Will do. Aileen

Hi Su The more recent the easiest it is for them. The e mail for the ufficio di stato civile in Morfasso is [email protected] You can also try writing to the Archivio di Stato di Piacenza Piazza Citadella 29 Palazzo Faranese Piacenza 29100 the e mail:[email protected] This is where I got the 1850 documenti. If you write there ask for the estratti which are the handwritten accounts of any event such as birth , publication of bans preceeding a wedding , and military service records Felicia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Su Baccino" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] New Subscriber > Thanks Felicia. Any earliest or latest date? eg someone born in 1938, would > they help with that? > Su > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Felicia Cocking <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] New Subscriber > > > > Hi Su > > > > The very minimum you must have is a date and place of birth and the > names > > of both parents (maiden name of the mother) > > Felicia > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Su Baccino" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 7:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] New Subscriber > > > > > > > Hello Felicia > > > How much information does one have to give to the Ufficio di Stato > Civile? > > > Su > > > London > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Rod Saunders <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 9:26 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] New Subscriber > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Felicia Cocking wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > Settesorelle di Vernasca is a small hamlet in the commune di > Morfasso > > > > > (Piacenza) My granfmother Giuseppa Micheli Sartori was from that > > hamlet. > > > > > She was born in 1881. You may want to send for information at the > > > Ufficio > > > > > di Stato Civile > > > > > Via Roma > > > > > Morfasso 29020 > > > > > I got records dating back to 1845 > > > > > Good Luck > > > > > Felicia > > > > > > > > Thanks Felicia, I'll give it a try. > > > > > > > > Rod > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > > > > Italian Research > > > > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > > > Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History > > > At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at > > > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > > Italian Research > > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

It would be wonderful if you could make a copy of the index. If you have time and can do this it would be a great help could you please send a copy afterwards to Elaine or Ruth at [email protected] Best wishes Ruth (Transcriptions AIFHS) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 7:34 PM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Liverpool Italians > I've ordered the 1871 census fiches from the PRO, covering the Islington area > (part of which was known as 'Little Italy' ) - in order to search for my > missing Ferrie or Ferri rellies. Unfortunately, they will take approx 4 > weeks to come from the PRO, but I'm quite willing to do lookups when I get > the fiches - unfortunately, there isn't a surname or address index for the > 1871 Liverpool census, and there are 21 fiches, so if anyone wants lookups, > please give as much info as possible, or I won't be able to do the lookup! I > thought that if time allows in the future, I might index all the persons of > Italian birth on these fiches - would this be of help? > A Williams > [email protected] > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks Felicia. Any earliest or latest date? eg someone born in 1938, would they help with that? Su ----- Original Message ----- From: Felicia Cocking <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] New Subscriber > Hi Su > > The very minimum you must have is a date and place of birth and the names > of both parents (maiden name of the mother) > Felicia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Su Baccino" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 7:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] New Subscriber > > > > Hello Felicia > > How much information does one have to give to the Ufficio di Stato Civile? > > Su > > London > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Rod Saunders <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 9:26 AM > > Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] New Subscriber > > > > > > > > > > Felicia Cocking wrote: > > > > > > > Hi > > > > Settesorelle di Vernasca is a small hamlet in the commune di Morfasso > > > > (Piacenza) My granfmother Giuseppa Micheli Sartori was from that > hamlet. > > > > She was born in 1881. You may want to send for information at the > > Ufficio > > > > di Stato Civile > > > > Via Roma > > > > Morfasso 29020 > > > > I got records dating back to 1845 > > > > Good Luck > > > > Felicia > > > > > > Thanks Felicia, I'll give it a try. > > > > > > Rod > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > > > Italian Research > > > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > > Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History > > At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at > > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I've ordered the 1871 census fiches from the PRO, covering the Islington area (part of which was known as 'Little Italy' ) - in order to search for my missing Ferrie or Ferri rellies. Unfortunately, they will take approx 4 weeks to come from the PRO, but I'm quite willing to do lookups when I get the fiches - unfortunately, there isn't a surname or address index for the 1871 Liverpool census, and there are 21 fiches, so if anyone wants lookups, please give as much info as possible, or I won't be able to do the lookup! I thought that if time allows in the future, I might index all the persons of Italian birth on these fiches - would this be of help? A Williams [email protected]

