Hello Tina & list Tina wrote: <snip> It's a puzzle isn't it why they would both have such English first names. <snip> It's not unknown; with the Italians I'm related to, my 3x g grandfather, born in Venice(?) in about 1775, used the name Joseph when he married in London in 1799. (I don't know when he came here). I presume that he was Giuseppe in Italy. Gioani (sic) Batissta Pagliano was born in Piedmont in 1764, came to London from Italy in 1794 and was recorded as John in the marriage register in 1798 and in rate books from that date although he used Gioani in other documents as late as 1810. Perhaps they used the anglicised version of names for official purposes Colin Moretti I'm a member of the Anglo-Italian Family History Society http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk Looking for MORETTI, PAGLIANO, BARGMAN, in London TYAS, IVESON, WOOD, ABBOTT in Yorkshire

La France de votre Nom De Famille http://www.cartedefrance.tm.fr/ Insert the surname in the search box and a map of France with the areas identified counts of births of the surname in France. Click the dates on the left and see the results change for the years selected. 1891 - 1915 1916 - 1940 1941 - 1965 1966 - 1990 Orlando is represented: 20 occurrences 1891 - 1915 96 occurrences 1916 - 1940 326 occurrences 1941 - 1965 491 occurrences 1966 - 1990 -- Regards, Julie Goucher anglers.rest@virgin.net www.anglers-rest.net www.C-J.org.uk ORLANDO One Name Study ~ GOONS Member 3925 www.orlando-ons.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 27/01/2005

Forwarding! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Lawrence" <lainey_soton@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 2:17 PM Subject: Re: PALTANI Hi I am new to the list and wondered if anyone has any links with me to the following:- My Great Grand-Aunt Bertha Cole born 1867 in Southampton married a Giacomo PALTANI on 21 July 1889 in St James Church Parish of St James Southampton. Giacomo's father on the marriage certificate was Giovanni Batista PALTANI a cook. Bertha and Giacomo had three children (I have found no others as yet) Modesta Louisa born 28.12.1891, Batista Edward born 24.09.1893 and Bertha Marguerite born 14.07.1895. I have no idea how they met or where Giacomo was from etc. Do these names ring any bells with anyone? Best Wishes Elaine --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 27/01/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 27/01/2005

Hi Christine from Tina in WA, 1901 census has Walter FERRINICA b 1870 Italy Brit. subject, Engine driver, 7 Moreton Terrace Frodsham with wife Harriet aged 26 b Ellesmere Port Cheshire. No other family. I hope this is of some help. Cheers Tina ps there was also a family named Ferina living in Liscard in the same census (born UK) -------Original Message------- From: Christine Charles Date: 01/20/05 03:24:38 To: ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Anglo Italian FHS Hi I wonder has anyone heard of a family FERRINIEA from Italy who settle in Cheshire. Walter lived in Frodsham Christine in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs Julie Goucher" <anglers.rest@virgin.net> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:17 AM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Anglo Italian FHS > The Winter edition of Italian Roots is now available to members > of the Anglo Italian FHS via the members site on Yahoo. > > If anyone is having difficulty in accessing the journal or the members > site please email me for assistance with your membership number. > > Enjoy! > > -- > Regards, > Julie Goucher > anglers.rest@virgin.net > Vice Chair Anglo Italian FHS > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 17/01/2005 > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Anglo Italian Family History Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== Search Archives http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=ANGLO-ITALIAN Browse Archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ANGLO-ITALIAN/ Anglo Italian Family History Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Patricia, if you go to the Anglo-Italian Family History Society's website http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html and type Galli in the search engine, quite a few references for Galli come up, as well as Calli, Galley and other near spellings, in the pdf censuses that are on the site. The 1881 pdfs don't list occupations, but the 1851 does and the occupations of the few Gallis and Galleys that are listed are looking glass makers, Barometer makers etc. Rod Saunders ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lindsley, Patricia" <PLindsley@buckscc.gov.uk> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 3:25 PM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] RE: VISCARDINI > To John M Bolton Member 128/J > > With reference to your article in the Winter Journal. You mention > fourteen > male Looking Glass Frame Makers. I am looking for GALEY/GAILY. Did you > find > any variants of those names? Perhaps with a spelling of GALLI? > > Many thanks > > Patricia Lindsley

