Posted with permission of the List Admin All members of the Anglo Italian Family History Society who receive their Membership through email will have received your membership numbers AND 6 attachments in RTF. Please note. There will not normally be 6 attachments, but on this occasion there was the Welcome pack and a launch newsletter. The four newsletters, scheduled for July, October 2002, January and April 2003 will follow in the months stated. Should you have any queries, or problems opening the attachments please email me OFF list at [email protected] Many thanks Regards Julie Goucher [email protected] Anglers Rest Indexes http://freespace.virgin.net/ar.indexes Anglers Rest Home Page http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Index.htm C J http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections C J Genealogy http://www.dreamwater.net/genealogy/Index.htm FreeCEN Surrey 1891 http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/freecen.htm Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 One Name Study ORLANDO GOONS Registered --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.362 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 2002-07-May

I am seeking information on the life and ancestry of Baron Raphael FARINA-FIRRAO who married Margaret Robina Tatton HOBKIRK (widow of John HOBKIRK of Edinburgh and daughter of John LEISHMAN) 22 Mar 1878 in Naples and died before September 1903. There was issue Raphael Lewis FARINA-FIRRAO born 24 May 1877, Lucerne, CH, married Isabela Anna Baird SMITH 23 Sep 1903, Bere Regis, SSX, ENG. There was no issue of this marriage and Raphael Lewis died abt 1946, London. Anybody any suggestions of how I might obtain more information (preferably on line) on him and his family? Peter J. Stone [email protected] South Africa

Elizabeth are you sure it's Volente and not Valente. I have a Valente in my Family tree that was from near Milan. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Parker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:12 PM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] Dominico & Volente (& variants of both) > > I am researching the following names (and their variants): > > DOMINICO > Later Dominic(k) > > VOLENTE > > Places I am interested in with regard to these names are: > > Milan > Bridport (Dorset) > Chard (Somerset) > Greenock > London > Nottingham > > I have a lot of information I am happy to share. > > Liz. > > [email protected] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Anglo-Italian Mailing List Web Page > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

I am researching the following names (and their variants): DOMINICO Later Dominic(k) VOLENTE Places I am interested in with regard to these names are: Milan Bridport (Dorset) Chard (Somerset) Greenock London Nottingham I have a lot of information I am happy to share. Liz. [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Hello Lisa You'll need to weigh up the reliability of each piece of information you have about locations since I think you may have conflicting information. Is it likely that Pasquale's mother was still living where her son was born? > Pasquale was born in Casa Del Casino, Italy near Firenze in 1879 he > emigrated sometime before 1904 probably alone, with siblings > or with a friend. Casa del Casino could mean "the house at Casino" - what's the context of this pice of information? Could it be a mis-spelling for Cassino? > He was transported to a > hospital in Torino, Italy where when he felt able to he > attempted to go to his mother in Cassino per Atina. Prov. Di > Caserta, he did not make it becoming very unwell and died in > the Ospedale Militare Principale, Reparto infettino Letto > 60, Roma. Cassino per Atina could mean Cassino at/to/by/for/through Atina. Perhaps an Italian speaker can clarify this meaning? There are places called Cassino and Atina in Frosinone, Lazio. Check their location on Virgilio mappe (localita). http://mappe.virgilio.it/mappe/index.html You can also see Caserta is close to Frosinone. He may have needed to travel near Rome on his journey from Torino. Firenze is a long way away from Atina so you may have to consider other factors such as Pasquale's occupation and where his friends came from to confirm whether it is Cassino or Casino you are looking for. (There seem to be 2 Casinos in Firenze). He may also have moved north for work before leaving Italy for England. > I also > have a lack of understanding as to why Pasquale joined the > Italian army and why he was taken to Torino in the first > place. If Pasquale was born in Italy he would have been called up for Italian military service even although he lived in Britain. I understand Italians and their descendants remain Italian until they relinquish their nationality by naturalisation - even if they have lived for several generations in Britain. Fortunately Italy was on the same side in WW1 - in WW2 Italians were treated as enemy aliens in Britain. If you apply for Pasquale's military record you will probably have a definitive birthplace and other interesting information. I think this has been discussed before on this list and you may find it in the list archives (I haven't done this but have a book by Trafford Cole "Italian genealogical records" that outlines their availability and contents). Atina and Cassino are both mentioned in "The Italian Factor: the Italian Community in Great Britain" by Terri Colpi. I suggest you read it for background info about migration patterns that may help you confirm where Pasquale really came from. By the way, Ferrari of Soho is also mentioned in the book, as a firm that was established in 1901, having grown from the occupation of arrotini (knife grinders) into selling cutlery. Daphne Dashfield (Geradine) GHIRARDANI + 16 spelling variations

