Hi Diane, in the census I think anything is possible. Imagine illiterate people who may speak very little English and be suspicious of these snooping enumerators, and the exasperated enumerators, desperate to get out of the cramped, overcrowded buildings, can't really make themselves understood, doing their best to transcribe phonetically what they hear, which may or may not be a name anyway. And as I think someone else pointed out, Italians may have been inclined to give surnames first, so they may be listed under their Christian names. If other clues fit - ages, shape of family group etc - I think you have to take the most unlikely of apparent 'corruptions's of names very seriously. Best wishes, Elaine > Hello Listers, In an act of desperation, I'm asking if anyone on the list > can possibly see the name EROTTI as a corruption of MAROTTA, or vice versa! > I know, a very long shot, but one has to try. Perhaps with the English > interpretation of the name! > > There are people by the name of ERROTTI living in Naples now, - haven't > heard back from my enquiry and that has been discussed on the list, however, > I'm trying to think a little bit laterally. > > It could be that the family came into England around 1858 and I'm wondering > if, by the 1881 Census, the interpretation of the name had got to > MAROTTA?????????? > > > I've tried putting each of the vowels in front of the name, but my > inclination is to believe that the name ERROTTI is correct. But, it doesn't > solve the question of where the family are according to Census records. > > Any further suggestions please? > > Diane > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks Elaine, I hadn't thought about looking under the given names. The only two I have are my ggm's and her father's which appear on her marriage certificates. It's a good hint - thanks for your time and thought into my query. Cheers, Diane -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Collins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 12:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] MAROTTA Hi Diane, in the census I think anything is possible. Imagine illiterate people who may speak very little English and be suspicious of these snooping enumerators, and the exasperated enumerators, desperate to get out of the cramped, overcrowded buildings, can't really make themselves understood, doing their best to transcribe phonetically what they hear, which may or may not be a name anyway. And as I think someone else pointed out, Italians may have been inclined to give surnames first, so they may be listed under their Christian names. If other clues fit - ages, shape of family group etc - I think you have to take the most unlikely of apparent 'corruptions's of names very seriously. Best wishes, Elaine > Hello Listers, In an act of desperation, I'm asking if anyone on the list > can possibly see the name EROTTI as a corruption of MAROTTA, or vice versa! > I know, a very long shot, but one has to try. Perhaps with the English > interpretation of the name! > > There are people by the name of ERROTTI living in Naples now, - haven't > heard back from my enquiry and that has been discussed on the list, however, > I'm trying to think a little bit laterally. > > It could be that the family came into England around 1858 and I'm wondering > if, by the 1881 Census, the interpretation of the name had got to > MAROTTA?????????? > > > I've tried putting each of the vowels in front of the name, but my > inclination is to believe that the name ERROTTI is correct. But, it doesn't > solve the question of where the family are according to Census records. > > Any further suggestions please? > > Diane > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== Italian Research http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello Rod, didn't want you to get confused (my own confusion is enough for the List, believe me when it come to variants etc., of names!). Anywya, just wanted to let you know the names I posted were from Devon, 1881 Census. Cheers, Diane -----Original Message----- From: Rod Saunders [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 2:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Re: Liverpool's Little Italy Thanks for all the information about Liverpool's 'Little Italy'. Amazing! Rod Cassino: Melaragni, Persechini, Lanna/Lanni, D'Agostino. Settesorelle di Vernasca: Dadomo. Tomassio? ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello Daphne, I really appreciate you taking the time to give me some suggestions. I've gone over the name EROTY/EROTTI (the two versions I have that are similar) and then I have a certificate where it looks like ERUTH, which is quite different. To date I haven't found the name on any Census. I am trying to find a source to purchase the 1861 Clerkenwell Census fiche to go through that just in case the family did settle in that area where I'm told many Italians did go. The only documentation I have are ggmother's two marriage certificates (she survived two husbands) and the birth certificates for her 7 children. I see your point about loosing the M from MAROTTA and variants, your idea sounds quite right too. I have checked a couple of variants beginning with A or AI and your other A(y)....... suggestions looks like a good one to keep an eye open for. This is just the kind of infomration I need too, for someone else to give an idea of how they interpret the name through pronouncing it. I've tried it so many times but I lost my true English accent a long time ago and now I mostly have an Australian accent (where my family immigrated too when I was 5 yrs old). I now live in Canada and my children, when I speak with them on the phone tell me I'm loosing my Aussie accent. So, the use of vowels in speech for me is somewhat mixed up, none of which give me much idea how an Englishman of the 1850's - 1860's would say the name! The first time ggm appears in the census is after she is married and she had given London as her place of birth. No, I don't have any reason to hone in on the variation of MAROTTA. I just saw it in the list of the Italians in Devon, where my ggm married and lived her life out. The modern day ERROTTI's are 3 living around Naples. I'm hoping one will answer my letters but as discussed on the list, it may not happen. So, Daphne, the search goes on and I do thank you for your time and suggestions. I'd be happy to hear of any more. Cheers, Diane -----Original Message----- From: Daphne Dashfield [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 4:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] MAROTTA > Hello Listers, In an act of desperation, I'm asking if anyone on the list > can possibly see the name EROTTI as a corruption of MAROTTA, or vice versa! I think you have to think of handwriting interpretations (of the transcriber) when you look at census indexes as well as phonetic spelling (including using letter names as sounds) used by the census enumerator. I suppose "Um, EROTTI" could just become MAROTTE which could be mistranscribed as MAROTTA. However I can't see how "M" could be lost from MAROTTA. Unless they were thought to say Um, Ah-rowt-tah - except it would have to be A(y)ro(w)tte(e) to make Erotti (hope I got the vowels right). I can see how my family's name GHIRARDANI became GERADINE and even with a census transcription error and a poor enumerator, GLARINI ("e" replaced by "l by the transcriber) but "M" is a large letter not easily lost. EROTTI could become AROTE or even AYWROTEY?! Do you have any events such as baptism or marriage near 1881 to give possible addresses? That's how I found my gg grandfather and remaining family masquerading as a GLARINI in Bakers Row, Clerkenwell in the 1881 index . I've yet to view the film of the original census notebook which I suspect is GEARINI. I don't think that enumerator had a good ear for Italian names/spelling (I have another example of a relative in the same street) and I know my gg grandfather couldn't sign his name at my g grandfather's marriage in 1876 so he wouldn't be able to help much. At least some priests could spell! Is there a particular reason why it might be Marotta? I've lost track of where EROTTI came from now. Daphne Dashfield (Geradine) GHIRADANI + ~15 spelling variations ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Okay Ruth, shall I send them to you only, or to the List in general? Diane -----Original Message----- From: Ruth [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 12:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Italians in Plymouth, Devon Diane, I am going to keep a copy of these names as all being well we will be preparing a database with Names and the information that we all come across in our searches. If you find any more please send them to me. Ruth (transcriptions ALFHS) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Webb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 3:07 AM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Italians in Plymouth, Devon > Hello Listers, I was browsing my 1881 Census and found a few Italians in > Devon. Hope the list below gives some clues. I can do a full lookup for > anyone if they like! Diane > > Dwelling: 91 King St West > Census Place: Plymouth St Andrew, Devon, England > Source: FHL Film 1341528 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2195 Folio 12 Page > 20 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Antonio CARPENNIE M 47 M (F), Italy > Rel: Head > Occ: Musician > Hannah CARPENNIE M 50 F Plymouth > Rel: Wife > Occ: Musician > Frank CARPENNIE U 13 M Plymouth > Rel: Son > Occ: Musician > > Dwelling: 89 King St West > Census Place: Plymouth St Andrew, Devon, England > Source: FHL Film 1341528 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2195 Folio 13 Page > 22 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John Hy. KESSELL M 26 M Lostwithiel > Rel: Head > Occ: Hawker > Mary Ann KESSELL M 23 F St Budeaux > Rel: Wife > John Hy. KESSELL U 3 M Plymouth > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Mary E. KESSEL U 1 F Plymouth > Rel: Daur > Antonio BERTSHIOIS U 30 M Italy > Occ: Figurista > Demetrio CAPRONE U 30 M Italy > Occ: Figurista > Vittorio CARDOSI U 19 M Italy > Occ: Figurista > Giovanni CUCHINA U 24 M Italy > Occ: Figurista > Sinachellibo BACHINO U 18 M Italy > Occ: Figurista > Antonio MOTRONIO U 18 M Italy > Occ: Figurista > > ZANOZZI, John Lodg <1820> Birth: Ital > Census: Devo Plymouth St Andrew > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