Hi Elaine and thanks a million for the site address! All the best.....mary lou

Hello Felicia How much information does one have to give to the Ufficio di Stato Civile? Su London ----- Original Message ----- From: Rod Saunders <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] New Subscriber > > Felicia Cocking wrote: > > > Hi > > Settesorelle di Vernasca is a small hamlet in the commune di Morfasso > > (Piacenza) My granfmother Giuseppa Micheli Sartori was from that hamlet. > > She was born in 1881. You may want to send for information at the Ufficio > > di Stato Civile > > Via Roma > > Morfasso 29020 > > I got records dating back to 1845 > > Good Luck > > Felicia > > Thanks Felicia, I'll give it a try. > > Rod > [email protected] > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I've just visited the http://gens.labo.net website and am surprised to find that there are people with the name LAWS in Liguria. My LAWS are all in Mid-Norfolk, UK, with a small branch in Melbourne, Australia. Can anyone tell me more about the LAWS in Liguria? Su London

Hi Su The very minimum you must have is a date and place of birth and the names of both parents (maiden name of the mother) Felicia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Su Baccino" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] New Subscriber > Hello Felicia > How much information does one have to give to the Ufficio di Stato Civile? > Su > London > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rod Saunders <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] New Subscriber > > > > > > Felicia Cocking wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > Settesorelle di Vernasca is a small hamlet in the commune di Morfasso > > > (Piacenza) My granfmother Giuseppa Micheli Sartori was from that hamlet. > > > She was born in 1881. You may want to send for information at the > Ufficio > > > di Stato Civile > > > Via Roma > > > Morfasso 29020 > > > I got records dating back to 1845 > > > Good Luck > > > Felicia > > > > Thanks Felicia, I'll give it a try. > > > > Rod > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > > Italian Research > > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History > At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Mary Lou, the site you want is http://gens.labo.net. Good luck, Elaine > Hi.....last week or so someone posted a website showing the distribution of > surnames throughout the world. Now that I need it of course........don't > have it! Can someone send it over, please. > > Thanks.....mary lou sun valley, id usa > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

If one writes to an 'Ufficio di Stato Civile' for information, what information might you be asking for? And does the request have to be in Italian? And where do you get the address for the Ufficio do Stato Civile? I'm a bit clueless as to how to go about this. Thanks, Maggie (in Vancouver)

Felicia Cocking wrote: > Hi > Settesorelle di Vernasca is a small hamlet in the commune di Morfasso > (Piacenza) My granfmother Giuseppa Micheli Sartori was from that hamlet. > She was born in 1881. You may want to send for information at the Ufficio > di Stato Civile > Via Roma > Morfasso 29020 > I got records dating back to 1845 > Good Luck > Felicia Thanks Felicia, I'll give it a try. Rod [email protected]

If by chance any of your ancestors immigrated to the US, specifically the Barre, Vermont area for the granite industry, you might want to take a look at the following site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VERMONTLATEST.html I have copied the 1905 Barre City Directory and it has been posted on this website in 10 installments. Scroll down through list and the first one you will see is V-Z - the beginning will be at the very bottom. Many, many Italians immigrated to this area to work in the granite sheds and many were sculptors.

Hello everyone, my Italian ancestors, as far I as know, started coming to Britain in the 1880s. I hope someone recognizes some names below. Here's my web page with the Italian connection: Rod [email protected] <http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~rodsaunders> Cassino: Melaragni, Persechini, Lanna/Lanni, D'Agostino. Settesorelle di Vernasca: Dadomo. Tomassio?