Posting this for a friend unable to do so. Looking for info concerning my father, Leland Wilson Williams, who worked in Philadelphia, PA on the trolley cars during the 1920s. Believed to be married to an ITALIAN LADY WHO WAS A LOCAL PERFORMER (BELIEVED A SINGER), and DAUGHTER WHO DIED AS A YOUND CHILD IN A TRAGIC FIRE IN OR AROUND PHILADELPHIA, PA. Would like any history relating to the fire, as well as genealogical info concerning wife and my half-sister (names, when and where born, dates of birth and deaths, date of burial and location, etc.) Would also like to know where one would find information of this nature, either on the internet or if one was to visit the Philadelphia, PA area. Thanks for whatever you may care to share. Please reply to [email protected]

17th May 2002 Dear Linda, Yours is effectively the same inquiry as I have been following up in the last week. I think you would get the information you need from the Catholic Central Library, Lancing Street, London NW1 1ND, www.catholic-library.org.uk e-mail [email protected] Actually, I am going there this morning to look up the register of the Sicilian Chapel, mentioned on this mailing list some time ago, which has entries going back to 1729. The old chapel was demolished, and its successor was a church in Holborn Kingsway which I actually visited about ten days ago, but I cannot remember whether its modern name was St Peters, or whether that was a neighbour. However, I believe that the Central Library hold transcripts of almost all the London Registers, and some have been published in earlier issues of the Catholic Record. Sincerely, Adrian Bivar [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Gale" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 2:04 PM Subject: [Anglo-Italian] St Peters Holborn > Hi Everyone > > Please can you help me? Can you tell me where I can access the registers for St Peters Italian Church in Holborn, London for the 19th century? Also were there any other churches where Italian immigrants or visitors would have been baptised or married and where are their archives held? > > With many thanks in advance. > > Linda >

Hi Everyone Please can you help me? Can you tell me where I can access the registers for St Peters Italian Church in Holborn, London for the 19th century? Also were there any other churches where Italian immigrants or visitors would have been baptised or married and where are their archives held? With many thanks in advance. Linda

Hi Everyone, My paternal grandmother was descended from Anglo-Italians. Her mother Sylvia Josephine Tortolani nee Ferrari later Micallef was born in Selema, Italy in 1883 she emigrated with her family possibly in 1894. Sylvia’s father was Battista Ferrari and her mother was Adele. Battista died sometime before 1937 as Adele died 31/03/1937 in London. Battista & Adele had three other children, Cesare (Charles), George and Anne. Charles married Chrissie and they had Charlie, Freddie & Chrissie. George married Maude and they had Lesley, Ann, Chrissie, Reginald & Cyril Anne married Cyril Sandiman (Oscar) and they had Reginald, Cyril, Leslie, Iris & Lenard Sylvia Josephine Ferrari married Pasquale Tortolani at St Peters Italian Church in Holborn, London in 1904. Pasquale was born in Casa Del Casino, Italy near Firenze in 1879 he emigrated sometime before 1904 probably alone, with siblings or with a friend. His mother was still in Italy. Pasquale during WW1 joined the Italian Army and was wounded in Gallipoli late Nov/early Dec 1916. He was transported to a hospital in Torino, Italy where when he felt able to he attempted to go to his mother in Cassino per Atina. Prov. Di Caserta, he did not make it becoming very unwell and died in the Ospedale Militare Principale, Reparto infettino Letto 60, Roma. On 07/01/1917. Pasquale’s wife and five young children were left in London, his youngest child born 09/02/1916. Pasquale & Sylvia had 6 children, Nildi (Hilda), Maria Lalia (Lillian Mary), Adele, Maria Sylvia Clarice (Clarice), Carlo George (Charlie) and Ivy Josephine. Hilda married Lenard Clark and they had Susan Lillian married John Clements and they had Clarice, Sylvia, John (my Dad) & Joseph Adele died young. Clarice married Harold King Charlie married Elsie and had Shirley & Sussana Ivy married Ray Park. When Pasquale died Sylvia was left alone with 5 children aged 10 and under. She remarried in 1920/21 to Joseph Micallef from Malta and had a further 2 children, Marie & Joseph. Joseph was killed in WW11. All name places are either verbal or written in letters from that time. I cannot find the towns or villages let alone the communes. Can anyone help me with the places. I also have a lack of understanding as to why Pasquale joined the Italian army and why he was taken to Torino in the first place. If anyone can help me with any of this please feel free to do so. Thanks muchly, Lisa Clements 11 Owen Place, Hamersley 6022 Western Australia