That's great, thanks for letting me know Kevin. Diane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 2:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] apologies 1881 Census East London file Diane, They came through to the List OK. Kevin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Webb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:18 AM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] apologies 1881 Census East London file > As a matter of routine, my own message, with the Italians of East London > 1881 Census, came back to me and I see that it didn't copy correctly. > > I'm sorry if this has caused any problems. > > I'll wait for further advice before trying again and to see if it's okay for > me to do this anyway! > > Cheers, Diane > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History > At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Rod A quick Google search (Liverpool islington "little italy") reveals a little more about "Little Italy" in Liverpool.: "...Gianelli...fish and chip shop on the corner of Christian Street and Islington Place." "A steady flow of Italian immigrants arrived in Liverpool between 1880 and 1912, and settled in the cobbled side streets on the eastern side of Byrom Street. A census report for 1891, reveals that there were a significant number of Italians living in Gerard Street, Hunter Street, Lionel Street and Whale Street. The growth of the community was very distinctive and by 1913, it was estimated that there were in excess of 400 Italian-born settlers in the tiny cluster of streets which by then had become affectionately known to local residents as 'Little Italy' " http://www.scottiepress.org.uk/tcooke/tcooke.htm "The 'Scottie Press' is Britain's longest running and award winning community newspaper, serving the Scotland Road and Vauxhall Road areas of Liverpool for 30 successful years." More of the same from the home page of that site ("Italy's little empire in the heart of Liverpool") Might be useful to add to links on our website under "Liverpool"? Daphne > By the way, in a previous post you said the 'Little Italy' in Liverpool was > in Islington. Do you have any more info about it? > > My grandparents, mother, aunts and uncles lived in and around Mill Street > and > Kimberely Street, Liverpool 8. > > Rod

