00
    1. Book - London Labour & the London poor
    2. Mrs Julie Goucher
    3. Book - Henry Mayhew. London Labour and the London Poor Volume 3. (published) London. Griffen, Bohn and Company, Stationer's Hall Court. 1851. Many of the pages of this book have been digitilised and placed at http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/4000.01/index.html It is certainly worth having a look through the URL above, for background info on the Italian community in London. --- Regards, Julie Goucher --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 07/08/2004

    08/08/2004 03:43:35
    1. London - Street Musicians.: Organ Man, With Flute Harmonicon Organ
    2. Mrs Julie Goucher
    3. http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/4000.01/index.html - insert Italian in the search box Henry Mayhew, London Labour and the London Poor: Volume 3 Ii.-Street Musicians.: Organ Man, With Flute Harmonicon Organ I live in a room by myself with three others, and we pay 1s. each, and there is two bed. If I go to lodging-house I pay 1s. 6d. the week. In the Italian lodging-house they give you clean shirt on the Sunday for the 1s. 6d. It is my own shirt, but they clean it. This is only in Italian house. In English house it is 1s. 6d. and no shirt. I have breakfast of coffee or what I like, and we club together. We have bread and butter, sometime herring, sometime bacon, what we likes. In the day I buy a pen'orth of bread and a pen'orth of cheese, and some beer, and at night I have supper. I make maccarone--what you call it?--or rice and cabbage, or I make soup or bile some taters; with all four together it come to about 9d. or 10d. a-day for living. In the house where I live they are all Italians. They are nearly all Italians that live about Leather-lane and Saffron-hill. There is a good bit of them live there. I should say 200: I dare say there is. The house where I live is my own. I let empty room; they bring their own things, you know. It is my lease, and I pay the rent. It is only the people say that the Italian boys are badly used: they are not so, the masters are very kind to them. If he make 1s. he bring it home; if 3s. or 4s. or 6d. he bring it home. He is not commandé to bring home so much; that is what the people say. I was with the magistrate of police in Marlboroughstreet four days ago, about a little Italian boy that the policemen take for asking money. Some one ask to buy his monkey and talk with him, and then he ask for a penny, and the police take him. A gentleman ask me about the boys. I tell him it is all nonsense what the people say. There is no more boys sent here now. If a boy comes over, and he is bad boys, he goes and play in the street instead of working; then, after paying so much for his coming to England, it is a loss. It does not pay the boys. If I was a master I would not have the boys, if they come here for nothing. Suppose I have two organs, then one is in the house doing nothing. Then some one come and say, 'Lend me the organ for to-day.' Then I say, 'Yes,' and charge him, some 4d., some 6d.; or if somebody ill and he cannot go out, then he's organ doing nothing, and he lend it out for 4d. or 6d. There is two or three in London who sends out men with organs, but I don't know who has got the most of us. Then they pay the men 1l. a-month and their keep, or some 15s. Then, some goes half and keep him: then, it's more profits to the man than the master. Christmas-time is nothing like the summer-time. Sometimes they give you a Christmas-box, but it's not the time for Christmasbox now. Sometimes it's a glass of beer: 'Here's a Christmas-box for you.' Sometimes it's a glass of gin, or rum, or a piece of pud- ding: 'Here's a Christmas-box for you.' I have had 6d., but never 1s. for a Christmasbox. Sometimes on a boxing-day it is 3s., or 2s. 6d. for the day. I have never travelled in the country with my organ, only once when I was young, as far as Liverpool, but no further. Many has got his regular time out in the country. When I go out with the organ I should say it make altogether that I walk ten miles. I want two new pairs of boots every year. I start off in the morning, sometimes eight, sometimes nine or ten, whether I have far to go. I never stop out after seven o'clock at night. Some do, but I don't. I don't know music at all. I am middling fond of it. There is none of the Italians that I know that sings. The French is very fond of singing. When first you begins, it tries the wrist, turning the handle of the organ; but you soon gets accustomed to it. At first, the arm was sore with the work all day. When I am playing I turn the handle regularly. Sometimes there are people who say, 'Go a little quick,' but not often. If the silk in front of the organ is bad, I get new and put it in myself; the rain spoil it very much. It depend upon what sort of organ he is, as to the sort of silk he gets: sometimes 2s. 6d. a-yard, and he take about a yard and a half. Some like to do this once a-year; but some when he see it get a little dirty, like fresh things, you know, and then it is twice a-year. The police are very quiet to us. When anybody throw up a window and say, 'Go on,' I go. Sometime they say there is sick in the house, when there is none, but I go just the same. If I did not, then the policeman come, and I get into trouble. I have heard of the noise in the papers about the organs in the street, but we never talk of it in our quarter. They pay no attention to the subject, for they know if anybody say, 'Go,' then we must depart. That is what we do. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 07/08/2004

    08/08/2004 03:34:12
    1. London - One-Legged Italian
    2. Mrs Julie Goucher
    3. I was sent this interesting URL http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/4000.01/index.html Insert Italian into the search facility and it produces several fascinating write ups. - I shall forward some of these to the list then they are recorded in the archives. Henry Mayhew, London Labour and the London Poor: Volume 3 Gun-Exercise Exhibitor--One-Legged Italian. I AM an Italian, domiciled at Genoa, and I speak very little French, only just enough to ask for things--to get my life with, you know. Genoa is the most rich town of Piedmont, but it is not the most jolie. Oh no! no! no! Turin is the most beautiful, oh yes! It is a long street of palaces. You know Turin is where the King of Sardinia, with the long moustaches, lives. Has Monsieur been to Turin? No! Ah, it is a great sight! Perhaps Monsieur has seen Genoa? No! Ah you have a great pleasure to come. Genoa is very rich, but Turin is very beautiful. I prefer Turin. I was a soldier in my country. Oh, not an officer. I was in the 2nd battalion of the Bassolein, nearly the same as the Chasseurs de Vincennes in France. It is the first regiment in Piedmont. We had a green uniform with a roll collar, and a belt round one shoulder, and a short rifle. We had a feather one side of our hats, which are of felt. Ah, c'était bien joli ça! We use long bullets, Minié ones. All the army in my country are under four brothers, who are all generals, and Ferdinando Marmora is the commanderin- chief--the same that was in the Crimea. Nearly all my companions in the Bassolein regiment were from the Tyrol. Ah, they shoot well! They never miss. They always kill. Sacré Dieu! I was wounded at the bataille de Pescare, against the Austrians. We gained the battle and entered the town. The General Radetzky was against us. He is a good general, but Ferdinando Marmora beat him. Ferdinando was wounded by a ball in the cheek. It passed from left to right. He has the mark now. Ah, he is a good general. I was wounded. Pardon! I cannot say if it was a bal de canon or a bal de fusil. I was on the ground like one dead. I fell with my leg bent behind me, because they found me so. They tell me, that as I fell I cried, 'My God! my God!' but that is not in my memory. After they had finished the battle they took up the wounded. Perhaps I was on the ground twelve hours, but I do not know exactly. I was picked up with others and taken to the hospital, and then one day after my leg decomposed, and it was cut directly. All the bone was fracassé, vairy beaucoup. I was in the hospital for forty days. Ah! it was terrible. To cut the nerves was terrible. They correspond with the head. Ah, horrible! They gave me no chloroform. Rien! rien! No, nor any dormitore, as we call it in Italian, you know,--something in a glass to drink and make you sleep. Rien! rien! If I had gone into the Hôpital des Invalides, I should have had 20 sous a-day; but I would not, and now my pension is 12 sous a-day. I am paid that now; whether I am here or there, it is the same. My wife receives the 12 sous whilst I am here. I shall not stop here long. The langue is too difficult. No, I shall not learn it, because at the house where I lodge we speak Italian, and in the streets I speak to no one. I have been to France, but there the policemen were against me. They are bêtes, the policemen français. The gentlemen and ladies all all good. As I walked in the streets with my crutch, one would say, 'Here, poor fellow, are two sous;' or, 'Come with me and have some wine.' They are good hearts there. Whilst I was going to Paris I walk on my leg. I also even now and then find good occasions for mounting in a voiture. I say to them, 'Monsieur, accord me the relief of a ride?' and they say, 'Yes, come, come.' In England no police interfere with me. Here it is good. If the police say to me 'Go on, go on,' I say, 'Pardon, Monsieur,' and move --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 07/08/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 07/08/2004

    08/08/2004 03:27:58
    1. Italian Hospital Fund - London
    2. Mrs Julie Goucher
    3. Several weeks ago, someone asked me if I had the address for the Italian Hospital Fund. I did, but was not able to find it at the time, I have now located the URL http://www.ambitalia.org.uk/IHF.htm Regards Julie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 06/08/2004

    08/07/2004 04:49:10
    1. Re: [Anglo-Italian] GEROSA family 19century - today help please
    2. Penny & Richard
    3. Hi Fiona, thank you for the offer, some one has offered to, but has to wait until he has finished the film in his camera. Could I be so greedy as to take you up on your offer just in case! also if there is any doubt about which house then I could have his opinion and yours so one of them is bound to be right. thank you Penny

    08/02/2004 03:05:02
    1. Re: [Anglo-Italian] GEROSA family 19century - today help please
    2. Fiona Hedges
    3. Hi Penny & Richard from Oxford. Do you have photos of the locations? Let me know if not, & if I can figure out the technology I'll use spouse's digital camera & send on to you. I expect Bradmore Road will still be as was. Pembroke St is probably as was but I might have difficulty figuring out which is the correct house becuase I think (from memory) that all those houses are now part of Pembroke College & the original entrances, though there, are not used. Fiona ----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny & Richard" <hallowes@xtra.co.nz> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 1:33 AM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] GEROSA family 19century - today help please > Hi > > I can't prove but think that the is a chance my Grandfather's father was > Enrico GEROSA. My grandfather was adopted but his birth mother registered > him with the name Corrie Enrico Clark MARGETTS. She was Louisa MARGETTS and > she had him in Sutton Surrey in October 1891. In the 1891 census she was > working and living in Oxford. She lived at 10 Bradmore Road St Giles Oxford > The only Enrico living in Oxfordshire at that time was Enrico Charles > GEROSA and he lived within a mile of where she lived, at 35 Pembroke Street > St Ebbe Oxford. > Enrico is an unusual name for a country girl to give her baby, so i feel it > must have some significance to her. Enrico left Oxford where he was working > as a drapers assistant, and by 1896 was married in Reading, Berkshire. He > was running a confectionery business at his home at 248 Kings Road Reading. > Then in the 1901 census He is the manager of a carpet dept, and his wife > Sophia was running the Confectionary business in her own account. They had > a daughter Anita Kathleen Gerosa who was born abt 1899. They were living at > 286 Kings Road. > > I have done a family tree as if Enrico is the father with all the > information I can find about him included in it. I would love to find a > descendant of these Gerosa's to see if we could get a DNA match done. > I hope this makes sense. I am also going to post it to the Italian > surnames > list so I am sorry if you get it twice. > > Thank you > > Penny in NZ > > > Descendants of Henry Gerosa > This is just a guess and to see how our Corrie would fit in with this family > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. HENRY1 GEROSA he was born abt 1820 died abt 1879. He married SUSANNA. > She was born Abt. 1838 in Birmingham, Wolverhampton Stafford or London?. > > More About HENRY GEROSA: > Occupation: 1871, Courrier > > Deaths 1879 > Camberwell 1d 451 > > > > Notes for SUSANNA: > > > > Household:1881 > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability > Susanna GEROSA Head W Female 46 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England > Mangling > Grace Victa. GEROSA Daur U Female 11 Chelsea, Middlesex, England > Scholar > Source Information: > Dwelling 76 Lancaster St > Census Place Southwark St George Martyr, Surrey, England > Family History Library Film 1341119 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 0528 / 13 > Page Number 17 > > Children of HENRY GEROSA and SUSANNA are: > i. HENRIETTA2 GEROSA, b. Abt. 1866. > > HENRIETTA FANNY EMMA GEROSA > Birth: 23 JUN 1865 > > Christening: 27 AUG 1865 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, > London > England > > Father: HENRY GEROSA Family > Mother: SUSAN > > Household:1881 > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability > Elizabeth Augusta SPRIGGS Head W Female 58 Highclere, Hampshire, > England Hotel Keeper > Sarah Annie SPRIGGS Dau U Female 20 Alresford, Hampshire, > England > > John Albert SPRIGGS Son U Male 17 Winchester, Hampshire, England > > Mary M. MILLAR Boarder W Female 34 Aarton, Sussex, England > Book > Keeper (Clerk) > Henrietta GEROSA Serv U Female 15 London, London, Middlesex, > England Barmaid > Marrianne HAMMOND Serv U Female 30 London, London, Middlesex, > England Cook Domestic Servant > Elizabeth JOY Serv U Female 23 Bower Chalk, Hampshire, England > Housemaid Domestic Servant > Anne NOKES Serv U Female 21 Sutton Scotney, Hampshire, England > Housemaid Domestic Servant > Anne HOOKER Serv U Female 18 Alresford, Hampshire, England > Housemaid Domestic Servant > Hannah DAVIS Serv U Female 24 London, London, Middlesex, England > Laundry Maid > Theresa WEBB Serv U Female 23 Marchwood, Hampshire, England > Scullery Maid > Eliza LIGHT Serv U Female 19 Upham, Hampshire, England Kitchen > Maid > William MANSBRIDGE Serv U Male 27 Sparshot, Hampshire, England > Porter Dom Serv > Richard LIVINGSTONE Serv U Male 16 Gurney Page (Inn Svt) > Sidney Harry CHAPLIN Serv U Male 22 London, London, Middlesex, > England Waiter (Inn Svt) > Julin POOLE Visitor U Male 37 Middlesex, England > Lawrence CAVE Visitor M Male 56 London, London, Middlesex, > England Retired Capt.Army > Source Information: > Dwelling 21 St Peter Street (Royal Hotel) > Census Place Winchester, Hampshire, England > Family History Library Film 1341301 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 1231 / 110 > Page Number 3 > > There is also a Miss H GEROSA as manageress at the > Royal Albion Hotel (Post > Office London Directory 1895) > > > ii. CAROLINE GEROSA, b. Abt. 1867. > iii. THERESA GEROSA, b. Abt. 1867.?? > > Notes for THERESA GEROSA: She may not be related I have no proof. > 1881 > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability > Henry BLACKLIN Head M Male 30 London, Middlesex, England > Butcher > Frances BLACKLIN Wife M Female 27 Tun.Wells, Kent, England > > Henry BLACKLIN Son U Male 4 London, Middlesex, England > Frances BLACKLIN Daur U Female 3 London, Middlesex, England > > Charles BLACKLIN Son U Male 1 London, Middlesex, England > Henry ENGLISH Brother U Male 19 Frant, Kent, England Butcher > > Arthur PILKINGTON Assist U Male 16 London, Middlesex, England > Butcher > Phillis FROST Serv U Female 20 London, Middlesex, England > Servant > Theresa GEROSA Serv U Female 14 London, Middlesex, England > Servant > Mary HYLAND Serv U Female 22 London, Middlesex, England Nurse > (Dom.) > Source Information: > Dwelling 77 Warren St. > Census Place London, Middlesex, England > Family History Library Film 1341041 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 0187 / 67 > Page Number 19 > > 2. iv. ENRICO CHARLES GEROSA, b. Abt. 1868, Chelsea London > > > v. GRACE VICTORIA GEROSA, b. Abt. 1870. > Marriages Jun 1896 > Gerosa Grace Victoria Reading 2c 768 > > Household: 1881 > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability > Susanna GEROSA Head W Female 46 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England > Mangling > Grace Victa. GEROSA Daur U Female 11 Chelsea, Middlesex, England > Scholar > Source Information: > Dwelling 76 Lancaster St > Census Place Southwark St George Martyr, Surrey, England > Family History Library Film 1341119 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 0528 / 13 > Page Number 17 > > vi. CAESAR JOSEPH GEROSA, b. Abt. 1871. married Sarah > 1897 > > Births Jun 1871 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > -- > Gerosa John Joseph C Chelsea 1a 211 > Gerosa John Joseph C Chelsea 1a 241 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > -- > Marriages Sep 1897 > Gerosa Joseph Caesar Warrington 8c 284 > > > > > > > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. ENRICO CHARLES2 GEROSA (HENRY1) was born Abt. 1868 in Chelsea London. . > He met (1) LOUISA MARGETTS, daughter of WILLIAM MARGETTS and ELIZABETH > GARDNER. She was born 1867 in Barford St Michael, Oxfordshire.He married > (2) SOPHIA. She was born Abt. 1872 in Reading Berkshire > > Notes for ENRICO CHARLES GEROSA: > Gerosa, Enrico 23 London, Middlesex drapers assistant St Ebbe Oxfordshire > > > Name: Gerosa, Enrico Charles > Record Type: Marriages > Quarter: September > Year: 1896 > District: Reading > County: Berkshire > Volume: 2c > Page: 734 > > Marriages Sep 1896 > Albury Sarah Sophia Reading 2c 734 ? > Gerosa Enrico Charles Reading 2c 734 > > > 1881 Very large school with over a hundred pupils. > > Dwelling Fir Tree Road Kensington & Chelsea Dist School > Census Place Ewell, Surrey, England > Family History Library Film 1341179 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 0762 / 135 > Page Number 3 > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability > Charles Hy. HOLMES Plumber (Head) M Male 35 Bromley, Middlesex, > England Plumber > Sarah HOLMES Wife House Mother M Female 31 Winchester, Hampshire > > England House Mother > John OSMOND Store Porter U Male 22 Weston Bamfyld, Somerset, > England Porter (Dom) > Fredk. PAYNE Assist To Tailor U Male 17 Kensington, Middlesex, > England Porter (Dom) > Clement CRISPE Assist To Carpenter U Male 20 Northfleet, Kent, > England Carpenter > Clara COOPER Assist U Female 23 Rochester, Kent, England Asst > Nurse > Adeline PALMER Nurse U Female 25 Blackmore, Essex, England > Nurse > William GRAINGER Shoemaker M Male 40 Saffron Walden, Essex, > England Shoemaker > Rhoda GRAINGER Wife House Mother M Female 36 Frimley, Surrey, > England House Mother > Edith G. GRAINGER (Daur) Female 4 Bagshot, Surrey, England > > Henry C. GEROSA Scholar Male 12 > Caesar J. GEROSA Scholar Male 9 > > > > > > Notes for LOUISA MARGETTS: > More About LOUISA MARGETTS: > Census: 1871, living at Church Street Barford St Michael Oxon > Fact: 1891, If this is the right Louisa then an 8 yr old boy called Corrie > Adams lived in Oakhill road not far from the High Street Sutton., where she > gave birth to Corrie Enrico. > > Children of ENRICO GEROSA and SOPHIA are: > i. ANITA KATHLEEN3 GEROSA, b. 1899. > Notes for ANITA KATHLEEN GEROSA: > > Births Mar 1899 > Gerosa Anita Kathleen Reading 2c 354 > > ii. ENRICO CECIL GEROSA, b. 1903. > Notes for ENRICO CECIL GEROSA: > Births Sep 1903 > Gerosa Enrico Cecil W.Derby 8b 657 > > Child of ENRICO GEROSA and LOUISA MARGETTS is: > 3. iii. CORRIE ENRICO CLARK3 MARGETTS (MCRAE), b. 21 > October 1891; d. 20 April 1934. > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Anglo Italian Family History Society > http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

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    1. Re: [Anglo-Italian] BUZZA
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