Hello, this was posted to another List that I belong to: >>>...just to make you aware of a publication which may be of interest to descendants of Italians who settled in Manchester, England. There is a publication entitled "MANCHESTERS LITTLE ITALY, Memories of the Italian Colony of Ancoats". by Antony Rea. Published in 1988 by Neil Richardson 88 Ringley Road, Stoneclough, Radcliffe, Manchester M26 9ET, England. This 43 page A4 size soft back publication is filled with photographs of faces, places, maps and history from 1835 to 1987.<<< Rod [email protected] Cassino: Melaragni, Persechini, Lanna/Lanni, D'Agostino. Settesorelle di Vernasca: Dadomo. Tomassio?

Dear List I am new to the list, and would like to request information from anyone who can help me track down the ancestors of my husbands' great grandfather Felix Secundo Maria CASTAGNOLA, born about 1830 in Genoa. He was apparently the youngest of four brothers who went to fight with Garibaldi, but he was considered too young and sent home to his family. He eventually met and married Mary Ann Kent Dowdeswell in Genoa. Their first two children Sofia and Alberto were born in Italy, in about 1876 and 1878, and the others Emma Louise born about 1880, Daisy born 2 Aug 1884, Celia and Florence were all born in England. Felix died in Basildon, Essex in about 1922. His father may have been Giuseppe Castagnola, because I found a list of people on the internet who had fought with Garibaldi and there was a Domenico whose father was Giuseppe. If the family story is correct, then this would probably have been a brother and father of Felix, whose name may well have been anglecised from a more Italian sounding one like Felice or something. Any help would be joyously received!! Merilyn Pedrick Mylor, South Australia

Hi everybody As I've only just joined this list I'd like to request help in finding more information about my grgrandfather below: Amilcare Domenico Andrea PERUTELLI born about 1854 in ? Carrara, Italy. His father was Domenico PERUTELLI He came to England in the early 1880's and married Margaret Roberts KIRBERTSON. Lived in Chelsea and had 3 daughters, Carlotta, Mariah and Angelina. Died in 1921 I am having difficulty finding his exact place of birth and I'm not having much luck with Italian records as I can't supply them with his birth comune. Can anyone help? Thanks, Jane

Hello everyone I am new to the list and currently researching the family name of Dellabella. So far I have Eleanor Dellabella, born 1854 married 1 Feb 1875 at Birkenhead, England to George Theobald Eleanor's father was John Dellabella (wife unknown) (no other information) Eleanor's grandfather was John Dellabella, born about 1788 in Italy buried 7 Sept 1863 at Preston, Lancashire, England I would be interested to hear from anyone who could help me find the exact place of birth for John Dellabella, born in Italy as shown above. Many thanks Doreen and Peter

The Web page for this mailing list is at http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm and has now been revamped. The Anglo Italian Family History Society Page (Still under construction) is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukaifhg/index.html The Taglines (those bits that appear at the end of the messages!) have also been changed. Regards Julie Goucher, List Owner Anglers Rest Indexes http://freespace.virgin.net/ar.indexes Anglers Rest Home Page http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Index.htm C J http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections C J Genealogy http://www.dreamwater.net/genealogy/Index.htm FreeCEN Surrey 1891 http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/freecen.htm Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 One Name Study ORLANDO GOONS Registered --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 2002-07-May

Hi Elaine Oh good OK, I will pass the word on for the monthly snippets newsletter. Cheers for now Eunice At 17:54 13/05/02 +0100, you wrote: >All publicity is extremely welcome Eunice, so if you think any of your >members might be interested please spread the word. > > >Thanks for thinking of us. > >Kind regards, > >Elaine Collins >Chairman AIFHS > > >I am a member of the Queensland Family History Society, and I was wondering >> if it might be a good idea to give them the information about the founding >> of the Anglo Italian FHS - can I do that? Or would you already have got >> it publicised through SOG ? >> They publish a quarterly newsletter and a monthly e-mail 'Snippets' >> >> Eunice in Queensland >> >> >> ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== >> Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History >> At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at >> http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm >>

All publicity is extremely welcome Eunice, so if you think any of your members might be interested please spread the word. Thanks for thinking of us. Kind regards, Elaine Collins Chairman AIFHS I am a member of the Queensland Family History Society, and I was wondering > if it might be a good idea to give them the information about the founding > of the Anglo Italian FHS - can I do that? Or would you already have got > it publicised through SOG ? > They publish a quarterly newsletter and a monthly e-mail 'Snippets' > > Eunice in Queensland > > > ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== > Inaugural Meeting of the Anglo-Italian Family History > At the SOG Fair at 3pm For the venue address look at > http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

>Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 11:46:46 +0100 From: "Carol, TreeTops" ><[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: ><[email protected]> Subject: [Anglo-Italian] >Fw: Faggetter Content-Type: text/plain; >charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: >7bit -----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: anglo-italian-l >[email protected] <[email protected]> Date: >11 May, 2002 21:38 Subject: Faggetter My grandfather was Henry >Faggetter. I am told Faggetter is an Italian name, but I am not >certain. Can you please advise me. If it is Italian then it may be >very helpful to join the Anglo Italian Society. >Many thanks Jean Smith Reaney. in 'A Dictionary of English Surnames' says: [begin quote] A derivative of Middle English, Old French fagot 'a bundle of wood', hence a maker or seller of faggots. Simon le faggotter 1279. [end quote] I don't know if that's quite what you hoped to find, but it could stop you following a false trail. Cheer, Roy

I am a member of the Queensland Family History Society, and I was wondering if it might be a good idea to give them the information about the founding of the Anglo Italian FHS - can I do that? Or would you already have got it publicised through SOG ? They publish a quarterly newsletter and a monthly e-mail 'Snippets' Eunice in Queensland

On the sheet HO 5/26 which has my gggrandfather's entry to Britain there are the following Italian -sounding names: Matteri, Carlo arrived Dover 11 Sept 1831 No 2412 Passport sent 2 Sept 1841 Martini , Guilio " " " " 2414 " " 1 June 1836 Mazetti, Pierre " " 19 " " 2467 Moderno, A.J. " London 22 " 2862 Migotti, Ferdinand " Dover 29 " 2531 19 May 1832 Migotti , Girardo Dover " " 2535 Moscati, Francisco London 6 Oct " 2984

I was interested to read your posting and to see that you make a reference to "passport sent" on a certain date. Do you or any other lister have any more infor,ation on what this means. Did the Italian State (or its predecessor) send the passports ? Or were these British Passports ? I am seeking passport information on my Italians who left Italy in 1879/80 and where I might obtain such information. Ken in Brussels -----Original Message----- From: Prof.Hassan Osman Abd_Al-Nour [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: lundi 13 mai 2002 7:19 To: [email protected] Subject: [Anglo-Italian] some immigrants from HO On the sheet HO 5/26 which has my gggrandfather's entry to Britain there are the following Italian -sounding names: Matteri, Carlo arrived Dover 11 Sept 1831 No 2412 Passport sent 2 Sept 1841 Martini , Guilio " " " " 2414 " " 1 June 1836 Mazetti, Pierre " " 19 " " 2467 Moderno, A.J. " London 22 " 2862 Migotti, Ferdinand " Dover 29 " 2531 19 May 1832 Migotti , Girardo Dover " " 2535 Moscati, Francisco London 6 Oct " 2984 ==== ANGLO-ITALIAN Mailing List ==== NEW One Name Study ORLANDO All material gratefully received [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237