As a matter of routine, my own message, with the Italians of East London 1881 Census, came back to me and I see that it didn't copy correctly. I'm sorry if this has caused any problems. I'll wait for further advice before trying again and to see if it's okay for me to do this anyway! Cheers, Diane

Hello Listers, In an act of desperation, I'm asking if anyone on the list can possibly see the name EROTTI as a corruption of MAROTTA, or vice versa! I know, a very long shot, but one has to try. Perhaps with the English interpretation of the name! There are people by the name of ERROTTI living in Naples now, - haven't heard back from my enquiry and that has been discussed on the list, however, I'm trying to think a little bit laterally. It could be that the family came into England around 1858 and I'm wondering if, by the 1881 Census, the interpretation of the name had got to MAROTTA?????????? I've tried putting each of the vowels in front of the name, but my inclination is to believe that the name ERROTTI is correct. But, it doesn't solve the question of where the family are according to Census records. Any further suggestions please? Diane

Hello Listers, I was browsing my 1881 Census and found a few Italians in Devon. Hope the list below gives some clues. I can do a full lookup for anyone if they like! Diane Dwelling: 91 King St West Census Place: Plymouth St Andrew, Devon, England Source: FHL Film 1341528 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2195 Folio 12 Page 20 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Antonio CARPENNIE M 47 M (F), Italy Rel: Head Occ: Musician Hannah CARPENNIE M 50 F Plymouth Rel: Wife Occ: Musician Frank CARPENNIE U 13 M Plymouth Rel: Son Occ: Musician Dwelling: 89 King St West Census Place: Plymouth St Andrew, Devon, England Source: FHL Film 1341528 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2195 Folio 13 Page 22 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John Hy. KESSELL M 26 M Lostwithiel Rel: Head Occ: Hawker Mary Ann KESSELL M 23 F St Budeaux Rel: Wife John Hy. KESSELL U 3 M Plymouth Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Mary E. KESSEL U 1 F Plymouth Rel: Daur Antonio BERTSHIOIS U 30 M Italy Occ: Figurista Demetrio CAPRONE U 30 M Italy Occ: Figurista Vittorio CARDOSI U 19 M Italy Occ: Figurista Giovanni CUCHINA U 24 M Italy Occ: Figurista Sinachellibo BACHINO U 18 M Italy Occ: Figurista Antonio MOTRONIO U 18 M Italy Occ: Figurista ZANOZZI, John Lodg <1820> Birth: Ital Census: Devo Plymouth St Andrew