To John M Bolton Member 128/J With reference to your article in the Winter Journal. You mention fourteen male Looking Glass Frame Makers. I am looking for GALEY/GAILY. Did you find any variants of those names? Perhaps with a spelling of GALLI? Many thanks Patricia Lindsley > -----Original Message----- > From: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ANGLO-ITALIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com] > Sent: 27 January 2005 07:00 > To: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: ANGLO-ITALIAN-D Digest V05 #12 > > << Message: Untitled Attachment >> << Message: Fw: Italian Church Holborn > >> Visit our Web Site : http://www.buckscc.gov.uk **** Buckinghamshire County Council E-mail Disclaimer ******** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, the use of the information by disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager at postmaster@buckscc.gov.uk This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for content and for the presence of computer viruses. **** End of Disclaimer ***************************************

Forwarded! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niall & Alison Taylor" <windyridge@beeb.net> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:31 PM Subject: Italian Church Holborn Hello I'm new to the list and was wondering if anyone can help me. My g. g. grandmother HANNAH KNIGHT married JOHN LYNCH by Certificate, at the Italian Church, Hatton Wall in Holborn, London in 1878. My grandmother HELENA SABRINA LYNCH was born in 1880. Would there have been a reason for choosing this particular church? Because as far as I know we have no Italian connections in the family. Hannah Knights father ALFRED KNIGHT was a Broker, Johns Lynchs father TIMOTHY LYNCH was a Market Porter. I would be most grateful if anyone can help. Thankyou Alison -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 25/01/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 25/01/2005

Hi everyone, this url to the Anglo-Italian Family History Website no longer works: http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk/ Please use and bookmark this url http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html to access the site. Rod Saunders AIFHS

>I want to renew my subscription, but can only find a form inviting me to >join as a new member. >Please help!!! Hello Joan, A renewal sheet is going out with the January Journal, some are obviously still in the mail system. If you are a email member the renewal notice available from the Yahoo members group. However, if anyone does have problems please email me at sp.goucher@virgin.net and I will email one as a PDF attachment. (Joan, I will send you one off list!) --- Regards, Stuart Goucher membership@anglo-italianfhs.org.uk Membership Secretary Anglo Italian FHS Anglo Italian Family History Society www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005

Apologies for the last posting, it was suppose to be sent to a member who has just renewed. However, as I made a mess of it, I shall tout for new members! You can join the Society by downloading the form from the web page http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html or via our stand at the parish Chest - http://www.parishchest.com --- Regards, Stuart Goucher membership@anglo-italianfhs.org.uk Membership Secretary Anglo Italian FHS Anglo Italian Family History Society www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005

Just to confirm reciept of your renewal. This now takes your membership up to 31st March 2006 Thank you for your continuing support of the Anglo Italian FHS. --- Regards, Stuart Goucher membership@anglo-italianfhs.org.uk Membership Secretary Anglo Italian FHS Anglo Italian Family History Society www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005

Hi I wonder has anyone heard of a family FERRINIEA from Italy who settle in Cheshire. Walter lived in Frodsham Christine in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs Julie Goucher" <anglers.rest@virgin.net> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:17 AM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Anglo Italian FHS > The Winter edition of Italian Roots is now available to members > of the Anglo Italian FHS via the members site on Yahoo. > > If anyone is having difficulty in accessing the journal or the members > site please email me for assistance with your membership number. > > Enjoy! > > -- > Regards, > Julie Goucher > anglers.rest@virgin.net > Vice Chair Anglo Italian FHS > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 17/01/2005 > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Anglo Italian Family History Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

The Winter edition of Italian Roots is now available to members of the Anglo Italian FHS via the members site on Yahoo. If anyone is having difficulty in accessing the journal or the members site please email me for assistance with your membership number. Enjoy! -- Regards, Julie Goucher anglers.rest@virgin.net Vice Chair Anglo Italian FHS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 17/01/2005

Thanks for info about forthcoming FH fairs. I do hope to attend on Saturday at E. London Fair. Hope to see you all. Jasmine Belloni

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros" <Rafnson@tesco.net> To: <anglo-italian-admin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:36 AM Subject: re baptism From the baptismal registers of St.Chad's, Cheetham, Manchester (formerly Rook Street church) Baptised July 22 1845 Mary Luisa Coffrini, daughter of Joseph and Harriet (Wilkinson) Coffrini. Godparents Michael Spinett and Ellen Pollard Ros Rafnson Researching Spinett/Spinetto in Vignola Italy, Manchester & Shropshire Mulvy/Mulvey in Ireland & Manchester -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005