Hi Settesorelle di Vernasca is a small hamlet in the commune di Morfasso (Piacenza) My granfmother Giuseppa Micheli Sartori was from that hamlet. She was born in 1881. You may want to send for information at the Ufficio di Stato Civile Via Roma Morfasso 29020 I got records dating back to 1845 Good Luck Felicia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rodney Saunders" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] New Subscriber > Hello everyone, my Italian ancestors, as far I as know, started coming > to > Britain in the 1880s. I hope someone recognizes some names below. > > Here's my web page with the Italian connection: > > Rod > [email protected] > <http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~rodsaunders> > Cassino: Melaragni, Persechini, Lanna/Lanni, D'Agostino. > Settesorelle di Vernasca: Dadomo. > Tomassio? > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History > At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi.....last week or so someone posted a website showing the distribution of surnames throughout the world. Now that I need it of course........don't have it! Can someone send it over, please. Thanks.....mary lou sun valley, id usa

My Italian ancestor was my paternal grandmother's father, who died aged 38 or so in 1918 as a result of mustard gas in WW1. So, born about 1880 - where? His family lived at somewhere apparently called Waterdawn (sic) Manor in or around Purley, Surrey. The family came from Naples, possibly Casserta. He eloped with my greatgrandmother - Sarah Emilia ? (who's own mother was Spanish) who was a maid and was disinherited by his family. My Grandmother was taken as small child to visit her aunts - so, siblings and descendants? He was subsequently known as Francis John Villas. We now think this may have been because the Vicar who married them couldn't spell Villiers (which doesn't sound Italian - perhaps someone could enlighten me?) I initially thought it may have been an anglicisation. I know that Francis and Sarah were very poor and my Grandmother was born in Peabody Buildings (the charitable housing trust), and on her marriage certificate (1926) he's noted as a Builder (dec'd). The family by then were living in Bevenden Street, London. If this rings any bells with anyone, please let me know. Many thanks and best wishes to you all with your research. Hille Cook

----- Original Message ----- From: "John de M Wellborne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 6:10 AM Subject: RE CATANIA Greetings All, I am looking for the surname CATANIA........... I believe that they were originally from Italy, and went to India in the early 1800's where were muscians to the Nawabs, and in the Indian Civil Service. The earliest ancestor that I have is GG/father x3, George CATANIA (brn circa 1779, Died 1852, in Malta He appears to have been succeded by a 100 years of CATANIAS, living and working in British India. Great grandmother STANYON witnessed and recorded for posterity,the first bloody hours of the 1857 Indian Mutiny. Her daughter, and two granddaughters married military officers, one was to receive the VC for action in Somaliland,1902. and the other,my grandfather, OBE,CIE,KPM, etc, for service in Mesopotania (WW1) and as Inspector General of Police, Burma, till 1939...... Its along shot but who knows?? If you do please contact me on............ [email protected] Cheers John Sydney Australia. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 2002-19-Apr

Welcome to all the new members; we now have 100 members. Which is brilliant as we are a few months old and I appreciate the support that has been, not only for the list, but also for the formation of a Society. For the benefit of the new subscribers, we are having the Inaugural meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History Society at the SOG fair on Sat 4th May 2002, we are meeting at 3pm in the bar! Membership forms are available. If you would like one in advance of the meeting please email [email protected] and one will be sent to you as an attachment. Please let Elaine ([email protected]) know if you are intending to attend the meeting. Look forward to seeing those of you who can make the it. Regards Julie Goucher, List Owner Anglers Rest Indexes http://freespace.virgin.net/ar.indexes Anglers Rest Home Page http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Index.htm C J http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections C J Genealogy http://www.dreamwater.net/genealogy/Index.htm FreeCEN Surrey 1891 http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/freecen.htm Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 One Name Study ORLANDO GOONS Registered --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 2002-19-Apr

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pierre-Marie Belbenoit-Avich" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] AVICH or AVICO surname Hello everybody, I am looking for the AVICH or AVICO surnames likely in the West of Scotland thanks for any help, Pierre Marie Belbenoit-Avich --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 2002-19-Apr