Many many thanks to the person who gave the link to this fab website: www.scottipress.org.uk, which is all about the Vauxhall/Islington areas of Liverpool, and which has a section about Little Italy (and a photo of the street where my great-uncle lived - the Gods are good today!!). The following message was posted on the site, which might be of interest to some listers: "To acknowledge what was to be called 'Scotland Road's Little Italy' the Vauxhall History & Heritage Group has instigated efforts to have a plaque designed, made and unveiled to'SCOTLAND ROAD' S - LITTLE ITALY'. In order to ensure that this plaque can pay tribute to the valuable contribution that 'Little Italy' made to the history & heritage of Scotland Road the Vauxhall History & Heritage Group wish to involve all residents of 'Little Italy's former community and their relatives. The Group also wishes to make contact with members of former Italian communities in Great Britain and across the world - America, Australia, Canada - and indeed with Italian communities still in existence. Hopefully the plaque project can reunite these communities with a shared interest in appreciation of their history & heritage. If you can help spread the word and if you can help with any form of support the Vauxhall History & Heritage will be very grateful". A Williams [email protected]

I'll certainly do so! Aileen

Hello Listers, Can anyone tell me where I may be able to purchase the 1861 Census fiche for Clerkenwell? Once received, I would be happy to transcribe this for the List. I am hoping to find my family. Cheers, Diane -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Collins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 3:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Anglo-Italian] Urgent Help Required Please! Hi Rod, I think there's some misunderstanding: It's London's Little Italy which was in Clerkenwell, which is now part of the London Borough of Islington, though previously it was part of the Holborn registration district, and became part of Finsbury registration district when it was created around the end 19th/early 20th century. Terri Colpi only identifies areas as Little Italy in Manchester and London, though says "in Liverpool there was a Colony of Sicilini most of whom were importers of fruit and who lived near the docks.' This refers to around 1927. She also mentions a Fascio at Brunswick Street, Liverpool, in the 1930s, which suggests there may have been a concentration of Italians around there. She also mentions a strong Southern Italian, and particularly Sicilian, presence among Liverpool Italians. Also there was an Italian Consulate in Liverpool (and many people used Liverpool as the port to set off for America), though I think the community was never more than a few hundred strong. Best wishes, Elaine >> Can someone please remind me of the Email address for list admin please? >> Thanks >> A Williams >> [email protected] >> > > > > Hello, > > [email protected] > > By the way, in a previous post you said the 'Little Italy' in Liverpool was > in Islington. Do you have any more info about it? > > My grandparents, mother, aunts and uncles lived in and around Mill Street > and > Kimberely Street, Liverpool 8. > > Rod > [email protected] > Cassino: Melaragni, Persechini, Lanna/Lanni, D'Agostino. > Settesorelle di Vernasca: Dadomo. > Tomassio? > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== Italian Research http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Mrs. Carol Treetops, now we are waiting for your APOLOGIES for the defamations, and slanders you have just posted to the List! We are Italians, and we have openly introduced ourselves to the List, showing who we are, and what is our contribution, and availability to Help, Inform, and Serve the needs of members of the List, giving also Link to our Italian Project 2002 Web Site, containing A LOT o FREE Help and Information, and also Services to DO Genealogical Researches and Translations! About such "worried list member" you spoke about, please, show to us, and to the List his/her name, and we will be Very Glad to show you, and the List The Truth about it! You know very well Italian Genealogical Researches take time to accomplish! There is not a "time out", and we are here, we are not disappeared - so to such "worried list member", if really exist, we say to show openly his/her "worries" to the List, and to us", and we are Very Glad to answer, and explain EVERYTHING! But, please, STOP to use such "sneaky" ways... and speak openly and frankly!!! We are very disappointed from your wrong action: you should have contacted us privately, and have discussed the matter with us, and to check if such "worried list member" was saying The Truth or not, instead to spread defamations, and slanders against us to the List! But since you did so, we had to reply you on the List, to defend ourselves from such defamations and slanders! Sincerely, Carlo and Davide Tognoni =========================================== > > ______________________________ > Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 23:34:39 +0100 > From: "Carol, TreeTops" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Anglo-Italian] List Admin - Please read. > > Hi all, > > Apologies for the recent posting that managed to sneak through to the list > from > Carlo and Davide Tognonire re:The "ITALIAN PROJECT 2002" > > Julie and I have discussed this posting after receiving a message from a > worried list member who had dealings with this pair last year and is still > $30 out of pocket. > > Please if you wish to contact this couple be very wary as we cannot be > responsible for any money which goes 'missing' > > Regards, > Carol - Deputy List Owner. =========================================== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com

