A family friend visited me on Sunday and mentioned that if my great-great-grandfather arrived at the Pool of London he may well have gone to live in the Italian Community around the Clerkenwell area. My family believe that he arrived in this country when he was about 12 years of age (approx 1850) and finally made it to wales by 1861 (he was on the 1861 census). What records are available for the Clerkenwell and Italian communities in London? Best wishes Sian http://www.webdiva.co.uk PFHS# 2249 GFHS# 6260 AIFHS # 200 GLA: Evans, Thomas, Rees, Jenkins, Arthur, Martin, Tidman POW: Evans, Thomas WAR: Tidman, Tidmas and Lattimer Italy: Bacigalupo, Lertora, Monteverde 'No Strength but brotherhood' - Iolo Morganwg ---------------------------------------------------------------

"Catholic Marriages in Tunisia" from 1801 to 1949. In the late 1800s and early 1900s many Sicilians migrated to Tunisia. http://perso.club-internet.fr/debono/mariagestunisie/listing.html The site is not written in English, but is certainly, well worth a look if your ancestors, like my Orlando's came from Sicily. For those whose French is not good, I used this site for a translation http://ets.freetranslation.com/ --- Regards, Julie Goucher www.anglers-rest.net --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 13/09/2004

From the London Post Office Directory of 1846: MAZZEI Giovanni Plaster Moulder and Figure Maker 23 Great Queen Street. Kathy Nelson, New Zealand

RG10/4101, folio 6 248 Shaw Rd, Oldham, Lancashire: Hannah (looks like HOWARTH), Lodger, Widow, 49, Shopkeepers Assistant, born Lancashire, Oldham Henry, Son, Unmarried, 17, Weaver Cotton, born Italym, Genoa (Naturalised Subject) A Williams Bashstreetkid@lycos.co.uk

Forwarding, please can replies be sent to the list address of Anglo-Italian-L@rootsweb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Amyabamber@aol.com> To: <anglo-italian-l-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 3:15 PM Subject: old soldier I am trying to find information about an Italian World War 2 prisoner of war who was interned in a camp near Bury in Lancashire, England towards the end of the war - 1944/5. I don't know if the Italian authorities have archives I can access. Can you help please? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.752 / Virus Database: 503 - Release Date: 04/09/2004

Hello everyone, As some of you are aware, we have an irritating intermittent fault on our telephone line for several weeks. As a result of this the telephone number published in Italian Roots is not avaliable, therefore, if you do need to contact either Julie or myself you can do so, by either leaving a message on the following number 0870 130 5474 or by sending an email to the addresses in Italian Roots. --- Regards, Stuart Goucher membership@anglo-italianfhs.org.uk Membership Secretary Anglo Italian FHS Anglo Italian Family History Society www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.746 / Virus Database: 498 - Release Date: 01/09/2004

Hi everyone, I am new to this list. I have been trying to find out information on the CUNEO family from Sheffield. The family consists of Andrew CUNEO (1827), Mary (Maria) CUNEO (1834) both born in Italy. There children where John (1863), Andrew (1866), Anthony (1871) and Theresa (1877) all born in Sheffield. They are down as being Ice cream makers, which I am sure will be very interesting if I can find out more info on them. I have the census information for 1871 onwards but nothing for the 1861 so they may have come over sometime between 1861 and 1864 when the CUNEO ice cream company was established. I have no idea how to trace back any further or to find out how/when they came over from Italy. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Lisa (Sheffield)

Just one of my sporadic postings to see if anyone out there can shed any light on one branch of my family tree!  My great grandfather, Luigi Rapetti, supposedly came from Torino but there is no record of his birth at the Torino record office.  I have tried various other record offices in the Piemonte area (also some in Liguria and Lombardia). Nothing.  His date of birth would have been around 1872.  His father, Pompeo was a prison foreman (at least it's stated on Luigi's marriage certificate).  Luigi worked in the UK as a waiter and a watch repairer / watchmaker. Luigi supposedly travelled to Argentina and the US with his brother who stayed there and didn't join Luigi when he came to the UK. Luigi's children (one of whom is my late grandfather) were named : Claudio Felice Andrea Meani Ugo Oreste Mario Louis Ronaldo Celeste I am assuming that Meani is another family surname as I am not familiar with it as a first name.   Would anyone agree with this assumption? As Luigi died when my grandfather and his brothers were very young, there is very little known about him.  My grandfather's mother (not Italian) remarried very quickly and mention of her late Italian husband was forbidden! I have a very old photo of Luigi with some very faint writing on the back (unintelligible to me and maybe not even relevant) - would there be any clues in the setting or format of the photo? I am really at a loss as to my next move.  I have written to many record offices.  I have contacted various Rapettis & Meanis from the telephone books.  I have looked up various people on Ellis Island's website.  I have been on the UK's 1901 census (probably too early for Luigi but I'm not sure of this).  I have been on Family Search, Genealogy.com, and other well known websites. Nothing produces any clues.... Any advice would be very gratefully received. Best wishes Sarah Lucia RAPETTI