RG10/4217, folio 151 Lane Ends, Ashton, Preston, Lancashire: Louis PICKETT, Head, Married, 55, Hawker, born Italy, Genoa (Naturalised British Subject) Sarah, Wife, Married, 48, Hawker's Wife, born Staffordshire, Dudley Lawrence, Son, Married, 24, Hawker's Son, born Staffordshire, ****ampton Elizabeth, Daughter In Law, Married, 25, Hawker's Daughter In Law, born Surrey, Horsell A Williams Bashstreetkid@lycos.co.uk

The Anglo-Italian FHS have booked stands at the following Family History Fairs. If you visit any of these fairs please make sure you call at our stand and make yourself known. SATURDAY 22 January East of London Family History Fair Queen Mary College (University of London) Bancroft Road Mile End London E .1 The venue is within a short walking distance of Stepney Green station. Admission is £2.00. the fair is open 10 am to 5 pm. The advertiisement promises that there will be 200 stands and that as this year celebrated the 2ooth anniversary of Nelson's victory at Trafalgar there will be a nautical theme to the fair. SUNDAY January 30 2005 The Bracknell Family History fair Bracknell Sports Centre Bagshot Road (A32) Bracknell Berks There is a large free car park. refreshments available The fair is open 10 am to 5 pm There should be over 200 stands acoording to advanced publicity. The AIFHS is also arranging to have stands at Crawley and Bath in February. Further details in due course. Please contact Kay Lorenzato (kaylorenzato@hotmail.com) for more information

The Carlisle Patriot, Friday, December 20, 1844, News INGENIOUS SWINDLE. M. SPINELLI, jeweller, Place-de la Bourse, was lately tricked out of a suite of diamonds in the following way: Two Piedmontese, one calling himself the Chevalier GIORDANO, aged 28, and the other about 20, who acted as his servant, took up their quarters at the Hotel d'Amiens. The Chevalier having spoken to the proprietor about his wishes to purchase a suite of diamonds, and to exchange 25,000f. in Italian pieces of gold and French Napoleons for other money, was recommended by him to M. SPINELLI. The diamonds were exhibited and the price agreed on, but the exchange of the gold was refused. The Chevalier requested the jeweller to accompany him to his hotel with the jewels, and said that the money should be paid down. This M. SPINELLI consented to do, and on the party entering the Chevalier's apartment, he ordered his servant to bring a bottle of champagne. The jeweller refusing positively to partake of it, the servant was ordered to bring out a case in which was deposited the money to pay for the diamonds. The case was immediately produced, but the key was not forthcoming. The man went into a closet to seek it, and the Chevalier, carelessly taking up the jewels, placed them in the drawer of a commode, which he closed. As the servant delayed coming with the key, the chevalier followed him, and M. SPINELLI, after a few seconds getting uneasy, also entered the closet, which, to his surprise, he found empty. He hastily returned into the room, and opening the drawer, discovered that it was empty, and that the light could be seen from the other side. The wall had, in fact, been cut through, and the diamonds were thus at the mercy of the two swindlers. In the case left upon the table, nothing was found but a stone.-------- 'Galignani'. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 12/01/2005

----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley-Anne Iremonger" <shirleyanne@videotron.ca> To: <ANGLO-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} TIBERI Research I wondered if SKS could please help me. My great grandfather, Francisco TIBERI (born in Italy ) in 1857 was married to Secontina NANNI (born in Italy) 1858. Francisco and Secontina were married in Italy around 1882. It seems they were in England when my grandfather was born in 1891. The story I have been told is that my grandfather was born in England but was not registered there. Francisco and Secontina waited until they returned to Italy where my grandfather, Giulio TIBERI, was registered as born in Magliano Dei Marsi Province DeL'Aquila, Italy in 1891. I want to follow this line of my family, but don't know how to proceed. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance. >From cold Montreal, Quebec, Canada Shirley-Anne shirleyanne@videotron.ca Shirley-Anne shirleyanne@videotron.ca iremonger64@hotmail.com shirleyanneiremonger@yahoo.ca -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 12/01/2005

I wonder if any member has had experience in, and therefore can give me advice on, researching records in the Naples Archives - either in person or by post. (My mother's ancestors - surname MASTROMO - came from the Mercato district of Naples which has not been filmed by the LDS.) With thanks for your help. Rita