I take it all back: my knowledge of Liverpool is zilch, it just seemed like too much of a coincidence for the Italians in London AND Liverpool to be living in Islington! Best wishes, Elaine > Don't want to start a list discussion on this, bur I'm the glutton for > punishment :-) who is waiting for the 1871 census fiches of Islington > Liverpool. Its definitely called the Islington district of Liverpool - not > only have I seen the fiches in the Lancashire Record Office, with that name > on the top, but the PRO confirmed it when I ordered them. Whilst I was > spending an hour or two looking through the first few fiches of Islington > Liverpool, I noted an awful lot of Italians on there - many of whom were > living in lodging houses @ 25 or so to a house. There were a lot of > musicians, too. Perhaps they were transient, who can say? I strongly > suspect that one of mine is there somewhere (I hope!!), hence my purchase of > the fiche. > A Williams > [email protected] > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi If you come across the name Vermiglio or Fiorese in your trawl through the 1871 fiches I'd love to know about them. Many thanks Simone

Don't want to start a list discussion on this, bur I'm the glutton for punishment :-) who is waiting for the 1871 census fiches of Islington Liverpool. Its definitely called the Islington district of Liverpool - not only have I seen the fiches in the Lancashire Record Office, with that name on the top, but the PRO confirmed it when I ordered them. Whilst I was spending an hour or two looking through the first few fiches of Islington Liverpool, I noted an awful lot of Italians on there - many of whom were living in lodging houses @ 25 or so to a house. There were a lot of musicians, too. Perhaps they were transient, who can say? I strongly suspect that one of mine is there somewhere (I hope!!), hence my purchase of the fiche. A Williams [email protected]

Hi all, Apologies for the recent posting that managed to sneak through to the list from Carlo and Davide Tognonire re:The "ITALIAN PROJECT 2002" Julie and I have discussed this posting after receiving a message from a worried list member who had dealings with this pair last year and is still $30 out of pocket. Please if you wish to contact this couple be very wary as we cannot be responsible for any money which goes 'missing' Regards, Carol - Deputy List Owner. (Tree Tops) FAMILY TREE & WE’LL MEET AGAIN - Free Query Service: SKY NEWS British TV Text Pages 267 & 268, http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/

Hi Rod, I think there's some misunderstanding: It's London's Little Italy which was in Clerkenwell, which is now part of the London Borough of Islington, though previously it was part of the Holborn registration district, and became part of Finsbury registration district when it was created around the end 19th/early 20th century. Terri Colpi only identifies areas as Little Italy in Manchester and London, though says "in Liverpool there was a Colony of Sicilini most of whom were importers of fruit and who lived near the docks.' This refers to around 1927. She also mentions a Fascio at Brunswick Street, Liverpool, in the 1930s, which suggests there may have been a concentration of Italians around there. She also mentions a strong Southern Italian, and particularly Sicilian, presence among Liverpool Italians. Also there was an Italian Consulate in Liverpool (and many people used Liverpool as the port to set off for America), though I think the community was never more than a few hundred strong. Best wishes, Elaine >> Can someone please remind me of the Email address for list admin please? >> Thanks >> A Williams >> [email protected] >> > > > > Hello, > > [email protected] > > By the way, in a previous post you said the 'Little Italy' in Liverpool was > in Islington. Do you have any more info about it? > > My grandparents, mother, aunts and uncles lived in and around Mill Street > and > Kimberely Street, Liverpool 8. > > Rod > [email protected] > Cassino: Melaragni, Persechini, Lanna/Lanni, D'Agostino. > Settesorelle di Vernasca: Dadomo. > Tomassio? > > > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Italian Research > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

> Can someone please remind me of the Email address for list admin please? > Thanks > A Williams > [email protected] > Hello, [email protected] By the way, in a previous post you said the 'Little Italy' in Liverpool was in Islington. Do you have any more info about it? My grandparents, mother, aunts and uncles lived in and around Mill Street and Kimberely Street, Liverpool 8. Rod [email protected] Cassino: Melaragni, Persechini, Lanna/Lanni, D'Agostino. Settesorelle di Vernasca: Dadomo. Tomassio?