I have recently read a book by Howard Reid called Dad's War. The book is the author's personal trip to Italy following in his father's (Ian Reid) footsteps based upon a diary & journal kept by his father during the Second World War. Ian Reid was in a Prisoner of War camp in Italy. He escaped (and was recaptured several times), but was supported and protected by many Italians, during what was a difficult and insecure time. - The book is excellent for descriptive details of rural Italy during this time. Having enjoyed Howard Reid's book I have obtained a copy of his father's original book which was published in 1947. Prisoner at Large by Ian Reid published Futura 1947 ISBN - 0 8600 7360 2 Dad's War by Howard Reid published Bantam Books ISBN - 0 553 81554 7 I have placed both of my copies in the library of the Anglo Italian FHS and they can be borrowed, by reading the Society Library terms and conditions and by sending the borrowing request to me in Devon. If you do not have a copy of the terms & conditions and the borrowing form, please email me and I can email one to you. Regards Julie Goucher --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 28/08/2004

In the August 2003 edition of Family Tree Magazine, there was a fascinating article about names that had been transcribed incorrectly in the 1881 Census. B0RDOLI, Benjamin/7/Son/scholar/LEC/LEC 3173/120 B0RDOLI, Elizabeth/5/Dau/scholar/LEC/LEC -id- B0RDOLI, Rebecca/9/Dau/scholar/LEC/LEC -id-/(children of Benjamin BORDOLI, age 49) This entry was located by using a 0 instead of an o. This certainly provides food for thought. Regards Julie Goucher --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 27/08/2004

Thanks Rod! I didn't know that site - it is clear that I was right in thinking he was from Genoa! I only mentioned the Mazzei connection because of the marriage certificate and I understood that someone else had been researching Mazzei's in Cardiff, but it is clearly a more problematic name to pursue. I'll stick to my own family from now on! Celia Villa-Landa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Saunders" <rodsaunders@globalnet.co.uk> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Bafico family > Hi Celia, just on the remote chance that you haven't looked at this Italian > surnames' site before: > http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html > Bafico is concentrated in Liguria. There are others in, Piemonte, Lombardia, > Sardinia and Sicilia. Except for Liguria, they are in single figures, and in > Liguria there aren't that many either. Maybe you could contact some of them > through the White pages and see if there is a connection? > > You'd be phoning, and writing forever if you followed the Mazzei names on > that site :-) > > I hope someone can give you more specific information. > > Good luck with your search. > > Rod Saunders Anglo-Italian Family History Society AIFHS > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html > Cassino: Melaragni, Persecchini, Lanna/Lanni, D'Agostino > Settesorelle di Vernasca: Dadomo > Liverpool & Manchester: Bartolomeo, Tomasso/Tomassio, Capella/Capela, > Crolla, Franchelli, Melaragni/Melarangi/Melarange, Dadomo/Dadoma > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Celia Villa-Landa" <cfevillalanda@wanadoo.es> > To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:40 PM > Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Bafico family > > > > I am new to this list and would welcome any information relating to the > BAFICO family who have been in Cardiff since approximately 1870. My > g-grandfather Giovanni Battista (John) BAFICO, born in Genoa in 1854, > married Sarah RICHARDS in Cardiff in 1873. One of the witnesses to the > marriage was Frederick MAZZEI. I have lots of information about what John > Bafico did, and his descendants, but would very much like to find out more > about his family in Italy - who they were, and exactly where he came from. > Has anyone come across the name? > > > > Celia Villa-Landa > > > > Helping to put the UK census free on-line. Join us as > http://freecen.rootsweb.com > > > > > >

Hi Celia, just on the remote chance that you haven't looked at this Italian surnames' site before: http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html Bafico is concentrated in Liguria. There are others in, Piemonte, Lombardia, Sardinia and Sicilia. Except for Liguria, they are in single figures, and in Liguria there aren't that many either. Maybe you could contact some of them through the White pages and see if there is a connection? You'd be phoning, and writing forever if you followed the Mazzei names on that site :-) I hope someone can give you more specific information. Good luck with your search. Rod Saunders Anglo-Italian Family History Society AIFHS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html Cassino: Melaragni, Persecchini, Lanna/Lanni, D'Agostino Settesorelle di Vernasca: Dadomo Liverpool & Manchester: Bartolomeo, Tomasso/Tomassio, Capella/Capela, Crolla, Franchelli, Melaragni/Melarangi/Melarange, Dadomo/Dadoma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Celia Villa-Landa" <cfevillalanda@wanadoo.es> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:40 PM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Bafico family > I am new to this list and would welcome any information relating to the BAFICO family who have been in Cardiff since approximately 1870. My g-grandfather Giovanni Battista (John) BAFICO, born in Genoa in 1854, married Sarah RICHARDS in Cardiff in 1873. One of the witnesses to the marriage was Frederick MAZZEI. I have lots of information about what John Bafico did, and his descendants, but would very much like to find out more about his family in Italy - who they were, and exactly where he came from. Has anyone come across the name? > > Celia Villa-Landa > > Helping to put the UK census free on-line. Join us as http://freecen.rootsweb.com > >

I am new to this list and would welcome any information relating to the BAFICO family who have been in Cardiff since approximately 1870. My g-grandfather Giovanni Battista (John) BAFICO, born in Genoa in 1854, married Sarah RICHARDS in Cardiff in 1873. One of the witnesses to the marriage was Frederick MAZZEI. I have lots of information about what John Bafico did, and his descendants, but would very much like to find out more about his family in Italy - who they were, and exactly where he came from. Has anyone come across the name? Celia Villa-Landa Helping to put the UK census free on-line. Join us as http://freecen.rootsweb.com

RG10/4093, folio 176 Angel Hotel, Chapel St, Oldham, Lancashire: Carlo CLERICI, Traveller, (marital status unclear), 20 (could be 28), Scholar, born Italy, Milan A Williams Korky.kat@tiscali.co.uk

Hello list Another entry from a Westminster rate book, 1854: 16 Great Windmill street Parish of St James, Great Marlborough division Occupier from Christmas 1853 is Chas. Giovanni CHIALIS I have a little more information about this address if anyone is interested. Colin Moretti I'm a member of the Anglo-Italian Family History Society http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk Looking for MORETTI, PAGLIANO, BARGMAN, in London TYAS, IVESON, WOOD, ABBOTT in Yorkshire

I have just received this e mail from the 1837 webpage. It might be of interest to those that are trying to find British births abroad. 1837online.com is pleased to announce the launch of new overseas birth, marriage and death records on our website. If your ancestors were born overseas, or perhaps died whilst serving in the armed forces during WW2, or were even married abroad whilst resident within British lines during WW1, then you will find these records useful. Some of the records date back as far as 1761 and include regimental birth indexes, whilst others, such as the GRO Deaths Abroad indexes date up to 1994. In total there are over 1 million new records for you to view. You will also be pleased to note that the overseas records have been indexed by full surname rather than the first three letters of a surname, enabling you to search for records more effectively. http://www.1837online.com/Trace2web/serviceslisting.asp_strareano=2002_16.js p

Having a look today on ebay for two things I spotted two items with Italian links. The first is a painting of Napoli, by F COPPOLA http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20132&item=3742412479&rd=1 The second was a set of 6 glasses wine glasses listed as Nason & Moreetti 'Murano' http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3742901036 I have no connections to either transaction, but even on ebay we can potentially find links to our Italian names! Regards Julie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 20/08/2004

Lucia was married to Charles Reader possibly about 1890. They were living in Capetown South africa in 1895 when William reader was born. I would like to find more about this family if possible please. Thanks Lynne

Hello again Colin, Info on Moretti name for yourself or our fellow listers: Australian War Graves Comm. listing. Frank MORETTI(Aust.born) Lance Corporal Aust. Inf. Serv. No. WX4195 died 12/10/1943 aged 25.Buried B5.D.13 Port Moresby Papua New Guinea ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Moretti" <colin.moretti@tesco.net> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:46 AM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Westminster Rate Books > Hello List > > While inspecting rate books at Westminster Archives I came across the following entries: > > Oxendon street > Silva Vespa, 1795 > G B Schinotti, 1795, 1796 > Dominico Corri, 1800, 1801 > Philip Anthony Corri, 1802 - 1807 > Anna Fano, 1801- 1803 > > St Martins street > Valentino, 1795 - 1798 > > I hope that they are interest to someone > > Colin Moretti > > I'm a member of the Anglo-Italian Family History Society > http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk > > Looking for MORETTI, PAGLIANO, BARGMAN, in London > > TYAS, IVESON, WOOD, ABBOTT in Yorkshire > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Anglo-Italian Mailing List Web Page > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/Italian.htm > > Anglo Italian Family History Society > http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi Colin, some info for you or other member of the Pagliano family. Australian War Graves. PAGLIANO Anton Private No.6133 Died 8/8/1918 Aged 28. Grave No X111.B.7 Villiers-Bretonneux Military Cemetary. Tina in Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Moretti" <colin.moretti@tesco.net> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:46 AM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Westminster Rate Books > Hello List > > While inspecting rate books at Westminster Archives I came across the following entries: > > Oxendon street > Silva Vespa, 1795 > G B Schinotti, 1795, 1796 > Dominico Corri, 1800, 1801 > Philip Anthony Corri, 1802 - 1807 > Anna Fano, 1801- 1803 > > St Martins street > Valentino, 1795 - 1798 > > I hope that they are interest to someone > > Colin Moretti > > I'm a member of the Anglo-Italian Family History Society > http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk > > Looking for MORETTI, PAGLIANO, BARGMAN, in London > > TYAS, IVESON, WOOD, ABBOTT in Yorkshire > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Anglo-Italian Mailing List Web Page > http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/Italian.htm > > Anglo Italian Family History Society > http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ >